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Old Jun 19, 2009, 10:18 AM // 10:18   #1
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Default What do you guys think about increasing name lengths?

What do you guys think about increasing the characters permitted to create names for characters?

Even by 3-4-5 characters, it would help people like me be able to make good names for there characters and could increase diversity and uniqueness among names, and i doubt it would contribute detrimentally to lag issues?

Let me get your opinion on it.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 10:27 AM // 10:27   #2
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Uuuuuuumm... no
I've got 13 chars every with unique name and not related to the others (Nereida Goes Monk or Nereida Goes Pvp)

I can think of 2-3 names right now and it's nothing senseles (I Like Muffins, I Shall Spear U etc)

It's all down to creativity I think
Reading books, playing RPG helps a lot though
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 10:37 AM // 10:37   #3
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I've only run into the problem of too many characters in th creation screen once or twice. There's no shortage of creative names that are 19 or fewer characters long jsut waiting for someone's imagination to discover them.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 11:42 AM // 11:42   #4
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Afaik Asians can do it. Down with special treatment!
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 11:51 AM // 11:51   #5
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If you don't think players are making good names now, I fail to see how extra, or even less characters would help.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 12:26 PM // 12:26   #6
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When the naming policy was recently released, we got these 7 rules to obey.

No names that:-
* Have offensive racial, ethnic, or national connotations.
* Reference sexual acts or real life violence.
* Are pornographic.
* Make inappropriate references to human anatomy or bodily functions.
* Reference illegal drugs or activities.
* Reference major religious figures.
* Reference certain real-life people that may cause distress (e.g. Hitler).

I tried to think of a name that breaks all seven rules. I could not think of one that fits in the space we get, we need longer names.

Though I've not doubt just broken another illogical forum rule.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 12:33 PM // 12:33   #7
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I think the only reason for people wanting more space for a name is if they could not work out a way to get the 'phrase' they wanted shortened. Names are not meant to be phrases.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 12:36 PM // 12:36   #8
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I think the only reason for people wanting more space for a name is if they could not work out a way to get the 'phrase' they wanted shortened. Names are not meant to be phrases.
Perhaps they do indeed.

My actual real name that was given to me when I was born wouldn't fit into a character slot name though... so I tend to disagree with the logic of it.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05   #9
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Would I mind it? No, it would stop me having to put "U" instead of "You" into names.

Will it happen? Database size and developer time says no.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 01:08 PM // 13:08   #10
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Many good names are taken, particularly those named after skills, and the only good skill names not taken are too long too fit.

I recently found 3-4 new names that I would love to have, but they don't fit.

I also think not being able to use numbers or punctuaction marks is kind of stupid.

And not all of us like muffins, and not all of our real names fit.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 01:09 PM // 13:09   #11
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I dont' see what the harm could be so I would like it. I have some names where I'd like another space in them.

Pet name is another thing altogether though... way too short.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 01:36 PM // 13:36   #12
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When the naming policy was recently released, we got these 7 rules to obey.

No names that:-
* Have offensive racial, ethnic, or national connotations.
* Reference sexual acts or real life violence.
* Are pornographic.
* Make inappropriate references to human anatomy or bodily functions.
* Reference illegal drugs or activities.
* Reference major religious figures.
* Reference certain real-life people that may cause distress (e.g. Hitler).

I tried to think of a name that breaks all seven rules. I could not think of one that fits in the space we get, we need longer names.

Though I've not doubt just broken another illogical forum rule.
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Pet name is another thing altogether though... way too short.
Agreed. When I got my spider, I wanted to squick out my girlfriend but I didn't have enough spots for "Eggz in ur earz" so I had to go with "Ear eggz". Not nearly as effective.

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Old Jun 19, 2009, 01:56 PM // 13:56   #13
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If you don't think players are making good names now, I fail to see how extra, or even less characters would help.
Think about languages that are more complicated than English. For instance:

Nameless Hero - 13 letters. That's fine. But in Spanish...

