Mar 10, 2009, 09:02 PM // 21:02
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#101
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So Serious...
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: London
Guild: Nerfs Are [WHAK]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
Because you said and I quote:
Quote:
where both involve not telling the truth...
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Hence a lie.
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May I quote back the Oxford dictionary before this thread is closed?
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/lie_2?view=uk
lie
noun 1 an intentionally false statement. 2 a situation involving deception or founded on a mistaken impression.
I admit that it's not a clear-cut situation, both his post and mine can be interpreted as correct. But IMHO pointing to intentions is NOT a justification, it's a fundamental element that shouldn't be left.
Sucked even more ;P
Last edited by Fril Estelin; Mar 10, 2009 at 09:05 PM // 21:05..
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Mar 10, 2009, 10:31 PM // 22:31
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#102
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Guild: Guardians of the Cosmos
Profession: R/Mo
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This is a definition from Wikipedia and we all know they are always right.
To lie is to state something that one knows to be false or that one has not reasonably ascertained to be true with the intention that it be taken for the truth by oneself or someone else.
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Mar 10, 2009, 10:41 PM // 22:41
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#103
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Academy Page
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Illinois
Guild: Necropolis Warlords
Profession: R/Mo
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So is this scam illegal or not?
now that GW is all about money and social status, this is what we are going to see a lot of.
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Mar 11, 2009, 11:08 AM // 11:08
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#104
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: ontario, canada
Guild: Steel Beasts
Profession: E/
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I wonder if the guy trying to buy a vanguard eggnog was doing the same thing? I thought it was some crazy guy on a scavenger hunt
and Gw is NOT ALL about money and social status...some of us play cause we like to
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Mar 11, 2009, 11:57 AM // 11:57
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#105
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Forge Runner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong
At any point in time, a person may decide not to buy something. You can't prove that they never wanted to buy in the first place. I don't care whether or not it looks or feels like a bait and switch, or Barker and Shill, or shell game scam. YOU CAN'T PROVE IT. Why? Because this isn't a Court of Law where Perjury (lying) is a punishable offense, and if you ask someone doing this whether they intended to buy, they will most likely say, "of course I intended to buy, which is why I just bought one, thank you", whether it is a lie or not. You might suspect them of lying, but unless they agree to show you in Trade that they have one they just bought (which you would have no clue if they did or did not, one of the drawbacks of hiding behind an anonymous avatar in an online game), they don't HAVE to show you anything if they don't wish to.
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14. TERMINATION
(a) NC Interactive reserves the right to suspend or terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and without notice if you breach this Agreement or willfully infringe any third party intellectual property rights, or if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us, or upon game play, chat or any player activity whatsoever which is, in our sole discretion, inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of the Game(s) as described in the Rules of Conduct.
In other words, there's no need for proof of intent; if NCSoft finds what someone is doing 'inappropriate', by whatever standard they chose to uphold, they can ban.
Unfortunately, these are just hollow words. If only they did ban people for being worthless pieces of garbage, we'd not have to be posting in threads like this.
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Mar 11, 2009, 03:15 PM // 15:15
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#106
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sacramento, CA
Guild: Geezers
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oracle.delphi
I wonder if the guy trying to buy a vanguard eggnog was doing the same thing? I thought it was some crazy guy on a scavenger hunt
and Gw is NOT ALL about money and social status...some of us play cause we like to
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Yeah, those guild scavenger hunts look like fun. I saw some guys running around trying to buy all sorts of esoteric quest items. I thought it was a scam but one of the guys did indeed give me 5k for a green Am Fah Brotherhood cape that I happened to have on me at the time. I'm trying to remember some of the other items they were looking for. I know one was a Claws of Broodmother identified to be worth exactly 66g.
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