Curse

Star Gazer · Apr 03, 2009, 11:51 AM // 11:51

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Since the game became so boring reporting peoples names has become my new past time after this update.

And you can't tell me when people make up these abusive toity mouth names that they don't know when they make them that they are what they are. But, I love all the innocent defensive responses here I read when someone gets caught or banned. lol Everybody is innocent, nobody ever does anything wrong. lol And I hope they get this Sjeng guy real quick. He obviously is one who breaks the law at HIS will and then claims innocense any time he's confronted with the issues.

Red Sonya is a movie made by Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 1980's. Therefore, your name is copyright infringement. Enjoy your report.

Jeydra · Apr 03, 2009, 12:08 PM // 12:08

Man Regina, in addition to making it illegal to champ farm + leech, you could also have made it illegal to sync RA ...

pumpkin pie · Apr 03, 2009, 01:04 PM // 13:04

First Part:
on a lighter side:
what if someone's name is Jesus? or Hitler. It is a name after all and i am just wandering.

On other stuffs, I need clarification/answer:
I think now is a good time to ask.

"The whole reason for having a Rules of Conduct is to make sure that the game world is a pleasant place to be."

I find players syncing RA to be extremely unpleasant, its exactly the same as the above issue, Jesus is a name given to many male child around the world. while I don't find it offensive that someone would name their character Jesus, I am sure a lot of other players would think its a blasphemes of a Joke directed towards the related religion and find it offensive. So ArenaNet take action because a part of its players base find that offensive because it makes the game world an unpleasant place to be, right, so the name issue has seen so much attention.

Now, what about me? am I not your customer, am I not a Guild Wars player? don't I also deserve some attention because I find the Game World to be unpleasant when other players sync in area where you are not suppose to form a group before entering? Are my idea of "an unpleasent game world to be" disregard by ArenaNet?

Second part:
Now I ask you ArenaNet:
How do you translate this: "Engaging in PvP match manipulation, disrupting a PvP match by not actively playing in good faith, or any other form of PvP griefing, exploitation, or abuse."

what area is the game is consider PvP
what is mean by "not actively playing in good faith
what is other form of PvP griefing? exploitation and abuse?

if you say Random Arena is PvP and that sync in griefing and exploitation and abuse, then please disregard the first part of this post and proceed to the next part to receive my bear hugs and thanks

you should see a bear huggy someone here. but i dont' want to steal anyones pictures. anyway.

thanks for reading.

MithranArkanere · Apr 03, 2009, 01:56 PM // 13:56

For HB, the solution is as easy as removing the /roll and /Rock /Papper /Sccissors emotes from there.

For the 'not report' problem, there should be a way to detect inactivity, and a message would show in a dialog box with a sound: "<character name> seems to be inactive, consider reporting his behavior with the /report <character name> command."

aapo · Apr 03, 2009, 02:09 PM // 14:09

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

On a second offense, we will assign the offending player a new, randomly-generated name

- I can't stop laughing.

Ur Mommas Pen0r becomes Sir Elmcmor McKnight

Okay so here's the ultimate way to grief someone. Just find some PvE'r who's bragging with all the titles he's got, report his name as offensive - after all who's to say you couldn't be offended by something - then he might be forced to get some lame and his years of "work" will be in vain.

Sjeng · Apr 03, 2009, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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Originally Posted by Star Gazer

Red Sonya is a movie made by Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 1980's. Therefore, your name is copyright infringement. Enjoy your report.

I was just about to say that lol. Thanks Stargazer, and thanks Arduinna for your reply too. Some people are just complete... well you know.
A person spending his/her pasttime reporting others just for fun are exactly the kind of people that make me feel like never ever PUGging again in GW. Who the hell gets kicks out of reporting others just for the heck of it? Is that your idea of fun Red Sonya? That's really... sad...

But it proves my point on this whole policy thing.
"Hey, this guy pissed me off on a public community forum! I'm gonna look him up ingame and report his ass hahahaha!". Well good luck. Have a blast. :\

Red Sonya · Apr 03, 2009, 03:49 PM // 15:49

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Who the hell gets kicks out of reporting others just for the heck of it? Is that your idea of fun Red Sonya?

Fun is what the individual finds as fun. SO, yes it's FUN to me and I'm doin it I already reported two names this morning. If you don't like it oh well Anet has approved it and I'm not doing anything wrong and btw my ingame name is never names I use on forums.

Do you really think it bothers me that you don't like my type of FUN? hahaha it just makes it MORE FUN to me that it bothers YOU!

Sjeng · Apr 03, 2009, 04:15 PM // 16:15

that is so sad. but I thank you for making my point so clear.

HawkofStorms · Apr 03, 2009, 04:31 PM // 16:31

A lot of people fail to realize that this is how the LAW works in real life.

Negligence actions, for example, are not based on your subjective views. Courts look at things objectively, with a "reasonable person" standard. Just because you subjectively "thought you could drive well while drunk," doesn't make that a defense to your actions.

