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Div · Jan 18, 2009, 10:13 PM // 22:13

So, I'm curious as to how long it takes people to achieve that title. I find it hilarious how bad players point to a high title and immediately think it's impossible to achieve unless you never leave your house (see other thread on r7 koabd title).

I did some rough estimates on how long a player who actually knows what they're doing for the most part (aka not taking 30 times to beat thunderhead keep like most QQers who complain about the title being impossible). This time is greatly reduced if you already have some missions mastered.

Protector/Guardian (7) - 58 missions x 2 x 30 to 45 min = 58 to 87 hours
Vanquisher (4) - 121 zones x 45 to 75 min = 91 to 151 hours
Skill Hunter (4) - free (with vanquishing)
Grandmaster Cartographer (4) - free (with vanquishing)
Master of the north (1) - 18 dungeons x 2 x 1 to 1.5 hour + 15 zones x 45 to 75 min = 47 to 73 hours
Reputation tracks (6) - 6 tracks x 2 to 3 additional hours on top of vanq = 12 to 18 hours
Sweet/Party (2) - just money
Drunkard (1) - money + 10000 points at 720 points/hour = 14 hours (or 167 hours during gameplay, which works out to be no time)
Survivor (1) - free (don't suck)

Total - 208 to 343 hours over 44 months = 4.7 to 7.8 hours a month, or 1 to 2 hours a week.

Of course, you could argue that no one really did cartographer or whatever before titles came out, so it works out to 2 to 4 hours a week.

Shatters the viewpoint of someone who thinks the title requires playing 6 hours a day, eh?

Cherng Butter · Jan 18, 2009, 10:44 PM // 22:44

If you're 100% efficient and have every area already unlocked (yet start a new character for survivor...), if you plan out every minute you're logged into GW, then yes I suppose. And it's not like titles came out with GW's inception 44 months ago. And you have to make that money somehow...(skill hunter ain't "free"). And you having everything exhaustively researched take 0 minutes isn't very feasible either.

I also thought videogames weren't supposed to be a chore, but meh. I'm not going after r6, nor do I think it's unreachable, but let's face it, you have to be pretty dedicated to achieve that many titles.

BenjZee · Jan 18, 2009, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Alot of things can be done together as you mentioned. I like the 1-2 hours a week that sounds pretty good

Depedning on how much money you got drunkard can simply be done via zoning as well so less hours.Things have changed dramatically (not necessarily for the bad)...Im planning on getting GWAMM one day

fusa · Jan 18, 2009, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Skill Hunter (4) - free (with vanquishing)

Its going to take some additional time to do skill hunter since most areas with bosses have bosses of several professionals. You can reduce some of the time by taking 1 or more signets of capture, but not enough to reduce the time by a lot.

Dzjudz · Jan 18, 2009, 11:03 PM // 23:03

Yeah I was gonna point out that skill hunter can't be done at the same time as vanquishing, but fusa beat me to it.

ChrisCo · Jan 18, 2009, 11:10 PM // 23:10

"Sweet/Party (2) - just money"

Didn't know there were money trees in gw -_-

the Puppeteer · Jan 18, 2009, 11:14 PM // 23:14

it's not impossible - it's boring

Shadowspawn X · Jan 18, 2009, 11:14 PM // 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasamune

I find it hilarious how bad players point to a high title and immediately think it's impossible to achieve unless you never leave your house (see other thread on r7 koabd title).

This attitude is simply someone who is looking at a blank toon and being overwhelmed. The titles just didn't pop up overnight. Many who attained GWAMM just played the content as it was presented. There were people who always did the missions and bonus/masters just as normal play, also capping skills was the way to be UAS back in the day and was very popular there were even PUG's to go skill capping so I think most players got the title as a cumulative effect of completest play campaign by campaign over two or three years. People who attempt to compress all the titles into one task to be ground out consecutively thats a totally different ball game. Because really what they are doing is taking years of content and trying to crunch though it in marathon style. I don't think that is healthy but I have seen it done.

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Total - 208 to 343 hours over 44 months = 4.7 to 7.8 hours a month, or 1 to 2 hours a week.[/b]

I don't see how this number is anywhere near correct. Protector takes four-five times longer than guardian because you have to follow the storyline quests to unlock the missions you are not just popping in there on demand like you do in HM. The rep grind is much more severe than you are stating easily 40 hours per reputation and master of the north includes all quests and dungeons in HM as well as NM. Also you don't state the time it take to farm the resources for the consumable titles.
A solid player is looking at 1500 hours using all the tricks;exploits and tools currently available.

