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Old Apr 28, 2009, 03:15 PM // 15:15   #41
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I agree totally with u Gun but xunlai storage for me will be 1/5 just coz NCsoft really ruined things and i still aint got my free 1 coz of them mucking about with master accounts and s**t like tht

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Old Apr 28, 2009, 03:16 PM // 15:16   #42
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Conclusion:
More than I expected, but pulled off worse than anyone could have imagined (then again, I prepared myself to be let down beyond anyone's wildest dreams.. I was just let down).
So much self inflicted misery... for what? for a game when games are supposed to entertain you?

Go play something else if this is not your cup of tea. And looks pretty obvious to anyone who reads your post that this *is not* your cup of tea.
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 03:20 PM // 15:20   #43
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Zaishen Menagerie: ** (2/5)
I really couldnt care less about this thing. Its nice to not loose your pet for good forever though. They should make it so that you can instand cap your pets again there, so you can change pets all the time. Or am I talking blabla here, and it that already the case?
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Can easily reacquire any pet you add to your zoo


RE: Miscellanious
A lot of you mention skill updates.
What skills are you so anxious to see updated? (That question should probably be another asked in a new thread but I was just wondering)
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 03:34 PM // 15:34   #44
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Quoting Calaval in some places...

Equipment Pack: (3/5)
The purchasable equipment pack is too small and if you want a larger pack for each of your many toons, it will become a chore to obtain.

Xunlai Storage: (3/5)
I would have given it a 5/5, but I'm deducting two points because of the way you have to obtain the free storage pane. I'm one of the unfortunate ones who doesn't remember my NCSoft login and is waiting for support help. Next time, just use the in-game store.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: (5/5)
This has pretty much brought me back to the game.

Zaishen Coins: (4/5)
Great idea and I love the things you can buy with it, would be 5/5 if the storage bug was fixed.

Zaishen Menagerie: (4/5)
I love pets, so I'm there. Deducted one point because the pets you turn in aren't yours (name and all).

Nicolas the Traveler: (5/5)
Finding Nicolas every week adds a little more fun to the game.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: (5/5)
Yep, great.

New character customisation:: (5/5)
I probably won't use it, but it's great that it's available.

Miscellaneous: (5/5)
A great update, once I’m able to add Zaishen Coins to storage I’ll enjoy it all the more!
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 03:39 PM // 15:39   #45
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Equipment Pack: **** (4/5)
I kinda likethe idea that you actually have to WORK for the thing, but would like the option to upgrade them from small all the way up to the 20 slot one.

Xunlai Storage: **** (4/5)
I would have much rather been able to get the free one through the in-game store and there were lots of problems with the NCSoft site.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: **** (4/5)
Excellent addition to the game! It's nice to see a rivival of the community aspect of GW & the quests make for a nice way to break from the grind (unless you're grinding out Z-coins, that is!)

Zaishen Coins: *** (3/5)
Fix the bug & you get another star

Zaishen Menagerie: **** (4/5)
A nice little area that I have very little use for.

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (4/5)
He's a very nice & fun addition to the game. Not being able to farm the crap out of him is a nice feature. Loses 1 star because he should only be collecting collectable drops, not items that can be bought from vendors. (More on that elsewhere!)

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: No rating, don't care.

New character customisation: No Rating, don't care

Miscellanious ***** (5/5)
The ability to arrange your stuff in the HoM is a nice addition - thank you A-net. I don't count the lack of skill updates here because that was an issue with the regular monthly update at the beginning of the month.

Overall - meh, they get a 4.
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 03:45 PM // 15:45   #46
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Hall of Monuments: now account wide: *****(1/5)
This punished players of multiple characters. A player with five legendary guardians now gets the same benefits as a player with one legendary guardian. Because duplicate achievements are canceled out. This really needs to be revisited.
How is this a punishment for players of multiple characters? It was redesigned this way specifically for them.
If anything I'd say you punished yourself by completing every single mission in this game at least 10 times.

