Curse

RotteN · Apr 14, 2009, 01:44 PM // 13:44

"Hilarious" fact: I asked one of the forum mods to crossreference IPs, and the account that posted that ticket belonged to someone that tried out for our guild, but was eventually refused because he didn't live up to expectations.

That'll teach us to give people a chance ...

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 14, 2009, 01:53 PM // 13:53

*sigh* there should be an option that allows u to change it if u unintentionally made something offensive. however, i don't think there is such a mechanic for this atm is there? only renames of characters atm.

Zabe · Apr 14, 2009, 01:58 PM // 13:58

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

*sigh* there should be an option that allows u to change it if u unintentionally made something offensive. however, i don't think there is such a mechanic for this atm is there? only renames of characters atm.

ANet is fully able to change your tag and im pretty sure they are able to change full guild names also.

The tag change to [ban] isnt automatical, it comes rather late compared to actual ban.

If ANet would really be co-operative at this matter they would just say; make an non offensive tag and we will change it.

But you know they never wan't to listen their customers on these kind of matters.

Xanthe Dashka · Apr 14, 2009, 02:05 PM // 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by RotteN

"Hilarious" fact: I asked one of the forum mods to crossreference IPs, and the account that posted that ticket belonged to someone that tried out for our guild, but was eventually refused because he didn't live up to expectations.

That'll teach us to give people a chance ...

Maybe Anet should track down those who report people and see if they don't do it for revenge. I can't believe they ban a guild because 1 single person writes a report. When the opinion of a single person can cause this trouble... EPIC.

When I look at the ladder and observermode, I see many names that offend me with some imagination. For example, why are tags like [SuX] and [nuts] around? So, Random Euro Trash is allowed?

FalconDance · Apr 14, 2009, 02:06 PM // 14:06

Anet is becoming waaaaaaaay too pc, in my opinion. I tried to name a pet Anklebiter in honor of one I'd had three years ago on a 'toon who retired, but the word "bite" in any form is no longer allowed.

Now we're expected to know every possible translation of an acronym in any given language? Pbfft. Most Americans barely speak English anymore!

Gforce · Apr 14, 2009, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by Xanthe Dashka

Maybe Anet should track down those who report people and see if they don't do it for revenge. I can't believe they ban a guild because 1 single person writes a report. When the opinion of a single person can cause this trouble... EPIC.

They do, it requires 1 person who is offended to write a support ticket and then you get banned, provided that 1 person can give a good reason.

As I said before, I regret having an offensive name but it's very hard to prevent having an offensive tag if you want something that is actually pronouncable (Id rather not have a tag like [dfgf] or something..), since there are so many languages.

Kaon · Apr 14, 2009, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Hey massive, if you're reading this:

Go to a doctor, get yourself checked. If someone gives you a chance to make it big in guild wars you should thank them. You failed and that's your own fault. I didn't even yell at you (more than anyone else) so the only reason you're acting like this is because you're crazy.

If you fail school are you going to blast your teachers away because they gave you the opportunity to do exams? I certainly hope not.

deluxe · Apr 14, 2009, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Outrageous! Ban massive from GW, QQ and guru imo!

MrTickle · Apr 14, 2009, 02:28 PM // 14:28

/rant
Anet are stupid to leave the banstick in the hands of complete idiots. I'm 99% sure they ban on request of one idiot without bothering to check UNLESS the banned person/guild places a ticket to plead their case.

This is NOT fair and they should change their policy. At the end of the day it's a NAME in a GAME with don't forget... an AGE LIMIT. So what if someone has an immature name or if an english word has a different meaning in another language it doesn't bother me, It's none of my business.

Sword Hammer Axe · Apr 14, 2009, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Suka is also a slang way of writing the work sucker. But I do agree with you that knowing foreign words is kind of tough. They should make a list of words and names in any language that you may not use. Otherwise it is unfair.

Sword Hammer Axe · Apr 14, 2009, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by FalconDance

the word "bite" in any form is no longer allowed.

In that case let's banish this guy:

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Frostbite

RotteN · Apr 14, 2009, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sword Hammer Axe

Suka is also a slang way of writing the work sucker.

I'm pretty sure you should allow [SuKa] in that "meaning" if you allow [pre][Sux] or [Shat][/pre]

DarkNecrid · Apr 14, 2009, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Basically this is a complete joke, I get that people can make mistakes including NCSoft's support team, but this is dumb. These guys had no clue Suka meant a bad word in another language first off, second off a multitude of words can mean bad things in other languages.

Let's say you like Sega (Genesis, Dreamcast, etc) and want to name a guild after them. Guess what you could be reported because Sega is an Irish (Might be Italian, I forgot which one) word for masturbate. There are tons of words that mean bad stuff in other languages because of how languages are formed. Hell, even suka in itself isn't a bad word in certain languages, as someone on QQ pointed out it means "like" in the Malay language.

Suka is obviously an abbreviation of their guild name, Super Kaon Action Team, it is a play on the other well known guild Seppo Hovi Action Team {SHAT}. Shat could be construed as a bodily function that is currently against the ArenaNet naming policy.

Honestly, being strict is one thing, I get why some offensive names have to be banned, but this guild tag is clearly just an abbreviation of their guild name and was the result of someone's insane vendetta against their guild. When it comes to languages, you have to draw the line somewhere because too many words can mean too many bad things.

If you're going to ban these guys, please ban these guilds too:

Die Keller Kindler [KK] - Keller is a slang term for having intercourse with an underage girl who later regrets it for repercussions it had, clearly linked to pedophilia.