Lord Of Blame · Jan 18, 2009, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Can you get to GWAMM in under 350 hrs? SS please.

Daenara · Jan 18, 2009, 11:19 PM // 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisCo

Didn't know there were money trees in gw -_-

It's called the xunlai tournament house. >.> During the time which I've been working on other titles, the couple of hundred k a month has paid for my sweet tooth and drunkard.

I agree with Divine about the length of the title though. Kurzick, the grindiest of grindy titles is only taking me a few months at 2 hours a day spent vanquishing, and I only have to do that because I didn't get survivor on my monk. (I was bad, alright? :P) If I didn't have to do that, most of the other titles are easily and efficiently done through regular play. I think most of the people who claim that GWAMM is for people with no lives, generally have no idea what they are talking about.

Taki · Jan 18, 2009, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasamune

...Total - 208 to 343 hours over 44 months = 4.7 to 7.8 hours a month, or 1 to 2 hours a week.[/b]

Of course, you could argue that no one really did cartographer or whatever before titles came out, so it works out to 2 to 4 hours a week.

Shatters the viewpoint of someone who thinks the title requires playing 6 hours a day, eh?

I'm sorry but someone working on titles, in a game, for 2 to 4 years is one pathetic piece of 'existence'. If I wasn't a heartless bastard I might be able to feel some shred of sympathy for these wastes of a nut. I suppose it's better than them getting hooked on smack and ruining the lives of other people. Better for them to stick to keeping their own lives from ever having any meaning whatsoever.

dies like fish · Jan 18, 2009, 11:44 PM // 23:44

There once was a man named Divine,
Ambassador, not Nine.
He beat pve.
So now all you see,
Is him yelling at people who whine.

Kalki · Jan 18, 2009, 11:45 PM // 23:45

It takes much longer than that. I would estimate the bare minimum a person with that title has logged for that character is 1,000 hours. It's a simple test. Ask people with GWAMM title to post a screenshot with /age.

With that being said, who cares if people play GW 6 hours a day, and who cares what people think? Do whatever you want.

Antares Ascending · Jan 18, 2009, 11:56 PM // 23:56

I think some of your numbers are optimistic at the least.

Without going into each point I'll do Master Cartographer....It or even a single cartographer woun't happen with a vanquish. You will have a high explored but Cartographer reqs alot of scraping of walls and some arent near a heck of alot of mobs. Far from free and no, it doesn't add just a little time.

Div · Jan 19, 2009, 12:04 AM // 00:04

I guess I forgot to post that you basically work with a character that's already beaten the game casually.

Eragon Zarroc · Jan 19, 2009, 12:06 AM // 00:06

u can't do it over 44 monthes considering the fact that campaigns came out in succesion with spans of monthes in-between. people weren't even worried about doing stuff that would count toward a title because it seemed pointless without having recognition before titles existed. like 5 titles came out only with the implementation of eotn which was less than a year ago. but, to put things in perspective, my guild leader had an account banned and had to restart. maxxed 30 titles within 6monthes. idk how many hours a day played, but u don't have to play constantly over the period of multiple years if ur under such an illusion.

kostolomac · Jan 19, 2009, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Wow , that is less than I thought. But I doubt I will be getting gwamm. I think I'll go for r3 koabd max.

pingu666 · Jan 19, 2009, 01:09 AM // 01:09

its more likely its for people who tend to play 1 char, and dont mind grind tbh

Arduin · Jan 19, 2009, 01:10 AM // 01:10

So how do you get the 720 points/hr with Drunkard? Thought the District-zoning was made impossible?

Also, take into account a lot of people weren't able to get Survivor on their main toon. Those are forced to run chests, id 10k golds or go for max Kurzick.

SaDuFam · Jan 19, 2009, 02:00 AM // 02:00

One pre-requisite is to be at the right time and right place to have a group of guildees wanting to do the same titles at the same playing time. I believe actual playing time is not a mojar obstacle for most players 1- 2 hours a day, but the time to find other similar minded players take a lot of time or near impossible at this stage of GW environment. It is hard to find someone looking for people to do HM missions in towns nowsaday. With the help of same minded guildees there is no obstacle in getting the GWAMM title in shorter time.