Curse

Abedeus · Dec 19, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by Jebus

Did you really just say that? Wow.

I know, I've heard it too. Don't worry, those people are far away, locked in their cubics.

baltazar knight · Dec 19, 2008, 03:21 PM // 15:21

so say i'm from guild X which is inactive and a friend is in an active guild guild Y(5or so in the team of same guild)

is it possible that he guests me to his gh and i can join his group ?

p.s. i am more then 14 days in the guild.

Jebus · Dec 19, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Oh well, I'd like it more if it was more a TA/HA style of Snowball battles, but meh

Brak · Dec 19, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by baltazar knight

so say i'm from guild X which is inactive and a friend is in an active guild guild Y(5or so in the team of same guild)

is it possible that he guests me to his gh and i can join his group ?

p.s. i am more then 14 days in the guild.

Yes, the guild only needs 4 14-day members and the other 4 can be guild memeber that haven't been on for 14 days or guests(if you guest for another guild it doesn't matter how long you've been in your guild). So if you are in a new guild you can always guest for another guild and my guess is there will be plenty of guilds looking for guests so their guild can have enough people to participate.

legendary4321 · Dec 19, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40

im just spitballin here but isn't snowball fights 4v4?

baltazar knight · Dec 19, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by Brak

Yes, the guild only needs 4 14-day members and the other 4 can be guild memeber that haven't been on for 14 days or guests(if you guest for another guild it doesn't matter how long you've been in your guild). So if you are in a new guild you can always guest for another guild and my guess is there will be plenty of guilds looking for guests so their guild can have enough people to participate.

ah thank you

btw nice avatar lol

Martin Alvito · Dec 19, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

The requirements for the Snowball ATS are the same as for the regular ATS. You need to be in a guild. You need to be in a guild for at least 14 days. You are required to have at least 4 guild members. There is no entry fee. The Snowball tournaments will play like monthly tournaments.

It's fine to decide not to rework the code. It's not OK to fail to inform everyone of the situation 14 days prior to the start of the event so that they can react to these conditions.

No one even knew about the existence of these ATs until seven days ago. Even if players anticipated the problem and efficiently reorganized their guild membership immediately in response to the announcement, they won't be able to field their preferred 8v8 team for a week. Those that did not won't be able to field that team until three days prior to the event's end.

All of this could have been averted by making the announcement a week earlier and letting everyone know about the 14 day rule then. Foresight is key to good customer service, no?

Regina Buenaobra · Dec 19, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

By the time the Live Team had investigated and found out that it would not be a quick, easy, or uncomplicated fix to remove the ATS requirements for the Snowball ATS, it was already past the 14-day mark. They sincerely apologize for this disappointment.

Rocky Raccoon · Dec 19, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Apparently there is nothing else to do for Wintersday, except the Snowball ATs. If it wasn't this to complain about it would be something else.

garethporlest18 · Dec 19, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by Jebus

Did you really just say that? Wow.

Yeah. What's wrong with it? Real life comes before gaming, I know this. But I don't want Anet to cater to me because of it, it's not their problem I'm busy in real life, so they shouldn't set up their game to cater to me. Just like they shouldn't set it up to cater to you. If you want to game and partake in real life (I hope you rather do the latter), then you gotta come face to face with the unfairness and consequences of it all.

Anet does a pretty good job of catering to those who can only play casually already.

Mr. Undisclosed · Dec 19, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

They sincerely apologize for this disappointment.

Good enough for me, thank you.

sunec · Dec 19, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Needs more QQ.

Anet has decided to leave my guild tab blank, make me unable to guest and even join a guild. And now they even stopped responding to my support ticket 3 days ago.

GG Anet, it's nothing but changing a few 14's to 1's or 0's whatever you like, and doing a quick compile and maybe spending a few minutes testing on your internal servers - unless you have designed your code in the worst possible way ever.

The guild requirement of 4 members seems fine though.

Peace

Buterfly · Dec 19, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

For those of you who say to a player that is not a 14 day member yet bc theyve just left a guild, or is not currently a member of a guild, that you would say that it is the player's own fault... It's pretty silly that you would somehow blame them or some how seem to frown upon ppl who have not yet been able to find a good guild that they are happy in or that they may just be happier without being in a guild. Maybe youre just lucky enough that you landed in a guild that you would feel loyal enough to stay in. I know a few ppl who have been in the same guild for most of gw, and I know ppl who have been in dozens or make a new guild every other week lol. They should not be punished for that.

Anyways. Great Gwen quests ! Pretty Jingle Bear !

Skyy High · Dec 20, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Well, that's a real shame. I was really looking forward to the Snowball ATS, and now I won't be participating since my guild reccently split up.

Really, this is just silly. Partcipation in a HOLIDAY themed event where you throw snowballs at other players should not be taken too seriously. Any raging responses are a bit unnecessary.

On the other hand... at the same time, A.net shouldn't have droped the ball on this. This had huge potential to be very popular and a lot of fun. Instead, 90% of the GW player base (ie, those who don't read the forums or the wikis) will probablly not even know about this feature's existance. All previous holiday events and quests were open to everybody (ie, even level 10s could partcipate in most of the holiday quests from the past). Nothing was ever hard or exclusive. It should be open to everybody in the spirit of the season.

And saying it would be too much work for programmers... eh, I'd rather have people do something well or not at all. Half-assing the job by not getting rid of those restrictions (which really, why should they be hard coded into the programming in the first place?) is kinda frustrating and unprofessional.

There are huge numbers of other events, including a ton of new stuff this year. That 90% of the GW fanbase that won't even know about the ATS will obviously not care that they're missing it. Furthermore, people who aren't in a stable guild would have basically no shot at this anyway, and if you have no shot at winning you may as well be playing in the random snowball arena. Just because it's a holiday-themed event, there can't be anything competitive about it? One event, one small event that is exactly the same as the casual stuff most players play in (and fail miserably, if the past hour of play time is any indication), and people are complaining that everything about Wintersday should be accessible to everyone.

Put it this way: even if there were absolutely no restrictions on this AT, how many players without a guild would join? How many of those players have friends who are in a guild which they'd be able to guest with? How many of these hodge-podge groups would get past the first round or two?

tenetke · Dec 20, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by garethporlest18

Yeah. What's wrong with it? Real life comes before gaming, I know this.

Honestly not sure if you do.

Vitues · Dec 20, 2008, 02:28 AM // 02:28

Since they made it operate like a Monthly AT, that screws so many players over. Due to that many people had left there guilds for the champ weekend earlier. So, this, pretty much puts a lot of plays out of snowball at's.

It was a good idea for the snowball AT's, but, you didnt think it through to the end. Which sucks, becuase so far it seemed that everything you have been doing has been great such as the decorations.

Oh well, another screw up for a once in a year event.

Grand Theft Ecto · Dec 20, 2008, 02:35 AM // 02:35

Cool stuff, cheers for the effort of making it happen.

Is it gonna be 16 ppl on a 4v4 map though?

jiggles · Dec 20, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

Remove the cripple and it will be less of a joke. 8 Counts of it. ohwowowowowowowowowowowowwowowowowowowowoowowow

snaek · Dec 20, 2008, 03:30 AM // 03:30

8 rits jackfrost spiritway gogogo

50dmg x 8 = 400dps lawl

Skyy High · Dec 20, 2008, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Mesmers have an interrupt, and eles have a second snare. I'm not sure if a full rit team is the best idea.

I'd rofl if a guild pulled off a r-spike-esque thing with one para using the chant to make snowballs near-undodgeable. 3, 2, 1, snowballs to the face.