Curse

Alleji · Dec 18, 2008, 06:37 AM // 06:37

Ban the word "goes", please.

No more "scrubbyname goes monk"

FoxBat · Dec 18, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Hints are that GW2 should let your avatar swap professions, at least in organized PvP if nowhere else. That alone should cut down on a ton of naming stupidity.

Unreal Havoc · Dec 18, 2008, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Wasn't it said that character names and guild names are carried over into GW2? If so then it's safe to say that the naming system will at least be two names.

Arduin · Dec 18, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Hints are that GW2 should let your avatar swap professions, at least in organized PvP if nowhere else. That alone should cut down on a ton of naming stupidity.

I'd love to switch my Scrubby Goes Monk to the Warrior profession, or Necromancer.

Unreal Havoc · Dec 18, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Hints are that GW2 should let your avatar swap professions, at least in organized PvP if nowhere else. That alone should cut down on a ton of naming stupidity.

I'm guessing you mean primary proffessions here?

That would make finding groups in PvE a dream.

Just create your avatar at the beginning then mold the proffession as needed, most likely unlocking them as you go along like you do in Guild Wars for secondary proffessions.

Would also rid any concerns of adding race benefits too if you can swap proffessions around like that. Everyone can keep up with current metas much more easily without having to roll new characters in different races all the time.

That would be really sweet if done properly and right without making it too easy to abuse.

Phineas · Dec 18, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

There will never be accents in character names because it makes things too complicated (try whispering someone with an accented name.)

Click on player, hold CTRL and press Enter.

acerbity · Dec 18, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by Alleji

Ban the word "goes", please.

No more "scrubbyname goes monk"

Soooooooo true.

MStarfire · Dec 18, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

I think it needs much stronger enforcement of names.
- No single word names
- No "X Name X" type names
- No more then one 1-letter word (No "N O O B" type names)
- No numbers (duh)
- Much larger internationalized word-list of no-go names (with added checking for 'work-arounds')

Hooray censorship.

I think we should be allowed to use whatever names we want as long as they're not outright offensive. GW1 is rated T and I'm assuming GW2 will be as well. Language heard and used by teens nowadays is far worse than someone naming their Monk "Harry Butts". You need to lighten up. Also, what do you have against "X Name X" type names? I agree that they're stupid and that people who use them are probably stupid, but that doesn't mean we need a system to suppress them. The only cure is education. Same goes with 1-letter word names, like "A S S H A T". Which is what you are.

What I think we should have, instead of censorship (you're a fascist, btw), is SPELL CHECK. I could care less what you name your character, as long as I don't have to see another Dervish with "sythe" in his name or some other moronic misspelling. The worst part is when you point out their mistake and they respond with "ya i kno scythe waz taken". So, not only are they unoriginal, they choose to intentionally look stupid. THIS is what needs to be prohibited. +1 vote for spellcheck.

I agree with no numbers. We're bound to get crap like Assassin69696969, which is more of a username than a character name.

I would like to see punctuation being allowed, but maybe with a limit of two punctuations per character name. Then we avoid stuff like "`'`,.`.,`Assasin Deth`,.`.,`'`", but we're allowed the occasional apostrophe (because seeing shit like "Deaths Servant" really pisses me off...proper grammar please) and we can mimic the super-rad Djinn boss conventions like Leilon, Tranquil Water.

So to recap (in case you're too lazy to read):

MirkoTeran is a fascist who wants to suppress your names into his image of what's acceptable,
Limited punctuation yes,
Numbers no,
Less censorship in bawdy names, and
X Name X is perfectly okay, provided
A S S H A T is also okay and you're willing to be publicly humiliated because you're probably stupid, but it's your choice. Just like smoking.

Koudelka · Dec 18, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by MStarfire

Hooray censorship.

I think we should be allowed to use whatever names we want as long as they're not outright offensive. GW1 is rated T and I'm assuming GW2 will be as well. Language heard and used by teens nowadays is far worse than someone naming their Monk "Harry Butts". You need to lighten up. Also, what do you have against "X Name X" type names? I agree that they're stupid and that people who use them are probably stupid, but that doesn't mean we need a system to suppress them. The only cure is education. Same goes with 1-letter word names, like "A S S H A T". Which is what you are.

What I think we should have, instead of censorship (you're a fascist, btw), is SPELL CHECK. I could care less what you name your character, as long as I don't have to see another Dervish with "sythe" in his name or some other moronic misspelling. The worst part is when you point out their mistake and they respond with "ya i kno scythe waz taken". So, not only are they unoriginal, they choose to intentionally look stupid. THIS is what needs to be prohibited. +1 vote for spellcheck.

I agree with no numbers. We're bound to get crap like Assassin69696969, which is more of a username than a character name.

I would like to see punctuation being allowed, but maybe with a limit of two punctuations per character name. Then we avoid stuff like "`'`,.`.,`Assasin Deth`,.`.,`'`", but we're allowed the occasional apostrophe (because seeing shit like "Deaths Servant" really pisses me off...proper grammar please) and we can mimic the super-rad Djinn boss conventions like Leilon, Tranquil Water.

So to recap (in case you're too lazy to read):

MirkoTeran is a fascist who wants to suppress your names into his image of what's acceptable,
Limited punctuation yes,
Numbers no,
Less censorship in bawdy names, and
X Name X is perfectly okay, provided
A S S H A T is also okay and you're willing to be publicly humiliated because you're probably stupid, but it's your choice. Just like smoking.

Hypocritical, aren't we?