Not to mention nobody knows how or what will the Hall of Monument benefits be exactly, the whole thing may be completely useless.
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 03:56 PM // 15:56   #47
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Equipment Pack: *** (3/5)
Anet lost one star for the grind, lost another star for lack of alternative way to obtain these, lost another star for a non cascading system. Gained another star because these are really a great idea/item. Could have been 5/5

Xunlai Storage: *** (3/5)
Star lost due to having to buy these. Another star lost due to far too much cash for just one pane. Third star lost due to the insane hassle it was to get a free one. Star gained because they did give us a free one.

Zaishen Coins: ** (2/5)
Lost star due to yet another item that has to be stored before spent. Lost star due to the bug with storage that should have never been there. Lost star due to no other way to obtain the coins (read spend balth faction). Gained star because there are some nice things to buy such as elite tomes. Lost star due to how much of a grind it is to gain coins to buy these things with only coins.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: *** (3/5)
Lost star for the pissant rewards you get in NM and half the time in HM. Lost a star due to them only being repeating old content. Lost a star for limited number in log. Gained a star for helping to revive grouping...now if they could only make pugs smart.

Zaishen Menagerie: **** (4/5)
This is a great feature and well done but the bug with not being able to recapture some L20 pets (raven, rainbow phoenix) costs them 1 star.

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
Great game design. It's fun, new rewards etc. Good job Anet. (gotta echo what you said here )

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: ***** (5/5)
How it should have always been.

New character customization: *** (3/5)
Lost a star due to not free and no ingame way to get them. Lost a star because the options are not available at core character creation.

Final Score: 28/40 or 3.5/5
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 04:04 PM // 16:04   #48
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The April Update overall have a 5/5 rating from me.

The April Update delivery to its customer gets a 0/5 rating from me. down with micro-transaction!
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 04:04 PM // 16:04   #49
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New character customisation: ** (2/5)
What is this, play for free, get more by paying MMO? After you said it's impossible to change character looks?
um. Duh. They lied, like anyone with a brain said they were. But some people on these forums ate it up. So whenever someone asked why there wasn't a hair stylist, they would get shouted down by the mob "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE ITS IMPOSSIBLE ANET SAID SO."

I hope people view everything that comes out of Anet's mouths with much more skepticism now.
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 04:06 PM // 16:06   #50
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i rate the whole update as a whole a 4/10. the update seems to have been more for arena and them making money than it was for the gamers and community of guild wars. in fact besides looking at a couple things i haven't even played during the fourth year event so far this year because i an dissapointed. the few cool things they added, that don't require real money require grind. it still seems to me like arena is trying to find more ways to make money without adding anything of real value.

to be honest i would rather be paying for expansion packs, even if it took longer to get guild wars 2 out. if we where getting a steady flow of new content through expansion packs up until the release of guild wars 2 i would have been much more satisfied with that. instead it seems we are going to get very little real new content for years leading up to guild wars 2. how many gamers are going to be interested in guild wars 2 when they see that guild wars went 2 or 3 years without any real new content? i am losing interest in guild wars 2 more each day that goes by because guild wars isn't getting anything to hold my attention because there is no real new content. and most of my friends and guild members feel the same way.
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 04:20 PM // 16:20   #51
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I am generally satisified with the content of the update, but not satisfied with the price.

It is beyond reason that a simple name change or gender change should exceed $5. Moreover, the extra storage tabs shouldn't exceed $5 either, as they are less than half the space than an additional charecter.

I have already paid more than $100 for my chapters and additional slots. These services are just too much money.
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 04:23 PM // 16:23   #52
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Equipment Pack: **** (4/5)
Great addition, but in agreement with many; it's a chore to get the bigger one as opposed to the merchant one.

Xunlai Storage: ***** (5/5)
I have little use for extra storage, but the free pane was still a nice addition. I have no issues with the rest being available in the online store.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: ***** (5/5)
While the content is not exactly new, it does provide something to do on a daily basis. It has given new reason to PUG in some areas, opened the door to get more players into PvP, and it's just a nice change of pace.

