Curse

EagleDelta1 · Apr 29, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

Zaishen Coins: *** (3/5)
They loose a star because of the bug that you can't put them in storage. This should have been tested and fixed.
The rewards are not spectacular (except for the equipment pack which should not be linked to grind because they have nothing else people would play for) and you need to pay lots of coins. For example 30 copper zoins for one sparkler. This costs them a second star.

Just as a side note, I was reading feedback(and QQing) about this bug on the wiki and in a quick reply Linsey said that they DID test it extensively on their test servers before going live and it worked fine, they didn't know why the bug was there till 3 hours later and then they didn't have enough time to do a build and get it out, bug free, until after the weekend. She also went berserk on one person because he demanded an answer on when it would be fixed. that was awesome.

ele pl · Apr 29, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Ok then, now me:

Equipment Pack (3/5)
I have 2 main characters, my Ele, where 10 slot bag is enough, and my Monk, with shit-load of shields, so 20 would be nice. I dont myself grinding for that so long. But the fact, that it will be available to buy from players given 2 stars

Xunlai Storage: (3/5)
The extra free tab is okay, as long as its free. Mine is actually full, but the price for a tab is too high. I am wondering about buying of those - new account, or tab of storage. I will probably buy the first one

Zaishen Challenge Quests: 2/5
PUG-ing is back! Yay, thats really cool! Those zquest are really cool! But the rewards are too high. Win 2-3 battles and get 6 k fb reward? Ok then! Either lower the prices, or multiple every FB in game by 5, so it will be balanced.

Zaishen Coins: 2/5
Pretty much same as qeusts. Now they will be overfarmed. People stop caring when heavy eq bags will come to the players' marketplace. They will be forgotten soon. Theres absolutely no reason to collect them, but EQ pack. Maybe 5 zaishen points for each quest completed?

Zaishen Menagerie: 4/5
Pretty cool thing

Looking forward to unlock them all.

Nicolas the Traveler: 5/5
Pretty much BEST thing in that update. Thing, that requies teamwork (all playerbase!). We are looking forward to it every week. I only hope that he has MANY spawn locations, not like 10-20, because it will be boring routine every week. I hope Anet will create another guy like that

With unique rewards.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: 5/5
Well, i actually started caring about my Hom! I will make it cool this weekend, i promise.

Miscellaneous: 4/5
New tonics, new minipets. We want moar that kind-of-useless stuff. Why? Because its so freaking nice to go to LA and see a bone dragon there. Really, its epic.

Overall: 3/5
Fix rewards of zqeusts, and it will be pretty much 4/5-5/5.

upier · Apr 29, 2009, 08:59 PM // 20:59

The Rings + Yak.
5/5

Everything else - I don't care for in it's current form.

Vel · Apr 29, 2009, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Equipment Pack: **** (3/5)
1 star lost to grind factor and 1 star lost to the timing of the feature.

Xunlai Storage: *** (4/5)
1 star lost because of the timing of the storage update; 2 years too late. But, it is well done. I am excited to see how ANET is testing their business model.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: **** (4/5)
2 stars lost to grind factor but, 1 star was won back because it brought PuGs (Argh!) back in the game, somewhat.

Zaishen Coins: *** (N/A)
Can't rate as I have never bothered to see another kind of storage devourer.

Zaishen Menagerie: **** (5/5)
Must be great. Yet to see. Rating based on what friends' said.

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
Absolutely a great addition.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: ***** (5/5)
Hmm...I like it. Not a big fan of it anyway.

New character customisation: **** (5/5)
1 star lost to timeliness and 1 star won back because of the surprise factor. Well done indeed. Again, ANET is testing the customerbase.

Linsey and her team: **** (5/5)
When you like what you do, it shows. Good job as always. Sarcasms, rants and whining will always be there as long as internet exists. But, looking beyond that, it's all cool. Well done indeed.

** Thanks to OP for the structured post that I could C&P from.

Cale Roughstar · Apr 29, 2009, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Equipment Pack: **** (4/5)
I love it. Don't really care how much they cost, because more space is still more space than I used to have.

Xunlai Storage: * (1/5)
I have to pay for this crap? I have 5 accounts, so absolutely zero incentive.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: **** (4/5)
I LOVE THESE! They have given me a reason to go back and enjoy the content that I otherwise couldn't be arsed to do. The only thing that makes them not a perfect 5/5 is the slightly unbalanced rewards. 5 mins for 70copper with Molotov and 35 for 25 mins with the Coldstones? Ugh.