Battery Powered Best Friend [vibe] - Was once banned, but this is clearly insinuating innuendo that causes certain bodily functions to occur.

Go Deep [yeye] - Clearly related to going deep inside a woman, can't have that.

Dnasuoht Enin Revo [ooob] - Revo is slang for a male self pleasure technique.

Harmful I F Swallowed [pE] - Bodily functions.

That was just the top 300 in a quick glance, probably a lot more.

Tullzinski · Apr 14, 2009, 03:16 PM // 15:16

Leave it to one whiner to ruin all my polish toon names...

If I see someone with a name in GW that looks odd, I pay absolutely no attention to it and move on. Who rushes to Google translator to check if it is some swear word in another language.

At some point this he/she(called IT from this point on) tries out for the guild and while doing so is let in on the inside joke of their tag and out of spite reports them to ANET for a violation when he does not cut it - F%#@$%g Lame. IT should be banned for being a pussy and abusing the system.

How in the hell can IT feel discriminated against if someone else calls their guild Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa], IT should have been asked how this discriminates against ITself. How is this directed at that IT specifically?

What group does IT belong to that if a guild refers to itself as a bitch in polish this causes IT to be discriminated against.

For this discrimination to even remotely occur IT has to be a female or perhaps a gay male. Even if this is the case it still has to be directed at them in some way. When I call myself polish bekart(bastard) does this discriminate against all other polish people?

This is a clear case of abuse of the reporting system specifically to hurt that guild. That guild should submit a support ticket to ANET showing IT's obvious intention to punish the guild and the obvious abuse of the reporting system to get them banned. Copy any posts that IT made and include them in the ticket.

Shame on NCSOFT/ANET if they do not ban this person after being provided proof that this ticket was submitted specifically to cause grief to this guild.

For the record being polish. If you called me a suka I would laugh since you would be using that term incorrectly. Bekart would be correct. Even then I am actually 50% polish and 50% italian thus making me a powop. So I really only have a 50% chance at being offended.

Stuart444 · Apr 14, 2009, 03:24 PM // 15:24

You know, instead of talking about this on a forum, you could probably..I don't know...Send a report ticket about it and say why you don't feel that the guild should have been banned for it. Or even post on Galies talk page and see what she says.

whining about it on here does nothing really.

...and if that doesn't work, you can always keep an eye out for things that might be offensive and keep reporting to see how many of them get banned :P

edit: just to clarify, I do agree it's stupid that the guild got banned instead of being asked to change their tag, but again you can't really do much about it by posting here. Better to mention it to Galie/talk about it to the support team and argue your case

Empress Amarox · Apr 14, 2009, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Heyyy, now that you mention it...

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_561548090/seppo.html
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shat
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shat?qsrc=2888

Code:

sep·po [ séppō ] (plural sep·pos)
noun 
Definition:
 
Australia an offensive term for a citizen of the United States

Code:

shat        (shāt)   
v.   Vulgar Slang
A past tense and a past participle of shit.

/inbeforeban?

DarkNecrid · Apr 14, 2009, 03:27 PM // 15:27

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Originally Posted by Stuart444

You know, instead of talking about this on a forum, you could probably..I don't know...Send a report ticket about it and say why you don't feel that the guild should have been banned for it. Or even post on Galies talk page and see what she says.

They can't unban guilds (even though they magically did for vibe, go figure) apparently, so talking to support won't do anything.

Quote:

whining about it on here does nothing really.

I think the intent is that Regina will notice quite a few people think this is dumb and maybe get them to rethink their support situation.

Quote:

...and if that doesn't work, you can always keep an eye out for things that might be offensive and keep reporting to see how many of them get banned :P

A guy on QQ mentioned doing this, I wouldn't be surprised if he does. If one guy can get a guild (that's 8+ people) getting ready for a mAT banned for a guild tag that is clearly just an abbreviation of their name and the word it stands for is some cuss word in ANOTHER language, then who knows what any random guy could do. Hell, I'm pretty sure you could probably find a way to get rawr banned if you were smart about it.

Trub · Apr 14, 2009, 03:33 PM // 15:33

You have a point Stuart444, but remember...this is a forum for discussion, and even tho 'someone' dug thru every possible language filter to find a reason to ban the OP guild....ANet actually took 1 persons 'compaint'.. and banned a whole guild for it.
k ANet...your rules.
I found this on Google:

ZoS be careful......

An actual book here.
I find any direction to this name offensive.
'the Zos Kia Cultus' :
The Book of Pleasure, in which he (the writer) used art and sex to explore the subconscious mind.
tsk.tsk.
What have you done ANet.

fb2000 · Apr 14, 2009, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

Die Keller Kindler [KK] - Keller is a slang term for having intercourse with an underage girl who later regrets it for repercussions it had, clearly linked to pedophilia.

Dunno, the second I read it I just translated it myself as the simple german phrase Kellerkind which is often used to describe a gamer that doesnt see the light of the sun very often

. The "Die" also fits in as the thing is in plural..

If you start searching, I'm quite sure every word has a vulgar meaning to it... It will never end really.

kedde · Apr 14, 2009, 03:34 PM // 15:34

Well, obvious rawr extended edition is a reference to the teenage thoughts of sexual intercourse, rising is an erection and extended edition obviously means havhing had an enlargement surgery.

Using that as reasoning and being stubborn enough combined with good wording could quite possibly get their secondary guild banned.

Also, shitters banned me from GWO for "circumventing moderation".
I have no idea what that means, but I succeeded in spawning a large discussion of over 10 pages before it happened.
Still at a loss as to why the ban was enforced though.