Curse

bhavv · May 05, 2009, 01:13 PM // 13:13

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Originally Posted by glacialphoenix

*patpat.
This is why I PUG on my monk, and I don't PUG missions like Divinity Coast.

Also, things I have learnt: if a team really wants HB healer + LS protter, take the LS protter. Trying to keep up the whole team vs Argo when the prot isn't doing well is insane.

EDIT: ...okay, at least I made it through on my monk. I go on my ele, and the team wipes before I finish, say, four spells on a 40/40 set.

LS protter is what I played -

Patient Spirit, LS, D Kiss, Prot Spirit, SoA, Shielding hands, rest is optional.

It made rotscale easy peasy, of course with the HB or UA healer as well.

But when I go on my elly, every team just picks up any two monks, or in one team they thought one monk was fine. They had like three party wipes in the area outside druids overlook and I just left.

So I attempted to try the H/H rotscale build from ToA with an Ether Prism healer build, but I get pwned by fire imps ... Shield Gaurdian + Spirit Bond or Heal Party elly spammer just didnt work on Imps along with a bonder hero and Alesia.

But I will try again now with E/Rt instead, good thing that the quest stays active after you can no longer get it. I dont think I can use Life Barrier because Scribes Insight is needed to maintain Protective Bond on the two rotscale killing SS / SV necros

Bug John · May 05, 2009, 01:25 PM // 13:25

tried to pug rotscale yesterday (trying to help people as I had already vanquished the areas and knew the spawns), and all I got was several party wipes and an idiot stealing the gold drop I had (I won't waste my time picking up anything until all ennemies are dead) and immediately disconnecting

seriously, for something worth 300g... there are too many ***** playing this game

I'll never pug again, picked up my usual heroes and completed the quest alone

Redvex · May 05, 2009, 01:29 PM // 13:29

Duo Monk with grenth balance to kill Rotscale.
Permasin for the run.
Done in ~10 min

Dark-NighT · May 05, 2009, 02:07 PM // 14:07

I love to do them, especially the missions, since pugging works a load better than hero/henchway in some missions.

Yesterday was Boreas seabed, and with a random pug we did it in hm in just 9 minutes, i can hero those annoying missions if i want to, but pugs are way more fun and a hell of a lot faster.

For instance, i cant wait till we get Gyala Hatchery on the list, a painfull and stupid mission, especially with henchies, but with a pug it might be a lot better to do.

papryk · May 05, 2009, 02:42 PM // 14:42

<3 HA quest and GvG quests
stacks of coins ftw

glacialphoenix · May 05, 2009, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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But when I go on my elly, every team just picks up any two monks, or in one team they thought one monk was fine. They had like three party wipes in the area outside druids overlook and I just left.

EXACTLY. It's like -

Me: Hi.
General People In PUG: Hi.
<Non monk person joins, party is now at 7/8>
Leader: Uh, I wonder if we can do this with one monk?
Me: No. You can't - seen the damage Argo does without prot spirit? It's OK, I'm 6/8, I'll leave.

Rinse and repeat.

Even with two monks, it's pretty bad, and Togo has something to say about this:

:P

I do admit I enjoy the PUGging again, but - I think I'll stick to PUGging on my monk.

Lonesamurai · May 05, 2009, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by glacialphoenix

EXACTLY. It's like -

Me: Hi.
General People In PUG: Hi.
<Non monk person joins, party is now at 7/8>
Leader: Uh, I wonder if we can do this with one monk?
Me: No. You can't - seen the damage Argo does without prot spirit? It's OK, I'm 6/8, I'll leave.

Rinse and repeat.

Even with two monks, it's pretty bad, and Togo has something to say about this:

:P

I do admit I enjoy the PUGging again, but - I think I'll stick to PUGging on my monk.

Really?

Pain Inverter screwed Argo in his first damage dealing attempt...

and we only had one heal monk and even that had a pet and Unyielding Aura

glacialphoenix · May 05, 2009, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Then you were lucky. Forget Argo, the three teams I tried PUGging with on my ele couldn't even get past Daeman. (Pain Inverter really does work wonders, though. Unfortunately my ele hasn't got it yet.)