Zaishen Coins: **** (4/5)
Again, I don't really care how much the stuff costs. They are new, useful and fun items, and I would go for them no matter what. (Though the biggest bag really is a bit too expensive

) Yay for allowing them in storage now!

Zaishen Menagerie: *** (3/5)
Meh, I don't especially care. It is nice.

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
Awesome in every sense of the word.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: **** (4/5)
Yay! It is a bit disappointing that I can't see which item belongs to which character etc.

New character customisation: ** (2/5)
Again, I have to pay real money for this crap? No thanks. Ill keep my old names and looks and my $15 thanks. (Mostly I don't care for this one because I took great care in character creation)

Miscellanious *** (3/5)
Meh.

My final rating: 30/45 stars or 3.3/5.

Nodakim · Apr 29, 2009, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Nicholas The Traveler 5/5
Zaishen Daily Quests 5/5

Everything else isnt worth my attention.

Sarevok Thordin · Apr 29, 2009, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Equipment Pack: **** (4/5)
They are there if you need them, I probably won't but I'm not going to complain about it.

Xunlai Storage: *** (3/5)
This doesn't bother me much.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: ***** (5/5)
GREAT, it encourages people to go back and do those things they never did before, with additional rewards for going the extra mile. Good for those trying to get Guardian titles. Nice one Anet

Zaishen Coins: **** (4/5)
Useful things, -1 start for requiring GOLD to use them

Zaishen Menagerie: ***** (5/5)
I had GREAT fun filling this place up.

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
Give me my Gwen!

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: ***** (5/5)
Now it feels like a real hall of me

New character customisation: *** (3/5)
Good if I need it, but I took care during creation. Anet's gotta make money somehow

All in all, an update you'd have to be a baby to look for bad things in.

Qing Guang · Apr 29, 2009, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Equipment Pack: *** (3/5)
Really neat, except for the insanely high cost. Drop it and it'd be 5 stars, easy.

Xunlai Storage: ** (2/5)
2 stars for the freebie. Pity stars, really. At least I didn't have to make a whole stupid PlayNC account just for that.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: **** (4/5)
Fun, Bounty goes well with my skill capping, Combat got me back into PvP, Mish is, well, I need Master's on a lot of things. -1 star for really crummy rewards for Bounties. 10 zoins is just not worth the effort.

Zaishen Coins: *** (3/5)
Good idea - SOOOO happy I can get tomes more easily now (converted a PvP mez to PvE, still trying to get her all her old skills), but the big gaps in value are annoying. As with the equip packs, price needs to go down a little.

Zaishen Menagerie: ***** (5/5)
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. My Para finally got to cap her crane, even though she isn't supposed to have left Istan yet. I'd love to just explore there a bit. Also, this is tempting me to make that new Ranger a beastmaster, just to have a little fun (since I have heroes for the rest, and it's not like I haven't made much-derided-yet-reasonably-effective builds before - MoR/Hundred Blades + FDS before the functionality change, whoo).

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
NICE. Now I can afford a bigger commish. Also, it's fun to track him down. Best part of the update, IMO. Except maybe the menagerie.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: **** (4/5)
Nice to see how my armors look on my other charas. I'm kind of bugged by the little black mannequins they've got if you can't get the armor on that prof, though. Maybe it's time we had those... *hint hint*

New character customization: * (1/5)
Very cool... except for that tiny little thing about how changing my ele's hair the slightest shade costs more than a bus ride on the local public transit. KEEEERfail. Were it a pay-to-unlock-permanently rather than pay-for-credits thing, though, I'd buy this in a heartbeat.

Miscellanious ***** (5/5)
Eh, it's misc. I've got nothing to complain about it, really (okay okay I do think the VDS looks like some kind of plastic PlaySkool My First Dragon Sword thing, but whatever). Kudos to ANet for implementing the Merch summon stones.

My final rating: 32/45 stars or 71% (C-). Would be better, except for the microtransactions of doom and the zoin grind. Make the store costs smaller, or make the Stylist an unlock-once purchase, and reduce the zoin costs/make getting them easier, and I'll revise the gradebook.

Hyper Cutter · Apr 30, 2009, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Equipment Packs: 2/5. great concept, but the ridiculous cost in Z-coins really hurts it...

Xunlai Storage: 4/5. Should have made the free panel available via the ingame store.

Zaishen Quests: 3/5.