Authorities look instead at what a reasonably prudent person would consider negligent behavior. A reasonable person would say it is negligent to drive drunk.

A reasonable person would find your names to be offensive. Just because it isn't offensive to you, doesn't change the fact that it is.

Again, this is how the court system actually works. Of course it may not seem "fair" to apply someone else's standard to your behavior, but that makes people act with caution.

AngelWJedi · Apr 03, 2009, 05:07 PM // 17:07

does this mean the names i researched so i could name my gals in another language could get banned?! i looked up langauges the selected names with non offensives english translation, some name which are rather cute. does this mean i could get reported for them? i know one langauge word can have other meanings in other langauges.

grrr anet! this will suck if i have to do that i spent to much money and time on my gals. As for the leeching yeah right anet. as the saying goes "Actions speak Louder then Words" when i see known leechers gone from fa/jq then i will believe you!

ghost well you know · Apr 03, 2009, 05:16 PM // 17:16

LOL does that include NPC character names?

I got banned for ghost farter,( a spirit spamming rit)

but theres a NPC named deep root.....

Can I report deep root? He is in props...lol

BlackAngel · Apr 03, 2009, 05:20 PM // 17:20

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Originally Posted by Bof

1. Your name cannot be that long
2. People have Goddes or God in their name and do not get banned.

All depends on context.

Your no. 1. just completely misses the point I was trying to make, but I was kinda expecting someone to come up with this fairly quickly

Your no. 2. altho gets the point and this is what I'm trying to figure out here. As God is major figure in some religions in this world, would it be bannable name full stop and if so why it is ok to have it displaying as a title under you character name?

If God as a word is not bannable, but only if it is attached to a nasty context, then it's all clear and happy-hanki-doori.

Some clarification from Anet would be nice.

Martin Alvito · Apr 03, 2009, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

what if someone's name is Jesus? or Hitler.

Lotta guys from Catholic countries named Jesus.

As for the "reasonable person" standard - it works fine when there is well-defined historical case law to guide the judge and society on behavior, but ANet is basically trying to enforce censorship here. This is private property and they have the right, but there isn't any set of historical guidelines to educate people on expected behavior. Codifying the rules is a step in the right direction, but this set of rules may prove too restrictive. You could attack a lot of names that have been kicking around for years under these rules.

Similarly, the match manipulation rules will prove difficult and costly to enforce. A literal reading suggests that this bans ganking in Halls matches. That's a lot of matches to have to sift through and administer.

Writing statutes broadly often seems like the appropriate way to deter, but the problem is that broad statutes are costly to enforce. My suspicion is that either these new rules will either need to be rewritten, or ANet will prove unwilling to bear the costs necessary to enforce all of these rules and we'll land back where we started with unclear standards.

makosi · Apr 03, 2009, 05:28 PM // 17:28

God can be used as a noun or a proper noun. Lyssa, Melandru, Grenth etc. are gods and the father of Christ is a god who we often refer to as God.

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Is it only me who finds General Kumtash pornographic?

A11Eur0 · Apr 03, 2009, 05:41 PM // 17:41

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Originally Posted by Star Gazer

Red Sonya is a movie made by Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 1980's. Therefore, your name is copyright infringement. Enjoy your report.

Nice try but you fail. The movie is Red Sonja. No "y" in it.

MrTickle · Apr 03, 2009, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Try telling that to parents who will buy this game for their children.

Children do play this game, regardless of its rating (because, lets be honest, how many parents really understand the difference between video games).

Having a chat filter and enforcing certain rules is a selling point and feature to concerned parents.

Responsible parents would check the age limit BEFORE buying it for their kids!

Painbringer · Apr 03, 2009, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Responsible parents would also get on the game themselves and see what the game is all about. Or at least sit with there kid awhile to check it out.

Regina Buenaobra · Apr 03, 2009, 06:28 PM // 18:28

There seems to be some confusion about the update to the Naming Policy, which was provided more detail based upon existing guidelines in the User Agreement, and the enforcement of our policies.

People here seem to think that we're going to be even more strict than we were in the past because we published the Naming Policy. That's not the case. We put into writing what we have already been enforcing. The only thing that has changed about enforcement of the acceptable names policy is on the second offense.

Abedeus · Apr 03, 2009, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Lotta guys from Catholic countries named Jesus.

Nope, just Spain.

It's Jesus only there. Other countries, while have Jesus as a name, don't name kids like that because... well, people might make fun of them. That's a common name only in Spain and Spanish-speaking countries.

]HM[ Sabre Wolf · Apr 03, 2009, 06:46 PM // 18:46

In short, I think what Regina is saying that ANET just wanted the policies in actual black and white so if there is an issue, its something to turn to and say "here is the reason, you violated it" instead of... "well... we said somthing about it 2-3 years ago, but we cant really back that up because we dont have physical proof of the rule that you voilated". And that this is not an actual global change to the rules, or increased policing (although I feel an increase is much needed)...

Its basicully to cover their "booty" for the betterment of the community.