Zaishen Coins: *** (3/5)
Wasn't exactly giddy with excitement over the rewards.

Zaishen Menagerie: ***** (5/5)
I've no use for it, but I see nothing wrong with it.

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
Free gifts and fun gifts at that? Sweet.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: **- (2.5/5)
No use for it, but yay that it's here nonetheless? It loses stars for me because HoM doesn't allow me to pick and choose what armors/weapons I'd like to submit. I'm sorry, but my favorite armors and weapons, the ones that mean something to my characters, aren't destoryer weapons and aren't full elite sets. "Sonata" requires a mishmash of armor from multiple sets to provide the image she needs to portray the character. Her Rose Focus is another huge part of her character. Not being able to add that is problematic to me. I'm sure it's not an issue for most, but it is for me. It's probably the biggest reason why I never visit the place. If HoM ever becomes more flexible I'll be more happy about it and perhaps use it.


New character customisation: **- (2.5/5)
This is one of my biggest issues. I think Anet missed an opportunity here to find middle ground. That middle ground being a cross between a gold-sink and bringing in income. I felt small changes, such as hair color, or hair style, should have been high priced gold and plat sinks while making larger changes, such as faces, names changes, etc; tied the online store the way it is now.

While I have no real use for the make overs, if small things like hair color were tied to plat (say 5K) I'd be more willing to sink the investment.

Miscellanious **** (4/5)
Overall I'm impressed and the hard work shows. Some disappointments in certain areas, but at the same time I never expected perfection either. As mentioned by others, there's still some bugs I'd like to see addressed.
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 04:56 PM // 16:56   #53
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Equipment Pack: *** (3/5)
This could have some better resoults later. Now othing special.

Xunlai Storage: ** (2/5)
Pay for that ? Sorry Anet, im not to do that. Also one free is joke.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: ***** (5/5)
I love this Zaishen CQ. They give me alot of fun

Zaishen Coins: ** (2/5)
Impossible to storage it. Also the items from it...well i dont like it.

Zaishen Menagerie: **** (4/5)
Hmmm, nice idea. i like it really

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
I love Mysterious Tonics :P

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: ***** (5/5)
Yeap, all know.

New character customisation: * (1/5)
Pay for change hair ? Lolz - please go away.

Miscellanious ** (2/5)
Did they fix the bugs ?
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 04:57 PM // 16:57   #54
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Equipment Pack: ** (2/5)
Only 2 stars because the purchasable equipment pack is very small and bigger packs are unreachable because of the grind involved - can't see the point tbh as we've coped pretty well for the past 4 years.

Xunlai Storage: ** (2/5)
yes, superb that they finally listened to the community and gave us the option of more storage but loose 3 stars coz a) we have to pay for it and b) the NCsoft website and account linkage is just blatant marketing and c) because of the huge account not known and your account is link to a different gw account issues. NCSoft - get it sorted!!!

Zaishen Challenge Quests: *** (3/5)
The changing quests are fair a great stimulus to the game and community. But putting end of dungeon bosses as the Bounty just doesn't warrant the level of rewards available therefore not worth the time for me as a casual player.

Zaishen Coins: * (1/5)
Unneccesary because we already have gold as currency. And the items are way too expensive + the storage bug that should have been spotted during play testing.

Zaishen Menagerie: ***** (5/5)
At last, the ability to swap and change pets - as a Ranger primary this is like heaven on earth!!

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
Great fun, and superbly implimented!!

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: ***** (5/5)
Again, listened to the community and gave us what we wanted. Good Job!

New character customisation: ** (2/5)
Also features that the players were asking for since almost day 1. They loose 3 stars because they're not free, and there is absolutely no excuse for missing the armour bug in play testing - that is laughable.

Miscellanious ***** (5/5)
Thought I'd just give you 5 here coz I love GW and have gotten so much enjoyment from the game over the past nearly 4 years. Roll on GW2

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Old Apr 28, 2009, 05:01 PM // 17:01   #55
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Equipment Pack: *** (3/5)
Could have been more cheaper/less grindy. Looks like I'll just keep using storage to hold all my armor in

Xunlai Storage: **** (4/5)
I'm not planning to buy more tabs, but it was a great idea.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: *****(5/5)
Yay for pugging again ^^ and playing the game with friends also.

