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MirkoTeran · Dec 10, 2008, 02:09 PM // 14:09

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Originally Posted by Jongo River

If powertraders had any commitment to the game, they wouldn't be powertrading. WTS/WTB all day long is not playing GW!

And how do you explain that? Not everyone plays the game the same way as you might.

Edit: To me playing the game is doing something you enjoy. Either it be killing 9001 raptors, running naked around GH or filling trade chat in Spamadan.

Tullzinski · Dec 10, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by Fates Monk

You're talking out of your ass. You, and everyone else that thinks they know the drop rate. A-net has never published any drop rates.

Whatever the drop rate is does not matter, people will hit those quests no matter what the drop rate is. Sorry that you seem so offended by everyone and what they choose to think. I think the rate is now 1:1,000,000,000,000

Spiritz · Dec 10, 2008, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Wait 1 Min !!!!!
Ty now i have your attention - the chest the bear can drop from - where exactly is it as some posts say umbrals grotto ( secret lair dungeon ) but others and wiki states the wintersday chest from the portal wraith quest - The Strength of Snow or Straight to the Heart.

Now if i go by posts on here then a load of ppl are farming secret lair for bear when its not even there .
For the sake of the community and ppls sanity can someone please verify the exact location .

ty for reading

HawkofStorms · Dec 10, 2008, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by auch

your wrong. ive even seen more then 3 of those in game

and all you ppl whining about the low drop rate, if it had a high drop rate more would drop = lower price and you wouldn't want it as much.

Or you just saw the same couple of minipets being powertraded around to different people....

duh

Everybody please stop lying about the drop rate from last year claiming "OMG there was 200 polar bears last year, people just didn't report it to guru noobs" crap. You are all just lying trying to influence the prices. New items in GW, after they get added, get found incrediablly quickly, and appear on guru and the wiki within hours. The fact that the polar bear did not get found for so long (a couple weeks into wintersday, even after 1000s of people had done those quests), and the fact that for a long time only 1 was confirmed to exist via Witchblade (for so long that many people, even Galie, claimed it must be a hoax) is strong evidence to suggest that it really is that rare and only a very small number of them droped.

Tullzinski · Dec 10, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

Wait 1 Min !!!!!
Ty now i have your attention - the chest the bear can drop from - where exactly is it as some posts say umbrals grotto ( secret lair dungeon ) but others and wiki states the wintersday chest from the portal wraith quest - The Strength of Snow or Straight to the Heart.

Now if i go by posts on here then a load of ppl are farming secret lair for bear when its not even there .
For the sake of the community and ppls sanity can someone please verify the exact location .

ty for reading

last year:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Wintersday_2007#Quests

Quests from the Rift Warden (Accessed at both Lions Arch and Kamadan)

In Grenth's Defense
You're a Mean One, Mr. Grenth
Straight to the Heart - Eye of the North required (mini)
The Strength of Snow - Eye of the North required (mini)

And this:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
There are two kinds of chests:

The Wintersday Chest -- This is the chest that is available only through two special Wintersday quests.

The Chest of Wintersday Past -- This is the chest that stands at all times at the end of the Secret Lair of the Snowmen quest.

The only chest that will provide the Miniature Polar Bear is the Wintersday Chest, and that will be gone very soon, likely sometime tonight. Will it return during Wintersday 2008? That's pretty likely.

_Todeshand_ · Dec 10, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

You guys are sick. There are 2 possibilities:

1.) No new Polar Bears
2.) New Polar Bears

Case 1:

Nobody has a Polar Bear, nobody cares

Case 2 (what actually happened):

Some guys get a Polar Bear and can be happy. Some don't, so why do they care (see Case 1)? You should not complain about the situation as it is, because Case 1 would have been worse.

Your Problem:

You're afraid that someone else might get the bear. Jealousy for virtual items. Please remember: GW is a game.

thx

patrona · Dec 10, 2008, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by _Todeshand_

You're afraid that someone else might get the bear. Jealousy for virtual items.

QFT....

and 1-2 more bears aren't affecting the economy...

Jongo River · Dec 10, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34

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Originally Posted by _Todeshand_

Your Problem:

You're afraid that someone else might get the bear. Jealousy for virtual items. Please remember: GW is a game.

Oh, come one, you can do better than that! It's not jealousy, it's communism! We just want everybody to be equal.

Anyway - Case 3:

I get the bear and treat you all to a youtube vid of it getting binned. Joy!

Bug John · Dec 10, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by _Todeshand_

Your Problem:

You're afraid that someone else might get the bear. Jealousy for virtual items. Please remember: GW is a game.

you made my day...

internet psychiatrists wannabes make me laugh

I'm just jealous, thanks for your brilliant analysis, I really feel better now

the problem is not other players getting minipets, the problem is that the droprate is so ridiculously low that this item will only affect 0.000001% of gw community, so, what was the point of creating it ?

_Todeshand_ · Dec 10, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

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Originally Posted by Bug John

the problem is not other players getting minipets, the problem is that the droprate is so ridiculously low that this item will only affect 0.000001% of gw community, so, what was the point of creating it ?

You didn't create it. So why do you complain that creating it was nonsense? Only 0.000001% of People drive a Ferrari, so, what's the point of creating them?