MStarfire · Dec 18, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by Koudelka

Hypocritical, aren't we?

Hey, you noticed. Thanks.

Let me clarify, or rather, expand.

How about instead of just the type of spell check that prohibits incorrect spellings of common words (because we need to allow the fantasy shit, or my ritualist Kirenne would never get through), we have a system that looks for these misspellings. When you submit your character name, something will come up that says "GW2 has found some minor mistakes in your character name. Are you sure you want to proceed with 'Asasssin Ov Deth'?"

And I said that, while stupid, smoking is entirely your choice and I've got no right to tell you otherwise. Learn to read.

Also I think you're calling me a fascist for advocating more education so we have fewer people looking like idiots. Honey, if that makes me a fascist, then seig heil.

Lady Lozza · Dec 18, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Firstly on accents:
Accents are nice to have.
Accents are used by Europeans.
Accents are possible to do on a keyboard without needing to insert symbol.
Accents are possible to do with a US keyboard setting, US International.
Accents MAY confused US players. But I dare say that accents will be used mainly by EU players and those who know how to use them. If you don't want to change your keyboard to US International, use the click select whisper method.

Censorship:
Some of the sensorship shown in GW(1) has been haphazard and the same standards have not been applied across the board. They need to standardise this. For example, sensoring "Dick" is stupid in the context of an actual name. "Dick" is actually short for Richard. If they want to censor "Dick" they should also sensor "John", "Emma", "Mabel" and a host of other names used to describe rude and illegal things.

Numbers:
No. Never.

Spell Check:
While good in theory can be extremely problematic. My monk is called Rael. No it is not a misspelling of Real, it is supposed to be Rael (it's actually supposed to have an accent btw). Rael isn't even a made up name, it is an eastern EU version of Rachael. Players are so dense they don't get this, what makes you think a spell check would? Luned, would possibly turn up lunar, but once again this is an actual name.

Some times mis-spellings are intentional. My necro's last name is Daeth. Completely intentional. May look stupid to some, but taken in context of a real name who is to say what looks stupid?

Use of only real names:
Once again, good in theory but problematic. Unfortunately the general reaction to names like Rael ingame. "Rael is a stupid name" "It's "R-E-A-L"" "You can't spell". Trying to explain that Rael IS a name in another part of the world is impossible. I fear that any reference Anet would take would be very "US" centric. Sabine, Heloise, Arianna, Rael, Luned, all real names never seen in the US.

This also rules out "made up names" which look perfectly ok. Ililya, Ashael, Elafaine. People like to get creative with names. There is nothing wrong with this.

1 name Verses 2 names:
I am in favour of multi-word names with punctuation. For a very long time thousands of years, people have been defined either by their profession or by their family. I firmly believe that a minimum of 2 names should be used to cover the possibility of someone calling their character say "Tim", and everyone else having to use "Tim Huntmaster", "Tim Firestorm", "I Tim I", etc. One name will not remove the "I Tim I" or the "X Tim X" names so there is no advantage in having it. Two names forces the character name pool to be full of variety, and it forces players to get a little creative (something I view as a good thing).

I like the idea of limited (correct) use of puntuation to cover stuff like the NF boss names or the example given above of Death's Servant. But I wonder who is going to use it correctly. I have seen far too many examples on guru of the apostrophe being used in plurals that it makes me claw my eyes out.

In summary:
Keep the 2 name (minimum) convention.
Allow accents.
Keep the no numbers convention.
Tighten and consolodate any sensorship rules, it needs to be consistant!

Ryssul Sylverhart · Dec 19, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30

The only thing that really bugs me about Guild Wars naming now is the fact that you ware forced to have articles/prepositions capitalized in your name. I know, laugh at me, but as a Grammar Nazi, I would always find it annoying to find people named Leo The Monk or Mary Of Ascalon because there was absolutely no way to un-capitalize the "the" or "of". And it also peeved me that bosses had the correct grammar, but the players themselves couldn't have this privilege. Please, in the next game, let us be able to fix this!

Don't really mind about accents or all of that. I do hope that we are able to have single-worded names if we so wish. Sometimes I really hated being forced to give my characters titles or last names, especially when I felt they didn't need any.

Quaker · Dec 19, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10

I'm in favor of:

- the use of single-word names (but not only single-word names)
- the limited use of some punctuation. For example, "Death's Mate" or "Olivia Newton-John".
- slightly longer max. I once wanted to use a surname of "of the Woods" on some characters, but I had to shorten it to only "Of Woods" because most were too long.
- the ability to not Capitalize a word. So that "Of Woods" could be "of Woods". Yes, some people would just use "ownz" or whatever, but that's no worse than "XX Leet Guy XX"

I'm not in favor of:
- numbers. I can't see a reason to want numbers and it just leads to names like "Ownz4578", which isn't really any worse that "XX Ownz XX", but why make it worse?
- more than one single-letter name. So "Ownz a Lott" would be ok, but not "O W N Z"
- Spell check. I don't like it when someone simply mispells a name so they can use it, but that's better than forcing people to be un-creative with their naming. For example, I made up the name "Malika" for my assassin - what would spell check do to that? (p.s. it turns out that "Malika" may be a real name, but I'd never heard of it before.

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I'm undecided about:
- accents. I can see where it would be nice, particularly for Europeans, but can lead to confusion. Especially considering the miss-uses that would arise. Perhaps if the ability to copy & paste names was more widely known and/or made easier, it would be ok. And, it's not any different than the Asian letters you run into now.