Zaishen Coins: *** (3/5)
They just take up space in my invt atm.

Zaishen Menagerie: ***** (5/5)
I LOVE THIS! I love animals and I love seeing them all in one place It's so pretty and layout is awesome.

Nicolas the Traveler: **** (4/5)
Hes pretty cool. not crazy about him, but he's a nice addition.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: ***** (5/5)
About time.

New character customisation:: ***** (5/5)
Totally got to redo my ele and I love it. GG here anet.

Miscellaneous: **** (4/5)
Fix the remaining bugs, other then that, yay
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 05:35 PM // 17:35   #56
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Equipment Pack: ** (2/5)
There's no reason for them to have been so grind dependent. I love the idea, and the way they work, but they should be available without having to spend several months working for them becuase of some new currency idea.

Xunlai Storage: **** (4/5)
Love the Free pane (thank you Arenanet! ), and it seems like we got exactly as we asked for with it. The only downside is that the panes seems a bit steep in terms of cost.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: **** (4/5)
I like the idea, but using them as a way to grind for Z-Coins just lowers them a peg in my eyes..

Zaishen Coins: * (1/5)
Hate them. I like the options they give you, but it takes so many of them to get anything that they're just way out of balance compared with what GW is supposed to be.

Zaishen Menagerie: ***** (5/5)
I like it. The only thing that would be nice is if you could take friends in with you, but I can sort of see why they had to keep that from happening.

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
Havn't used him but I'm looking forward to it.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: ***** (5/5)
"A long awaited feature and it finally arrived[!]" Thanks!

New character customisation: ***(3/5)
I love the option, I've been an advocate of it for a while. But for goodness sakes, why couldn't the hair options have had an ingame cost? (never going to use this, so I give a 3/5 because of the way it was implemented)

Miscellaneous**** (4/5)
Everything else seems okay (not sure what else there is??)

33 out of 45 stars, 3.6 out of 5 overall. Great update, love the stuff. But the additional grind elements, as far as the EQpacks, and also the micro-transactions let it down.
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 06:05 PM // 18:05   #57
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Equipment Pack: **** (5/5)
I am saving up for the big one. Great idea to have these added.

Xunlai Storage: *** (1/5)
I give it a 1 just because they could have just given everyone a free pane or figure out a different way to give them to us rather than the totally F'ed up NCSoft account Bullspit way. Totally peeved about this

Zaishen Challenge Quests: **** (5/5)
Great addition. This type of thing is what I expected from Guild Wars from day one. Its what I thought the whole idea of streaming media was about, that they could add new content more frequently. Anyways, this is a great addition and I PRAY that GW2 has something similar, something that will change every week.

Zaishen Coins: *** (5/5)
I see no problem with this. Should also make them unsellable and un tradable. There is plenty of other stuff in this game to sell, we don't need yet another item to skyrocket in price and be unreachable. You want the prizes the coins offer? Then get you a$$ out there and work for them yourself. Love it that way.

Zaishen Menagerie: **** (2/5)
Maybe I am dumb but this place is confusing to me. If I take in a pet of low level and talk to the main person, they take that pet and I have to recharm to get it back? Confused and probably just won't use this feature, but I am sure its a great addition to rangers and pet owners.

Nicolas the Traveler: ***** (5/5)
Great game design, great idea. It's fun, new rewards etc. Good job Anet. We should have had something like this a long time ago. This is another type of feature I am hoping for in GW2. Love it.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: **** (5/5)
Great, fine, whatever. Not really all that important to me.

New character customisation: **** (5/5)
The feature that the players were asking for. So what if its not free, I am sure its not all that easy code-wise to make this happen, so pony up the money if you really want it that bad.
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 06:19 PM // 18:19   #58
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Equipment Pack: (4.5/5)
Will love having the 20 slot pack once I get it. Seems it will be a bit of a grind to obtain, but I think it will be worth it. Anything worth having isn't free.