Heroe sin un nombre - 19 letters. Hmm. I don't think that's enough. Even if you remove "un" it's 16 letters. Even then it should be "El Heroe", as in "The Hero".

Or Polish - Bezimienny Bohater - 18 letters. Woah.

Don't forget that gaps also count.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 02:12 PM // 14:12   #14
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Uuuuuuumm... no
I've got 13 chars every with unique name and not related to the others (Nereida Goes Monk or Nereida Goes Pvp)

I can think of 2-3 names right now and it's nothing senseles (I Like Muffins, I Shall Spear U etc)

It's all down to creativity I think
Reading books, playing RPG helps a lot though
my names are creative and i read books do rpg too! but i have to limit my creativy thanks to the short amount i can name my girls. >> not everyone that wants a longer name will use it to name their chars something weird like i like muffins.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 02:13 PM // 14:13   #15
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Many good names are taken, particularly those named after skills, and the only good skill names not taken are too long too fit.

I also think not being able to use numbers or punctuaction marks is kind of stupid.
I personally do not consider YoNkErS 2k5 to be a good name at all. OK, this is the forum and not GW. I also think that not allowing numbers or punctuation marks in character names is a good thing. I also wonder if naming a char after a skill is such a good idea or makes for a good name. Or using phrases for names.

The char name limitations they put in the game were just added to stop such names.

But this did not stop people to come up with even worse names and abbreviations, on the other hand.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 02:17 PM // 14:17   #16
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I think the only reason for people wanting more space for a name is if they could not work out a way to get the 'phrase' they wanted shortened.
Or maybe there are names that are longer than the limit.

All of my characters have a Blackthorn surname (not counting some mules). It's simple, I like it, and it's nice to be consistent. But that means I can't choose any first names longer than eight characters. If only I had chosen a shorter surname. I had plans for a character named Cassandra Blackthorn, but that's too long (and I dislike intentionally misspelling the name to fit). I wanted to make a character named Elizabeth... also too long.

That said, while I wouldn't mind a longer character name space, I can't see it changing after four years. Especially since it would probably require some significant database manipuation (increasing the name field for every character for every account? oof).
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 02:18 PM // 14:18   #17
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There's a very large number of things I would prefer that limited dev resources be spent upon. The benefit to the community from this change is very low, especially in comparison to problems such as game balance, bug fixes, etc.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 02:19 PM // 14:19   #18
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Think about languages that are more complicated than English. For instance:

Nameless Hero - 13 letters. That's fine. But in Spanish...

Heroe sin un nombre - 19 letters. Hmm. I don't think that's enough. Even if you remove "un" it's 16 letters. Even then it should be "El Heroe", as in "The Hero".

Or Polish - Bezimienny Bohater - 18 letters. Woah.

Don't forget that gaps also count.
Or Ukranian version os said name

Bez-immenuy Kozak - 17 (i think) or Bez-immenuy Geroi - 17 so yeah i wouldnt mind. and this is after simplification.. without it it would look like this.. Bez-immennuy Geroi Ukrainskogo Narodu.. =)

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Old Jun 19, 2009, 02:27 PM // 14:27   #19
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Think about languages that are more complicated than English. For instance:

Nameless Hero - 13 letters. That's fine. But in Spanish...

Heroe sin un nombre - 19 letters. Hmm. I don't think that's enough. Even if you remove "un" it's 16 letters. Even then it should be "El Heroe", as in "The Hero".

Or Polish - Bezimienny Bohater - 18 letters. Woah.

Don't forget that gaps also count.
Screw letter counts, I would have to make that name

Bezejmenný Hrdina and loose "ý" in favor of "y"

And while we are at it, you can not use those characters in normal chat, but we actually were able to use accents in past.
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Old Jun 19, 2009, 02:39 PM // 14:39   #20
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Always wondered where the got the random 19 characters lol. Should have just made it an even 20.
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