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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:29 AM // 06:29   #41
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:29 AM // 06:29   #42
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Sometimes guild just want their people to have, ... hmm ... class.

The fact that swear'n'caps happy member gets em pissed off does not mean they are pussies that can't handle swearing. Its just means they do not want whiny, shouty, sweary kids around.
It's just text in a chatbox IMO.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:30 AM // 06:30   #43
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Personally, for me, there isn't a word on earth that offends me, what offends me is the intend of the word, so I could care less if someone was swearing in chat as long as it wasn't abusive. However, the guild I'm in has very strict rules about chat. Keep it clean. So I do (although I swear up a storm in vent and team chat). Really though, in the bigger picture I don't mind the 'no swear rules' simply because I don't find it necessary to swear to make myself understood or to express my excitment or disappointment over something.

I have an 11 year old son who uses my account and when he does, I turn on the filter. It's not a big deal anyway, I'm no angel and he hears me swear, I'm more worried about racist spewing that happens on occassion.

Anyway, to the OP, instead of bitching and causing problems, ask about guild rules before you join, ask about things that are important to you like being able to swear in chat. I recruited someone today and was very upfront about swearing in chat and he was cool with it. He liked that.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:30 AM // 06:30   #44
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I come from a guild and alliance where we do not prefer using cursing in our chat because it can be offensive to others. Just because the box says 14+ doesn't mean that language magically becomes "legal". If you read what the ratings are actually for, they are made for the content created by the ArenaNet staff themselves, these being alcohol, violence, and mild suggestive themes. Most games have a "ONLINE ACTIONS NOT RATED." because ArenaNet doesn't want to be held liable for some kid's child acting irresponsible over the 'net for listening to crude language and a plethora of other reasons.

I am fine with language myself, but I am just trying to defend guilds with certain regulations such as my own. Avoiding using cursing really is not that difficult, because what's great about typing is you get to think about it and you have the benefit of the backspace key. You could have portrayed the exact same amount of emotion of happiness without using the F Bomb, therefore is it really necessary to have said it? Also, language is a reportable offense, so it's best to just take the safe route and avoid future problems.

Good luck with finding a new guild if I am assuming that is what you are doing. Hopefully what I've said here isn't flameworthy or derives argument, but just another standpoint on the view as that is all I am offering.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:33 AM // 06:33   #45
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Ugh, god yes. I hate alliances that claim they are 'laid back and fun', but then rage when someone says a potty word. :x So what? I hear people cursing on the bus and I deal with it and let me tell you, I wish there was a filter for rl. If some of these guilds and allies were as laid back as they said they were, they wouldnt give two shits if someone dropped a f bomb or what not. And I just lol at the 'my kids play this game' excuse too. Chances are, their children have heard or partaken in the saying of a bad word.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:40 AM // 06:40   #46
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ITT: Big boys using big words.

I don't think that the "cuss word" was the problem anyway - it's all the drama that BOTH sides caused.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:44 AM // 06:44   #47
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Oh, lookie who posted but had his post mysteriously disappearing and re-appearing <_<

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well I happen to be in this alliance and I know that these are the basic rules
It's true that u may not know at first but u get warned about it
It really should not be that big of a deal to u
But I'm really not leaning to ur side
In reality, it isn't a big deal to me?
A situation is only officially a certain way usually because of how someone in power depicts it. Like-wise, a simple discussion or debate can be portrayed as a violent argument over the internet because of how a single person depicts it. And because that person takes initiative, others follow.

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If these are the rules and u don't like it then this guild isn't the right one for u
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Btw u were a bit of a jerk about this incident
Wait, what? I was not a jerk until this thread. Portrayed myself as argumentive, yes. But had I not been insulted afterwards, the last straw to make a rant on guilds and swearing in general wouldn't of been made.


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Plus u joined my guild to learn a stygian farm and left to an allied guild right after
Assumptions, assumptions. Why, when an active youtube user such as myself can just youtube it?
Also, joining an alliance guild when not comfortable in yours is a bad thing? Your rules are yours bro. But they're also your responsibility. It was kind of dumb in general to put someone down for not following an uspoken rule and /rageignoring like most pugs do while continuing to nag them 0_o

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Which is also against rules unless it's ok with the leaders
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All I can say is that u left a good guild
Which just simply is not a guild for me.

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Ur the type of person who overreacts about a simple rule in an alliance and turns into something major which ruins other peoples experiences
Overreact? Hardly. Though trolling? Perhaps a bit. But this is an excuse for a question that's been in GW long before your alliance was made.


Anyways, I must thank you for posting in this thread and sharing your opinion and stepping in the spotlight as a typical guild member in this situation to be a punchbag example.


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Now if you excuse me, I'm going to go smoke imaginary weed because I'm wrong and other people are always right


@aoeclald:
That's not flameworthy at all. That's an informational, detailed post, of someone who just plain prefers not to have swearing in a guild, and has a backed up argument in the situation of debate. I don't have the same opinion, but I will give you kudos for that.

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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:44 AM // 06:44   #48
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gotta say i lol'd that guild was way too serious about something like that... i mean...
WHY SO SERIOUS?!
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:50 AM // 06:50   #49
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Oh I've experienced this exact problem though taken up several notches in a pretty big alliance... basically whenever people started to have a discussion ,even WITHOUT swearing, they policed the chat and told everybody to basically STFU unless it was so G rated babies would approve of it. That and they would come at you in private chat. Same "some of us have children playing this" BS too... yeah, like it really is going to matter. "Oh no, they saw some drama online!"... the same parents who let their kids play 360 where if they win some 8 year old/immature 20's person will have every other word be a swear over chat. And another thing, if it is "so bad", why not have them play at all?