Xunlai Storage: (4/5)
Love the free pane. Don't like the price of additional panes and therefore won't buy them. I'll buy additional character slots as needed for the storage as I have already done in the past. It's not Guild Wars fault that NCsoft was not prepared to handle this and the update from City of Heroes (?) at the same time. It's also not their fault that you (and I, too) could not remember the name of our NCsoft account that many had previously set up, if we had ever used the in-game store. I used their support ticket and had my problem resolved in less than 36 hours.

Zaishen Challenge Quests: (4.5/5)
Not a bad idea. Would have liked them to have new quests tho.

Zaishen Coins: (N/A)
Haven't made up my mind on this year, so not rating. Seems to be a new form of currency being given as a reward to repeat things you've likely already done at least once. Might cause a "market crash" for things like elite tomes and zkeys which can be obtained through trading with these "merchants" that never were obtainable that way before.

Zaishen Menagerie: (N/A)
Haven't used it, so again I'm going to refrain from rating.

Nicolas the Traveler: (5/5)
Used him twice now on two accounts. Very nice new addition and so far haven't had to "grind" for the items he's collecting.

Hall of Monuments: now account wide: (5/5)
Everyone's wanted this for some time now. Glad it's finally here, although most of my achievements were done on a single character. Think this is a great idea.

New character customisation: (5/5)
Love having the option. There was a time when I wished I had made my main character female, but at that time he had already beaten the games and was obtaining many of the titles so I wouldn't remake him. Now there is the option, with a price of course, but I love him the way he is now and won't be changing him, ever.

Miscellaneous (N/A)
What other?

Overall not a bad update. Players in the community got many things they wanted, some at a cost of real money, but hey, they put a lot of real time and real money into creating these things that were not in the game as it came in the box and that the community wanted. You don't like the price? Then it's simple don't buy the stuff because apparently you didn't want it that bad afterall.

One thing I've noticed around here - They give you what you want you cry about it (for one reason or another), they don't give you what you want you cry about it ... anyone need a Kleenex?

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Old Apr 28, 2009, 06:21 PM // 18:21   #59
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Equipment Pack 3/5
Great idea, awesome for my warrior since I have 4 sets of armor and needed a place to keep it, but due to the high cost and grind of the good ones seems like it will take forever to get for the casual player.

Xunlai Storage 3/5
Great idea with the free pane. A huge hassle to get though but worth it. Pricing is a bit much for me.

Zaishen Managerie 3/5
Cool idea, haven't really had a chance to utilize it yet but seems like a neat idea. Not real keen on it though since it's not really something I'd use much.

Zaishen Challenge Quest 5/5
Love them, they are a lot of fun to do and keep me semi-interested. Plus it helps with the grind towards some titles. (Guardian/Protector)

Zaishen Coins 3/5
Kind of a neat idea, but with the storage issue it makes it hard to accumulate them at the moment. Once that is fixed it would be 4/5. The amount of coins needed for things do not always equal what you can get.

Nicholas the Traveler 5/5
Awesome, I love going and finding him plus you get stuff to work towards sweet tooth, party animal, drunkard titles.

Hall of Monuments Account Wide 5/5
Been waiting for this. Awesome.

New Character Customization 3/5
Good idea but the prices seem a little too high for what you are getting in return.

Miscellaneous 4/5
Besides some minor bugs with the update everything seemed pretty good.

Over all: 31 out of 45, 3.44 out of 5
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Old Apr 28, 2009, 06:29 PM // 18:29   #60
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All GW players have wanted more Storage/Character Customization, but making us pay for it was lame, (1/5) turning your game into a Cash shop with no new content is a step in the wrong direction, not the gamers fault you are taking forever to release GW2, this update is an example of a dev strap for cash and making the loyal fans pay extra when it's not needed......you won't see a dime from me only for GW2, and if you turn that in a CS game then i am done with ANET.
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