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Esan · Jan 26, 2008, 10:12 AM // 10:12

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

[W]hy would they get anywhere near the implementation stage? [...] They wouldn't be finalizing it and putting on the finishing touches to a feature they didn't test fully and were 100% positive they would be adding it.

You have no way of knowing how far this purported feature is in development. In fact, you don't even have any piece of information that can contradict the hypothesis that Anet is yanking all our chains.

arcanemacabre · Jan 26, 2008, 10:48 AM // 10:48

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Originally Posted by Esan

You have no way of knowing how far this purported feature is in development. In fact, you don't even have any piece of information that can contradict the hypothesis that Anet is yanking all our chains.

The most obvious and likely thing going on here is that this Xunlai Market is real, it has been worked on recently, and it has undergone enough testing to be moving into the final stages of development. Of course, it is possible that they did a little testing, assumed it would work, started to work on localization when they realized a huge problem with it and ditched the whole thing a month or two ago hoping no one would notice. It is also possible that they threw in a bunch of random clues to some trade system they never intended on implementing in hopes that people would snoop around the .dat file and find it, go in a frenzy on forums with high hopes, only to have them dashed by Gaile or whoever, laughing the whole time.

Sure, those two events are possible... but unlikely given the evidence. Thus, my point.

Fril Estelin · Jan 26, 2008, 12:40 PM // 12:40

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Of course, it is possible that they did a little testing, assumed it would work, started to work on localization when they realized a huge problem with it and ditched the whole thing a month or two ago hoping no one would notice.

Very unlikely: they would have removed unnecessary stuff from the dat file, so as to spare the servers transferring this to all clients (it may be a few Ks, but it's time tens of thousands).

TheLichMonky · Jan 26, 2008, 12:44 PM // 12:44

Rumors kill brain cellls

DarkWasp · Jan 26, 2008, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Im just excited to know that they didn't go all the way through GW1 without even trying.

[riVen] · Jan 26, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Very unlikely: they would have removed unnecessary stuff from the dat file, so as to spare the servers transferring this to all clients (it may be a few Ks, but it's time tens of thousands).

Wrong, there's TONS of 'unnecessary' stuff in the dat file.

Holly Herro · Jan 26, 2008, 03:58 PM // 15:58

Sounds too good to be rtue =]

It COULD be happening. I hope it is actually

But, why didn't they start earlier?

Personette · Jan 26, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

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Originally Posted by DarkWasp

Im just excited to know that they didn't go all the way through GW1 without even trying.

This is my feeling as well.

DarkWasp · Jan 27, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by Holly Herro

But, why didn't they start earlier?

It better be a good reason, or I might just have to fly over there and tell em what I think.

MithranArkanere · Jan 27, 2008, 04:38 AM // 04:38

Maybe they needed to remove the districcts frontiers and boundaries firsts, and there where legal issues against that...

Maybe the market uses a single server, to save resources, nad they would have to use various servers before removing the separations.

It's logical. If you are setting a system that uses few resources, like a forum board you won't use multiple machines, just one.

Sora267 · Jan 27, 2008, 05:06 AM // 05:06

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Maybe they needed to remove the districcts frontiers and boundaries firsts, and there where legal issues against that...

Maybe the market uses a single server, to save resources, nad they would have to use various servers before removing the separations.

It's logical. If you are setting a system that uses few resources, like a forum board you won't use multiple machines, just one.

It would also be easier to sell things if there were more people able to buy them.

scrinner · Jan 27, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27

The Latest Idea on why it hasn't been implemented is actually rather intriguing. The fact is we have two ideas and they all point to the marketplace being released sometime next month now (Late february).

The Canthan New Year AND The Fact that Japanese/Korean Districts will be dissolved by then. All users sharing one marketplace is definately going to help promote marketplace usage.

-Loki- · Jan 27, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Not saying it isn't possible, just saying that scrapping this idea as far as they have gotten with it is highly unlikely, and that there is proof this feature was worked on within the last 3 months. Both of those facts point to a very high probability that they are still working on it, and it is not scrapped.

Kind of like when Phinney said, a few weeks before Factions release, that Factions would have a Guild Vault? He wouldn't have said that, that close to release, if it wasn't already implemented and undergoing testing. The fact that it's not in game means it was scrapped.

RedNova88 · Jan 27, 2008, 06:59 AM // 06:59

In any case here is to hoping. Would be so cool to have something like that since many people as well as myself don't have time to sit in town spamming all day and night.

pumpkin pie · Jan 27, 2008, 07:31 AM // 07:31

a market place, which fix pricing on stuffs and a need to registers your characters with the market place npc will potentially be the end of bots and un-wanted gold sellers.

every trade have to be done using your registered character.

zwei2stein · Jan 27, 2008, 08:47 AM // 08:47

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Originally Posted by Holly Herro

But, why didn't they start earlier?

Anet was always behind schedulle and had trouble delivering standart content on time.

I guess they didnt want to tie up resources they already missed on new feature that potentially consumed hundreds of mandays.

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

a market place, which fix pricing on stuffs and a need to registers your characters with the market place npc will potentially be the end of bots and un-wanted gold sellers.

every trade have to be done using your registered character.

Huh? So what, botter will register his characters for sales if he wants to use marketplace, but they would trade face to face.

Only thing hurting botters is fact it seems that unids are unsellable in marketplace.

arcanemacabre · Jan 27, 2008, 09:48 AM // 09:48

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

Kind of like when Phinney said, a few weeks before Factions release, that Factions would have a Guild Vault? He wouldn't have said that, that close to release, if it wasn't already implemented and undergoing testing. The fact that it's not in game means it was scrapped.

That's a little different, since saying something and actually doing it are different things. I'm not sure of the quote, though, so maybe you could point to it. Even if it was said, likely they really were wanting to add one, but then when beginning to work on it, saw that it wouldn't work, so they didn't. This feature has already been designed, gone into testing phase, and then into finalization. We have no way of knowing how far, if at all, the 'guild vault' got.

Esan · Jan 27, 2008, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

This feature has already been designed, gone into testing phase, and then into finalization.

Stop saying that! You don't know this for a fact. We have had more than enough dashed hopes with Guild Wars; we don't need another hype bubble.

pumpkin pie · Jan 27, 2008, 09:56 AM // 09:56

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Anet was always behind schedulle and had trouble delivering standart content on time.

I guess they didnt want to tie up resources they already missed on new feature that potentially consumed hundreds of mandays.

Huh? So what, botter will register his characters for sales if he wants to use marketplace, but they would trade face to face.

Only thing hurting botters is fact it seems that unids are unsellable in marketplace.

marketplace will be the only place that you can trade, register with you real life identification with Term and condition.

-Loki- · Jan 27, 2008, 10:08 AM // 10:08

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

That's a little different, since saying something and actually doing it are different things. I'm not sure of the quote, though, so maybe you could point to it.

have fun. If you don't want to click on it.

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Originally Posted by James Phinney in GS article

Important services, such as a Xunlai storage agent and a priest of Balthazar, will be moderately priced, while other, more esoteric services will be priced as luxuries. Among the most anticipated, I'm sure, will be a vault keeper who maintains storage space for the whole guild. This is an entirely new feature that we're adding soon after the release of Factions.