To give rich guys something that makes them feel special. So - why do you complain about them getting their special cookie?

nkuvu · Dec 10, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by auch

and all you ppl whining about the low drop rate, if it had a high drop rate more would drop = lower price and you wouldn't want it as much.

Just like I hate my mini-pigs. Right.

Except that I don't hate my mini pigs. I actually enjoy them quite a bit. They're fun. Oh wait, is that because they're worth lots and lots of money? Hardly. Is it because no one else has them? No. Gee... maybe there's some sort of enjoyment for things in the game that do not revolve around virtual gold... nah. That's just crazy talk.

Oh, and for those comparing a Ferrari to the chance of a minipet... you're making a horrid comparison. All else being equal (which it never is in the real world, of course), if you work long enough, you'll be able to afford a Ferrari. There's no such guarantee for a mini polar bear. You could do the Wintersday quest all throughout Wintersday and get no mini polar bear. Someone else could come along and do the quest once and get the mini. If you want to compare a real world reward like a Ferrari to an in game item, at least compare it to something like Obsidian armor. If you farm long enough in game you'll be able to afford Obsidian armor, no "luck" involved (although some luck will reduce the time you need to farm).

zwei2stein · Dec 10, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Mini pigs are nice thing to bring up.

I mean, they were just perfect - overabundant, sure, but it didn't really bother anyone. Gift you could hand out to people which would bring smile on face of pretty much every person with carebearish tendencies. They didn't enarge anyone e-peen, true, but that should not be point of events.

Then anet "fixed" it and made followup pets much, much rarer and much more e-peen worthy ... or did they?

I guess they learned their lesson and will not risk more than dozen bear drops, because gold minipets and minipet economy is serious business.

I can sooo imagine big "Mini Bear Drops" counter LCD in anet office with some caffeine-boosted dev staring at it and holding his finger on emergency server shutdown button ready to press it should counter be closing to some dangerously high number. Like 10.

Tullzinski · Dec 10, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by Jongo River

Oh, come one, you can do better than that! It's not jealousy, it's communism! We just want everybody to be equal.

Polar bear utopia we can all share the polar bears! Instead of a new hat I think everyone should get a polar bear! Or better yet a polar bear hat!!!!

mcsumo · Dec 10, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

This is what infuriates me most about Anet. Not the existence of the pet itself, but the way you get it. They say they want to encourage people to play the game more, lessen grind etc etc. Then come up with this fkn stupid idea.

Witchblade seems very nice, dedicated player and all that. But equally some total knob who had the game for 5 mins and just spammed all chat with 'how rubbish GW is and WoW is much better' could have got that lucky drop.

Plus now wintersday won't be a fun event with people chatting in town, taking prezzies to kids and helping with quests etc. People won't want to waste a second of their farming time.

GG anet. Surely it can't be that hard, to come up with ways to actually reward people, for teaming up with real players and playing the game. Instead of this constant supply of 'the latest cool item' which just encourages more farming grind/builds and discourages new players.

Gli · Dec 10, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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Originally Posted by _Todeshand_

You didn't create it. So why do you complain that creating it was nonsense? Only 0.000001% of People drive a Ferrari, so, what's the point of creating them?

You may not be aware of this, so I'll clue you in: people pay significant amounts of money for Ferrari's. That's why Ferrari makes cars: to make money.

So, how exactly does this relate to the rarity of these mini-bears? Because I don't see it. Are you suggesting that people pay ANet significant amounts of money to receive rare minipets? Because that's the only way your fabulous Ferrari anology would work.

Smurf Minions · Dec 10, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13

why do people even care, its just luxury anyway.

oh and don't say it was content you paid for, they made it after the release...

zwei2stein · Dec 10, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by Tullzinski

Polar bear utopia we can all share the polar bears! Instead of a new hat I think everyone should get a polar bear! Or better yet a polar bear hat!!!!

tmakinen · Dec 10, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by Smurf Minions

why do people even care

Because the way it was implemented is pure evil. Wintersday should be an event where people have fun together in a grindless, co-operative role playing game. The MPB is a reward for those who do not co-operate (because it's a forced solo mission) and the only way to increase your chances from astronomical to merely ludicrous is to get a serious fit of OCD for the duration of the entire event.

It's like a jolly competition where company X raises the festive spirit of their employees by announcing that everybody who dumps their family and works 24/7 through the season will get a go at the grand prize of one million dollars. Participation completely voluntary ...

I don't care about the damned mini, I'm questioning the sanity of the developer who thought that it was a great addition to the game.

Tullzinski · Dec 10, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

ROFLMAO!!!! That is now my desktop background! Too Funny!!!

maraxusofk · Dec 10, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by tmakinen

I don't care about the damned mini, I'm questioning the sanity of the developer who thought that it was a great addition to the game.

anet did not HAVE to add the minipet to the game. they thought it would be a cool lil random extra to add to the chest. lil did they know the gw community is a childish bunch of whiners who think everything should be easily gotten, which for some reason wasnt evident when a metric ton of ppl clamored for inscriptions.

the community, rather than seeing as a nice lil bonus to the chest whos main farm is for holiday items, now thinks the only purpose of the quest chest is to farm for the mini.