Zaishen Coins: 3/5. Everything costs too damn much.

Zaishen Menagerie: 5/5. One of the best things in ages! I wish they'd introduced this years ago!

Nicholas the Traveler: 5/5. Never bothered with him so far, but the rewards sound pretty sweet.

HoM Changes: Account-wide is great, but the real spotlight-stealer here is finally being able to arrange the damn monuments!

New Character Customization: 4/5 (makeover) 3/5 (name). The intercampaign makeovers are something I've wanted for a while (a little broke at the moment, though, so I haven't actually used it), but the name change costs far too much for my taste...

darted · Apr 30, 2009, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Equipment Packs 4.5/5 - Like this one. Wish there was something for tomes too, but this was great - buy in game with gold small and work for bigger - ok with me.
Please have f9 open this too.

Xunlai Storage: 4.5/5. Should have made the free panel available via the ingame store.

Zaishen Quests: 5/5. Good stuff - something for PVE and PVP. I enjoy these challenges even though some I will never probably pull off.

Zaishen Coins: 5/5. I actually have to work to accomplish something - wow that means I have to play the game....! Good job - quit whining.

Zaishen Menagerie: 5/5. Great! I wish they'd introduced this earlier!

Nicholas the Traveler: 5/5. Fun, but can be grindy in presear. I like the concept and hey - grind happens in MMOPGs. I won't ding the devs for that little bit with the fun rewards there are. I want mini-Gwen!

HoM Changes: Account-wide is great, and very cool to see the armor previews - good job. Several tweaks here that are welcome.

New Character Customization: n/a - I will not rate this since I will not participate. Really overpriced for a single 'fix' of a name or tweak of a look. If it was one buy to unlock the ability maybe... But even then I am mostly happy with my names and looks.

Overall I like this update.

Good job.

There were bugs, but this was a major update and go live often has something pop up. Disappointing for all, but not going to blow up about it.

Taurucis · Apr 30, 2009, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Equipment Pack:
Eh... 3/5. It would have been a good idea but the amount of grind needed for it is ridiculous.

Xunlai Storage:
2/5. It's nice that they're finally listening to players (after 4 years?) but it was implemented horribly. The "Free panel" needs an NC store account, and it's totally overpriced as well.

Zaishen Challenge Quests:
4/5. It's a pretty nice take on the repeatable quest idea, but make them change a lot sooner... like every 12 hours. And have more options available, too - like for the PvP challenge, you could have win 10 battles in Random Arena OR win 3 battles in Heroes Ascent... the more choices, the better.

Zaishen Coins:
2.5/5. They're just like the random tokens you get from festivals, nothing special. Although I wish that the useful rewards weren't so overpriced.

Zaishen Menagerie:
3/5. It's an excellent idea. Although I fail to see why they made it so big and so empty...

Nicolas the Traveler:
3/5. So he's like a "bring me some stuff and I give you loot?" I dunno.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide:
4/5. Grinding is boring. Grinding the same thing for 8 different characters is worse.

New character customization:
1/5. Epic fail there. If GW is going down the route of microtransactions, they should take a page out of Perfect World's book and instead have it so that players can buy "Makeover Scrolls" or something. That way, people who can't/won't buy stuff through the ingame store don't get totally ripped off.

But a better idea would have been to make the character makeovers require ingame gold.

Miscellaneous
2/5. I heard this update glitched quite a few things to hell... oh, and skill update plz.

My final rating: 24.5 out of 45 (unless I screwed up somewhere, I'm tired as hell)

Conclusion: Too little, too late. And hell, for the hell of it.

Rico Ric · May 01, 2009, 01:57 AM // 01:57

I give em 100/100,

Everything, to include having to wait a whole 2-3 days to transfer z-coins was worth the wait.

As for parts i may not have any interest? well i just wont use them, everything else is gravy.

Fitz Rinley · May 01, 2009, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Equipment Pack: ** (2/5)
More attempts to coerce people into playing with those they have already chosen not to. If I could count on a higher level of maturity, I would play with more than those I have learned to trust.

Xunlai Storage: * (1/5)
This rating could have been higher if it had not been costing people their accounts due to glitches and hang-ups at NC Soft. Lack of preparation for this kind of thing is normal in GW and unfortunate. Further, using this as a way to force people into NC Accounts was not acceptable.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: **** (4/5)
No huge complaints here. Don't care for the extensive farm-fest foisted on us when there is already too much to get done by GW2.

