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RazmO- · Dec 20, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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PvPers don't have to be forced to play PvE if they want a "cool" char.

And PvE players dont have to be forced to play PvP if they want a "cool" emote.

credit · Dec 20, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by Zydonis

You obviously missed the entire point. So I'll fix it for you.

When you dipshit Pvp'ers can earn yourselves Chaos Gloves by gathering Ectos for months, then you should have Chaos Gloves. Until then, keep PvPing.

You obviously missed the entire point. So I'll fix it for you.

It's about PvP characters having equal opportunity to get PvE skins, not about a PvP player being able to afford chaos gloves. Someone with 200rps to use on Chaos Gloves could more than likely easily afford to get them on their PvE character.

The fact it takes you months to earn Chaos Gloves is funny though.

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Originally Posted by upier

So I am guessing the Gwen crap is SO hard to earn that the good old talented PvP folk couldn't earn it and they needed a disability ramp to get it?
Yikes!

Since when was doing well in AT/MAT a disability ramp? You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
Yikes!

Unreal Havoc · Dec 20, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

You missed the point of my statement.

Current PvP rewards as they stand are abysmal. This offers some incentive.

If you need incentive to PvP then you probably shouldn't be playing PvP.

Arkantos · Dec 20, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Took them long enough.

Better late than never though.

Nightow · Dec 20, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42

They should allow pve characters to have access to pvp only skins via rp or some other method.

These beauts comes to mind. (Yes the second one is avail. as a green but come on...)

Firebaall · Dec 20, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46

That's ok.

With this same update, gold trim capes and "/rank" emotes are dropping from dungeon chests in GW:EN.

(or not.... the pvp qqers would be deafening).

I'm fine with letting them earn the gloves. Just make them 400 points, to keep the value on par with the pve achievement.

credit · Dec 20, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by Firebaall

I'm fine with letting them earn the gloves. Just make them 400 points, to keep the value on par with the pve achievement.

This is what annoys me. If anything, the value of earning them in PvP is higher than earning it in PvE.

To get enough rps you actually have to do well in AT/MAT/preds/etc to get enough RPs. I'm not sure about you, but I think doing well in those is much more difficult than perma sinning in UW.

sup

Picuso · Dec 20, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by RazmO-

And PvE players dont have to be forced to play PvP if they want a "cool" emote.

Oh... so /emote is "cool".

Let PvPers have something "exclusive". I don't play PvP, but I don't want that "ugly" emote neither.

IMHO, it's fine now.

Quaker · Dec 20, 2008, 08:51 PM // 20:51

I think they just don't want the PvPers tying up there servers trying to farm ectos for those god-awful looking and common-as-dirt Chaos Gloves, now that everyone and his dog has them.

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Originally Posted by I Is Special

Ectos=5k each
PvE chaos gloves =400k

You sure are special - special Ed. 5k x 75extos = 375k

Earth · Dec 20, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52

PvP takes more skill than PvE so it's only fair to give them something exclusive.

That is all.

Snow Bunny · Dec 20, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc

If they're so skilled then they should have no problems farming the ecto to earn them the same way everyone else does.

That takes time, not skill.

Learn the difference.

This is a reward for skill.

Shadowmoon · Dec 20, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

RPs are easy to get, the 200 can be easily gained from 2 months of MaT predictions. It is a pvp disablity ramp.
Now i wondering about emerald blade, BDS, frog scepters, est...
These were the pve high end market, and if Anet added these skins to the rewards, I would be very pissed. Both sides should have exclusive content. Of course all the pvp bias i see here on guru seem to be shining clear.

The Arching Healer · Dec 20, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

As pvper and pve'e, I say this is one of the best updates Anet ever done. Now I don't have to make extra pve characters to get that bandana or glasses etc. (not that I would but :P...)

Earth · Dec 20, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Actually I just realized something: There is no exclusive content anymore.

lutz · Dec 20, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

RPs are easy to get, the 200 can be easily gained from 2 months of MaT predictions. It is a pvp disablity ramp.
Now i wondering about emerald blade, BDS, frog scepters, est...
These were the pve high end market, and if Anet added these skins to the rewards, I would be very pissed. Both sides should have exclusive content. Of course all the pvp bias i see here on guru seem to be shining clear.

Actually, it doesn't take just 200, it takes 50 items in the previous tier before you can unlock the next tier. So, it's 50 items * 20 reward points/item, so 1,000 reward points before you can even consider getting Chaos Gloves. This is even more for weapons, which have 3 tiers, which is 10 each, then 30 each, so you have to spend 2,000 reward points before even considering Exotic weapons like the Bone Dragon Staff.

By the way, with the rate retards are posting on here, saying "PvP should be available to PvEers", I'm kind of glad now that most suggestions are ignored by ArenaNet because I've realized the majority of suggestions are RETARDED.

Arduin · Dec 20, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31

Glad to see more people are happy with their glowy hands.

DarkNecrid · Dec 20, 2008, 10:15 PM // 22:15

I'd like to point out that this is something Andrew Patrick said has been in testing and coming since like, January, of this year.

Nice to see it's finally in-game, although some of the headgear (glasses, notably), seem hella bugged.

Gun Pierson · Dec 20, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Ok, I'm happy for you PvP guys, I even PvP once in a while too. Now can we get some sportmanship back? I don't want a tiger or any other of the pvp emotes, but I would like to have a new emote set for the GWAMM title track. I don't feel satisfied with the zaishen emotes because it's not a strict pve or pvp title.

It would be nice to have a few PvE emotes and they don't even have to be as big or shiny as the pvp ones. Just something, to increase the fun factor.

lutz · Dec 20, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by upier

Disable PvE bunnies in PvP places.
I mean you can't really enter Ran Musu Gardens on your PvP guy to show how superior you are with your PvP chaos gloves - so it would only be fair to not allow PvE emotes in PvP places to not confuse people.
Other then that - I really don't see why this would be a problem.

Btw - getting a bunny is also possible though time.
You don't really need to get good enough to beat the best teams. You just need to keep beating the first team and you get 1 fame. Sure, it will take forever to get anywhere - but that's the point of getting there through time.

Plus, considering you still get fame even for beating insanely crappy teams - you can also just piggyback your way to the bunny. Just have some good players that are willing to play with a guy that is just going to play a corpse most of the time. I am pretty sure one could buy them with all the ectos one can farm.

So if it's not just a skill thing - why keep it away from PvE guys?

Because emotes were never intended to be for PvE characters. PvE characters were always intended to be used for PvP.

See, here's the chain of events that ArenaNet originally had in mind:

Make a PvE character -> Play through PvE campaigns -> Discover PvP -> Go to PvP -> Play in PvP with PvE character, get rank, emotes, guild -> Begin making new PvE characters for PvP to look cooler, make PvP characters

All they are doing is making that last step easier. What you're suggesting is an entire restructuring of the system.

The Meth · Dec 20, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Great, now I get to see more people that look retarded with the glowing hands. Whoever designed those gloves should be shot. I mean, there is some bad looking armor in guild wars, but the ecto gloves are the first one that could potentially cause a seizure for people looking at them.