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NoXiFy · Jun 10, 2009, 12:45 AM // 00:45

So, I recently picked up Too Human for the XBOX360... and immediately saw so many things similar to the Guild Wars series. When you first start you pick from several professions like many RPG's... but what's very interesting is the plot and storyline of Too Human. Maybe I'm just too much of a Guild Wars fanatic to comprehend it, but you start out in the Hall Of Heroes and later learn about the NORN who help you with quests and such. Anyone else notice possible references to Guild Wars in other games? I know I'm somewhat retarded and all because "Hall of heroes" is very loose and can be used for many games, but starting in the hall and learning about how the NORN are going to help you with your quests just seemed like a pretty decent reference. I've only played the game for about 20 minutes so far so I really haven't seen any other references to back this up, just wanted to let everyone know this though as it's somewhat of a fun fact.

Verene · Jun 10, 2009, 12:47 AM // 00:47

Too Human is very heavily based on Norse mythology, which is what the Norns are from originally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norns

Not much to do with GW, except that it also borrows elements from Norse mythology :P

Unreal Havoc · Jun 10, 2009, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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Originally Posted by NoXiFy

So, I recently picked up Too Human for the XBOX360... and immediately saw so many things similar to the Guild Wars series. When you first start you pick from several professions like many RPG's... but what's very interesting is the plot and storyline of Too Human. Maybe I'm just too much of a Guild Wars fanatic to comprehend it, but you start out in the Hall Of Heroes and later learn about the NORN who help you with quests and such. Anyone else notice possible references to Guild Wars in other games? I know I'm somewhat retarded and all because "Hall of heroes" is very loose and can be used for many games, but starting in the hall and learning about how the NORN are going to help you with your quests just seemed like a pretty decent reference. I've only played the game for about 20 minutes so far so I really haven't seen any other references to back this up, just wanted to let everyone know this though as it's somewhat of a fun fact.

I'm finding Sacred 2 more like Guild Wars with stuff like shadowstepping, meteor shower, & whirling defense esque skills.

pumpkin pie · Jun 10, 2009, 02:01 AM // 02:01

its only natural that other game developers wants to be like guild wars. cos its the best

Zinger314 · Jun 10, 2009, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Too Human is Diablo II which copies WoW's item tiers.

Snow Bunny · Jun 10, 2009, 02:05 AM // 02:05

It's very difficult in many aspects to be novel and innovative in game creation recently, what with most themes having been played upon at least a dozen times before you came along.

The Hall of Heroes? May as well look at Fable, the same name is there. If you wanted to get picky you'd say Guild Wars ripped off Diablo2 - Sorceress uses the same elemental tree that Elementalists use.

The similarities are just that - similarities.

Helix Dreadlock · Jun 10, 2009, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Gw is the shit, everyone wants to be like it

konohamaru heaven · Jun 10, 2009, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Too Human is Diablo II which copies WoW's item tiers.

Techniquely wouldn't it be WoW copies Diablo II since it came before Wow :P. Anyway nothing to see here move along =^_^=.

DarklingKiller · Jun 10, 2009, 06:35 AM // 06:35

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

its only natural that other game developers wants to be like guild wars. cos its the best

GW isn't the best. Atleast, it isn't the best anymore. People are leaving the game due to lack of content while WoW introduces expansion packs every so often and is still going strong.

Not saying that I support WoW, just face the facts.

Braxton619 · Jun 10, 2009, 06:49 AM // 06:49

The only reason why WoW is still popular... they charge 15 bucks for a stupid game per month... and they got 50,000+ bad programmers... WoWs graphics are veeerrrry corny and GW is the best... plus ANET has only like 150 employees so I say ANET is doing a great job with 100 people on team

Azadaleou · Jun 10, 2009, 08:48 AM // 08:48

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Originally Posted by Leet Tankur

The only reason why WoW is still popular... they charge 15 bucks for a stupid game per month... and they got 50,000+ bad programmers... WoWs graphics are veeerrrry corny and GW is the best... plus ANET has only like 150 employees so I say ANET is doing a great job with 100 people on team

Its a very different game. I think WoW graphics are ok. The animations for the characters and such are pretty good though. But yeah, its a bit outdated and GW looks better.

WoW feels more like a job, especially end game when you raid. But so does every mmorpg. GW is a bit different because it doesn't feel like a secondary job. When I login it feels like I'm there to play. Not there to grind or spend hours in a raid instance.

I didn't even know ANET consisted of only 150 people. That's amazing. GW content, skill and bug fix updates are pretty much unrivaled. WoW on the other hand gives a lot of crappy updates that makes you wonder what the devs are smoking.

Mordakai · Jun 10, 2009, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by DarklingKiller

GW isn't the best. Atleast, it isn't the best anymore. People are leaving the game due to lack of content while WoW introduces expansion packs every so often and is still going strong.

Not saying that I support WoW, just face the facts.

Best does not equal popular.

High school proves that.

Rocky Raccoon · Jun 10, 2009, 07:01 PM // 19:01

In Perfect World one of the quests is to go kill the Charr Boss who looks very similar to charr we know and love.

Pistachio · Jun 11, 2009, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Best does not equal popular.

High school proves that.

So very true.

fenix · Jun 11, 2009, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Mordakai speaks the truth.

Cale Roughstar · Jun 11, 2009, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Best does not equal popular.

High school proves that.

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Azadaleou · Jun 11, 2009, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by DarklingKiller

GW isn't the best. Atleast, it isn't the best anymore. People are leaving the game due to lack of content while WoW introduces expansion packs every so often and is still going strong.

Not saying that I support WoW, just face the facts.

WoW content is very different than that of GW. To a degree its more, but from another perspective its much less. Overall it could be said that it has more, I'm speaking from things available from lvl 1-80. But once you hit lvl 80 a mass majority of that content disappears since it becomes useless to you.

One problem WoW has is end game content, its absolutely horrible. Sure they release a new raid zone every 6 months or so. But most guilds clear the raid within the first month. So what happens is that for the next 4 months or so you have inactive members who are bored with the game because they have farmed out the new raid.

I think content could stay fresh in WoW if you could play the game from the perspective of a different class. But thats not realistic for most people since it takes time to level up another toon to 80 and gear them out to make them raid suitable. One thing I like about GW is that its so easy to start a different pve character. It makes the game much different and refreshing.

Valcion · Jun 11, 2009, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Meh, GW is getting boring for me. Most of it is that I can't find a good, "casual" guild that does dungeons/elite areas w/o me getting kicked for a 3 day inactivity. Despite the large amount of end game content, I think I only did about 10% of it, which is pretty sad. I do believe this applies for many people as well.

On the graphics end, I feel GW has this simple, yet very elegant and eye pleasing feel to it. It's something I hope they keep for GW2.

pumpkin pie · Jun 11, 2009, 03:20 AM // 03:20

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Originally Posted by DarklingKiller

GW isn't the best. Atleast, it isn't the best anymore. People are leaving the game due to lack of content while WoW introduces expansion packs every so often and is still going strong.

Not saying that I support WoW, just face the facts.

Traitor!!

Lyphen · Jun 11, 2009, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Anyways, getting back on topic, the Hall of Heroes, is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla .
Norn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norns .

Nothing is taken from Guild Wars, they're just borrowing from the same source, Norse myth. And Too Human's tie should be obvious, because....well, the whole game is a bastardization of norse mythology.

Get educated, and start reading ancient mythology. You'll find that a ton of games borrow from them.