I think I was in that guild too. I recognize SPL. Not sure if the story above was them but probably was. Good riddance is all I can say.

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Old Jun 18, 2009, 06:55 AM // 06:55   #50
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Also, language is a reportable offense
No, it's not. Verbal abuse is a reportable offense, language isn't. You can't report someone for saying 'oh yeah that was f***ing sweet!'. You can report someone for saying 'you're a f***ing idiot'. If you weren't allowed to swear in Guild Wars, they'd force the filter, which they don't.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 07:00 AM // 07:00   #51
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i love the fact that your all saying swearing isnt a big deal, and even the mods are saying how it isnt a big deal. yet... the word F**k is censored on here. why is that exactly?

and chrisworld, i'm suprised your enjoying this so much after all the QQi'ng you did on the old gameamp forums about people and their use of 'internet words' against you.

basically, OP is a bad troll with nothing better to do that try and be some crusader who wants to go out and find 'bad guilds'. well done, you must have a very exciting time playing GW.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 07:01 AM // 07:01   #52
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No, it's not. Verbal abuse is a reportable offense, language isn't. You can't report someone for saying 'oh yeah that was f***ing sweet!'. You can report someone for saying 'you're a f***ing idiot'. If you weren't allowed to swear in Guild Wars, they'd force the filter, which they don't.
Yep. Anybody who reports this crap should have a period of time where they CANNOT disable the chat filter. That would be so funny.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 07:16 AM // 07:16   #53
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I'm Kain FZ from GWG's "To catch a bad guild" and we're doing a report on bad guilds that try to recruit people for "members"
I noticed you said something similar in the screenshots. Why invoke GWG? Feeling insecure about acting like an ass on your own account?
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 07:17 AM // 07:17   #54
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Dude, U must be an American! Serious every American in this game needs attention and is trying to be leet. Is it becoz u are pathetic in real life? serious man, this thread is so pointless. why u don't leave the guild, we don't care about this. coz it ain't truth!I only bin in 1 guild were i couldn't swear. and it was a guild full of americans. :/ Puzzies..


Post like this again, you will be banned.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 07:29 AM // 07:29   #55
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i love the fact that your all saying swearing isnt a big deal, and even the mods are saying how it isnt a big deal. yet... the word F**k is censored on here. why is that exactly?
Ask Inde. I honestly don't care so long as it's not used to absurdity, but that's the way the forum is.
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I noticed you said something similar in the screenshots. Why invoke GWG? Feeling insecure about acting like an ass on your own account?
Got any better substitutes for dateline NBC?


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basically, OP is a bad troll with nothing better to do that try and be some crusader who wants to go out and find 'bad guilds'. well done, you must have a very exciting time playing GW.
What else until gw2 after enduring the game for 4 years of always being "I'm sorry!" or "Ok, ok! Won't happen again! I'm sorrrrrryyy!!!", and tons of other ass kissing to try and gain forgiveness? :P



About the fu(k censor:
Probably the same reason Wapanese was censored on 4chan.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 07:32 AM // 07:32   #57
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Oh I've experienced this exact problem though taken up several notches in a pretty big alliance... basically whenever people started to have a discussion ,even WITHOUT swearing, they policed the chat and told everybody to basically STFU unless it was so G rated babies would approve of it. That and they would come at you in private chat. Same "some of us have children playing this" BS too... yeah, like it really is going to matter. "Oh no, they saw some drama online!"... the same parents who let their kids play 360 where if they win some 8 year old/immature 20's person will have every other word be a swear over chat. And another thing, if it is "so bad", why not have them play at all?

I think I was in that guild too. I recognize SPL. Not sure if the story above was them but probably was. Good riddance is all I can say.
Been in many such alliances myself. One had a rule saying 'no more than 3 recruitment messages for making a group', yet officers in the leading guild would continuously spam alliance chat looking for more ursan players with many more than 10 messages. Then everysingle thing that normal members tried to discuss was heavilly policed to the point where we were threatened with being kicked if we didnt STFU and stop typing, eventually I got kicked for starting off a 'GW Sux WoW rules' argument as well as opposing the continuous formation of UB groups for everysingle thing in that alliance, not just elite areas but also missions and vanquishes. Oh, I never even had to use profanity, they just hated any discussion in alliance chat that was heated and more than 3 or 4 comments long.
Yes ok, it is their rules, but comeon, like, no discussion allowed at all without being told off even without swearing? They actually went as far as to ban talking about ursan blessing or wow.

Basically, said alliance had a blacklist to immediately remove anyone they didnt like and not to let them back in. Was called Snow.
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Old Jun 18, 2009, 07:35 AM // 07:35   #58
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Basically, said alliance had a blacklist to immediately remove anyone they didnt like and not to let them back in. Was called Snow.
Me remembers being in snow.
It was a good alliance the actual time I was in it. Dunno what happened or why I left. Was a loooong time ago, dude.
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What else until gw2 after enduring the game for 4 years of always being "I'm sorry!" or "Ok, ok! Won't happen again! I'm sorrrrrryyy!!!", and tons of other ass kissing to try and gain forgiveness? :P
get an x-box. left 4 dead is hella fun
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
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