But, eh, oh well, you win some you lose some... after getting frustrated I poked my guildies and we finished it. I think I generally enjoy PUGging when I'm on my monk, but I don't trust Random Person #24601 to heal nowadays. =\

To below: UA is decent these days, yeah. Thing about healing is that enemies do a lot of damage in HM, and with HB and sans Prot Spirit I can't prevent one-hit kills. It's pretty much why I favour WoH hybrid, really.

Abedeus · May 05, 2009, 03:01 PM // 15:01

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

Really?

Pain Inverter screwed Argo in his first damage dealing attempt...

and we only had one heal monk and even that had a pet and Unyielding Aura

Not that funny as it used to be... UA is pretty decent right now.

Lonesamurai · May 05, 2009, 03:04 PM // 15:04

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Not that funny as it used to be... UA is pretty decent right now.

Aye, damn good skill now

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Originally Posted by glacialphoenix

Then you were lucky. Forget Argo, the three teams I tried PUGging with on my ele couldn't even get past Daeman. (Pain Inverter really does work wonders, though. Unfortunately my ele hasn't got it yet.)

But, eh, oh well, you win some you lose some... after getting frustrated I poked my guildies and we finished it. I think I generally enjoy PUGging when I'm on my monk, but I don't trust Random Person #24601 to heal.

Totally agree, Daemon was more of a hassle and nearly party wiped us

Raccoon · May 05, 2009, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I do the easy ones. Too many idiots around to form a decent team for HM missions.

bhavv · May 05, 2009, 03:53 PM // 15:53

I tried to H/H Boreas HM ...

too hard.

Chiyo and Sister Tai are pants in HM, I already have legendary guardian, but I remeber I did Boreas with a guild team.

Daesu · May 05, 2009, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by bhavv

I tried to H/H Boreas HM ...

too hard.

Chiyo and Sister Tai are pants in HM, I already have legendary guardian, but I remeber I did Boreas with a guild team.

The henchies there suck. You can do it easily with 6 heroes. Discordway and 1 BHA (lock her on Argo), 1 healer, 1 nuker.

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Originally Posted by glacialphoenix

Then you were lucky. Forget Argo, the three teams I tried PUGging with on my ele couldn't even get past Daeman. (Pain Inverter really does work wonders, though. Unfortunately my ele hasn't got it yet.)

One trick is to avoid going to the grounds below but run across the bridge to Daeman's gate which will be closed. Attack from the gate. This way, Eli can't get out.

glacialphoenix · May 05, 2009, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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One trick is to avoid going to the grounds below but run across the bridge to Daeman's gate which will be closed. Attack from the gate. This way, Eli can't get out.

I know that trick, did it with the guildies. PUGs however...

cthulhu reborn · May 05, 2009, 05:10 PM // 17:10

I do a couple here and a couple there but at this rate it will take me months to get one haeacy q-pack and with 14 characters I am just generally disheartened with the whole z-coin thing.

BenjZee · May 05, 2009, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Just did riverside and enjoyed it, i usually skip this mission ...that's probably why i've done it once in nearly 4 years

I just had an ultra blonde moment and used wrong trader...instead of tradin in my silver zoins for gold ones i trades my golds for zkeys...ahhh!!!
Oh well atleast ive done the missions and earnt a bit of cash

Apollo Smile · May 05, 2009, 07:44 PM // 19:44

I'm still having nightmares from my Rotscale HM experience yesterday. We beat him, but damn did we have a bad party setup.

stevedallas · May 06, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17

sometimes i dont do any, other times i do them all. it depends on what they're for. i quite like them being available

Daesu · May 06, 2009, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Depending on the quest, the monetary reward can be decent, plus sometimes you get extra factions and stuff too.

Even though I got all the packs I needed with enough gold and other coins left over, some quests are quick and simple enough that it makes sense for me to do it on all my characters.

I especially like the Factions missions because these are quick. Afterall, their bonuses are tied to speed. If I can do it with H/H, I would do it on all my 8 characters (I let my other account tag along so I can kill 2 birds with one stone so to speak), beats waiting for a PUG group.

glacialphoenix · May 06, 2009, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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I usually like the Factions missions because these are quick. Afterall, their bonuses are tied to speed.

And you get more bonuses from them. The Riverside Province reward is crap compared to Boreas or Nahpui.