Zaishen Coins: *** (3/5)
It's obvious there is no bug preventing the coins from going into storage. They don't want people to be able to farm them with multiple characters and make the waste of time unnecessary for others.

Zaishen Menagerie: N/A
Cant rate this one yet. I have opened it but I have not tried it.

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
This one is amusing, but I am not giving up my flowers - need them for tapestry shreds.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: **** (4/5)
I never understood why the change to cartoon characters to display the armor. They could have simply had the correct armor appear in the bronze statue look appropriate to the monument.

New character customisation: ***** (5/5)
A fair amount of man hours and nice adherence to fan interest. Only thing I would have liked is more hair, hair color, face, skin color options for the non-Core character classes. That would have been nice, but I suppose the man-hours are already too much.

My final rating: 24/35 stars or 68% = D+.

Conclusion:
Sometimes the line between pass and fail is not enough, especially when they can do better. But some good things.

Professor K · May 01, 2009, 09:47 AM // 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

Zaishen Coins: *** (3/5)
It's obvious there is no bug preventing the coins from going into storage. They don't want people to be able to farm them with multiple characters and make the waste of time unnecessary for others.

Haha, whoops I guess this kid missed the memo.

Jongo River · May 01, 2009, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Equipment Pack: * (1/5) There shouldn't be different types and obtaining them should be in sync with previous forms of storage (NOT expensive and NO grind). Very angry about the implementation of this part of the storage update - I'd award 0, because I'm not grinding or buying any of them, but I assume 1 star is usually the minimum in a 5 star system.

Xunlai Storage: *** (3/5) Not bad. It's nice to have a free tab and I'm going to assume the others are priced high for future 2for1 promotions.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: ** (2/5) Great idea for PuGs. They shouldn't have tried to force the concept, though. Doesn't suit me, because I like to take newer toons through the whole game, not replay bits here and there on my main. AND I DON'T PUG!

Zaishen Coins: * (1/5) Horribly convoluted - why 3 types? Stingy awards for PvE and apparently easily farmed if you happen to like PvP (or playing the how to decide who resigns in PvP meta-game). Binned them, because they're a waste of precious storage at the rate I was getting them.

Zaishen Menagerie: *** (3/5) Not terribly interested. Haven't found reason to visit yet.

Nicolas the Traveler: **** (4/5) Cute and weekly is better than daily. I soon tired of the Huntsman.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: ***** (5/5) Much needed. Shame it didn't happen a week after EotN and kinda got burried in the rest of this update.

New character customisation: *** (3/5) Probably wouldn't use it anyway, but was a bit dissappointed they didn't extend the range of options for non-core classes. Even hair/skin tones would have been something.

Conclusion:
Deeply disappointed by the rather forced connection between more storage and Z-quests. Can feel a rage-quit coming on.

Longasc · May 01, 2009, 12:14 PM // 12:14

Equipment Pack: ** (2/5)
Good idea, but awful idea to tie this to the Zaishen Coins.

Xunlai Storage: * (1/5)
Nothing against more storage, it is very useful and GW was always struggling with the limited storage. The idea to sell it in the shop is piss poor.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: *** (3/5)
Channels people to do something together, but the rewards suck and are basically the equipment packs and nothing else. The balance of points given for certain quests is also way off, and this quest is just a reward to roll new pvp chars and do the same HB/RA/TA/HA thing over and over. And people will not do it because they think the quests themselves are so much fun, but for a silly bag. Again, add some better Zaishen Rewards and not bags as the ultimate goal for gods sake.

Zaishen Coins: ** (2/5)
Token System that works, but lacks proper rewards and as I already mentioned, the balance of the quests and the coins you get for them and the number of coins needed for the only worthwhile stuff, the bags, is out of whack.

Zaishen Menagerie: **** (4/5)
Best idea ever. Makes it easier to equip heroes with pets, the general gripe is that pets are not that useful on anything but a ranger anyways. I also miss that I cannot invite other players to show them my pet collection.

Nicholas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
Good humored stories, nice lottery, no grind, interesting stuff you can get. Simple and fun idea! Actually, Nicholas has the stuff that the Zaishen Coin traders should offer!

Hall of Monuments: now account wide - NO COMMENT
Seriously, this was so long overdue, what do you expect, 5 stars or what?

New character customisation: *** (3/5)
Pretty on the "macro" side of "micro transactions", but it is pretty optional and the interface is well done. I just do not like the RMT trend in GW.