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Old Jun 24, 2009, 06:25 AM // 06:25   #61
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If Glimmer of Light sucks so much maybe they should make it 0 activation time, 0 recharge.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 06:53 AM // 06:53   #62
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If Glimmer of Light sucks so much maybe they should make it 0 activation time, 0 recharge.
totally missing the point. it would still suck after the fact, LOL :P
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 06:59 AM // 06:59   #63
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It doesnt suck, it just isnt as useful as other elites.

It is basically an elite orison of healing with about 1.75x the healing, but other elites simply do a far better job.

I would say that Glimmer of Light is on the same level as Shield of Regeneration and Boon Signet. Yes all of them can work and make decent builds, but other elites are still better.

Healing Burst is better then Glimmer, it heals for more and also does a little AoE healing. Im not sure about this, but do the AoE heals from it benefit from divine favor? If not then it should do.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 07:03 AM // 07:03   #64
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Extinguish. I use it on my MM if he has a free skill lot.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 07:22 AM // 07:22   #65
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Every darn skill in game. Even the Meta skills XD
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 08:37 AM // 08:37   #66
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It doesnt suck, it just isnt as useful as other elites.

It is basically an elite orison of healing with about 1.75x the healing, but other elites simply do a far better job.

I would say that Glimmer of Light is on the same level as Shield of Regeneration and Boon Signet. Yes all of them can work and make decent builds, but other elites are still better.

Healing Burst is better then Glimmer, it heals for more and also does a little AoE healing. Im not sure about this, but do the AoE heals from it benefit from divine favor? If not then it should do.
yeah, skills don't suck, they're just bad relative to all the other skills in the game.

edit: SoR can actually save someone.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 08:41 AM // 08:41   #67
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ahhhh.... an extra 30 Satisfaction extracted from pvxwiki.... mmmmmm..... tasty.....

Please though, give me some more paper scissor stone examples of when Glimmer is bad.

Maybe you would say Orison is better because Arcane Thievery has just randomly hit your Glimmer of Light, therefore Glimmer sucks, those types of conditional justifications are at there very best, obvious and obviously pointless, and at worst, +10 satisfaction for me.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 08:53 AM // 08:53   #68
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ahhhh.... an extra 30 Satisfaction extracted from pvxwiki.... mmmmmm..... tasty.....

Please though, give me some more paper scissor stone examples of when Glimmer is bad.

Maybe you would say Orison is better because Arcane Thievery has just randomly hit your Glimmer of Light, therefore Glimmer sucks, those types of conditional justifications are at there very best, obvious and obviously pointless, and at worst, +10 satisfaction for me.
PvE is easy.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 09:04 AM // 09:04   #69
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Please though, give me some more paper scissor stone examples of when Glimmer is bad.
Hehehehe. Okay, seriously, where do you see those examples?

But whatever, have your satisfaction for being pwetty snowflake.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #70
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I use glimmer all the time in RA simply because its daze resistant. If you get dazed wile getting pounded no mending touch or WoH will save you because you will never get it casted. Of course i know a real pvp er is so 1337 he never ever gets dazed or even has to cast a single spell. That's why they all use shields even wile HB'ing in pve.

However glimmer loses some points for being really easy to divert.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 09:30 AM // 09:30   #71
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The only thing glimmer is good for is healing my smiter on my ranger hero when I run Rragars...
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 09:33 AM // 09:33   #72
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Really unless you're getting attacked by 2 or more mesmers, you shouldn't get your stuff diversioned.

Watch the mesmer, the real problem with diversion is that it forces you to sac skills or not cast.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 10:18 AM // 10:18   #73
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Of course i know a real pvp er is so 1337 he never ever gets dazed or even has to cast a single spell.
I hope you're not suggesting that those guys have actually died at some point, because I assure you then when they're PMing you about how awesome they are and how much you suck, it's because IT'S TRUE.

You know it's true because they use the word "noob".

God forbid anybody actually PLAY guild wars as opposed to living it or farming it.

"Why have you brought a bonder into RA?"
"I've not done it for ages... wanted some fun and entertainment"
"noob. Bring meta or uninstall guild wars"
"... you DO know this is a game right?"
"noob. uninstall guild wars"


or my personal favourite
"Why have you brought something that doesn't synergise with my build into RA, don't you know I'm pro and you should be bringing the things that work with me to make me look better?"
"Is that a trick question?"
"noob. uninstall guild wars"

So anyway, I think I'm going to start bigging up Blessed Light next, I've not seen that in any meta... that'll get the meta bed wetters bed wetting.

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Old Jun 24, 2009, 10:50 AM // 10:50   #74
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It's not a case of running meta builds, if it works by all means use it.

The problem comes with people bringing builds into RA that don't work, yes it's RA but not everyone enjoys lying on the ground after 30 seconds because their monk has healing breeze and orison.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 11:07 AM // 11:07   #75
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I would agree with Strength of Honor, I often look for a smiter to throw it in with Judge's Insight so I can smash everything on my way with my warrior
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #76
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I hope you're not suggesting that those guys have actually died at some point, because I assure you then when they're PMing you about how awesome they are and how much you suck, it's because IT'S TRUE.

You know it's true because they use the word "noob".

God forbid anybody actually PLAY guild wars as opposed to living it or farming it.

"Why have you brought a bonder into RA?"
"I've not done it for ages... wanted some fun and entertainment"
"noob. Bring meta or uninstall guild wars"
"... you DO know this is a game right?"
"noob. uninstall guild wars"


or my personal favourite
"Why have you brought something that doesn't synergise with my build into RA, don't you know I'm pro and you should be bringing the things that work with me to make me look better?"
"Is that a trick question?"
"noob. uninstall guild wars"

So anyway, I think I'm going to start bigging up Blessed Light next, I've not seen that in any meta... that'll get the meta bed wetters bed wetting.
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Someone needs to learn the difference between PLAYING the game and being a tool for the fun of it.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 11:44 AM // 11:44   #77
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God forbid anybody actually PLAY guild wars as opposed to living it or farming it.
There is no issue in playing the game in a way you want to.
There is an issue in playing the game in a sub-par fashion and then refusing to acknowledge that it's sub-par.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 12:16 PM // 12:16   #78
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Let's try and keep it on topic lol. If you wanna make a WoH vs glimmer thread then do so.

As for topic, this isn't actually an underrated skill, but more of where its placed that makes it undesirable i guess. I decided to split my ranger heros attributes from pure mark/exp, to mark/exp/blood magic and put bloodn ritual on her. Now I has barrage ranger without having to bring Eve to power mah healers! Very fun!
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 12:19 PM // 12:19   #79
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Someone needs to learn the difference between PLAYING the game and being a tool for the fun of it.
I read your post. It didn't seem relevant. Do you have sufficient popularity with the mods on this forum to make troll posts and get away with it then?

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There is no issue in playing the game in a way you want to.
There is an issue in playing the game in a sub-par fashion and then refusing to acknowledge that it's sub-par.
Feel free to respond to the words that were written as opposed to the words that you only wish were written. In your own time of course.
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Old Jun 24, 2009, 12:45 PM // 12:45   #80
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There is a big difference between using skills that are quite simply worse than other choices and using skills that go about things in a different way.

Unless you're running Glimmer with both Selfless and Divine Spirit so you can REALLY spam it there is absolutely 0 reason to take i over WoH, HB or UA.
But something like Fevered Dreams so you can have some fun with AoE conditions instead of been a boring, unimaginative tool and using Sabway 24/7 like its the only build that can possibly do anything is not 'sub-par'.
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