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Mireles · Aug 27, 2009, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Does anyone know if ANET still plans to release another content update this month or ever?

Puebert · Aug 27, 2009, 01:18 AM // 01:18

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Regina_Buenaobra#.C2.BF_New_content_upda te_.3F

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

I haven't been cleared to discuss the timing of the next content update in public. Everything that I comment on or discuss with fans are things that I'm actually able to talk about. If I have no information that I can talk about or no new information to post beyond what I've already posted about, all I can really say is keep an eye on the web site or the wiki for when we do post information.
You'll have more information about the Live Team's current and future plans fairly soon. There's going to be a few changes in how those plans get communicated, using what tools, and at what stage. One of the issues we've been grappling with is with many players' lack of knowledge or understanding of the development process, and just how many changes a feature can undergo before it goes live. Game development is usually a black box between the time a project is announced to when you start seeing the first glimpses of it, which is why there have been so many misplaced comments about Guild Was 2 being "vaporware" (when MMORPGs take between 3 - 7 years to create from scratch). There isn't much visibility into actual game development in the industry, and I mean the nitty gritty process, the iterations, the discussions, the constant change, and flux that goes on before a product is launched, at least there isn't unless you read industry post-mortems or attend industry conferences. One concern on our side is, if we let you see that world, that this won't come with the understanding that game development is a continuous, iterative process. That game developers are human. That game developers experiment and innovate, but experimentation and pushing boundaries can be messy. It can mean going back to the drawing board multiple times to get it right, and it can mean canceling features because there are flaws.
The XTH is kind of a tricky one. We believe we've found the source of the issue, and we've taken steps to address it, but it requires extensive testing. The results of those tests will determine the fate of XTH. But Linsey will address this in much more detail soon.

^Her response

Chocobo1 · Aug 27, 2009, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by Puebert

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Regina_Buenaobra#.C2.BF_New_content_upda te_.3F

^Her response

I find it funny how the are changing there communication policy after they said they would keep us in the loop with updates on how its going. Now apparently that didn't work out after a total of one update. I'm still excited for this update, but I was actually really happy that I would lose this feeling that Anet doesn't care when, during their content updates, they start talking to us and just telling us whats going on.

So much for that :(.

Fates · Aug 27, 2009, 01:58 AM // 01:58

This is A-net being more open and encouraging community involvement. Dont you feel included?

Black Metal · Aug 27, 2009, 02:13 AM // 02:13

wow.....this sounds bad

looks like all those promises couldn't even last 4 months

they've already promised to be more open but it's been more closed than ever

that statement from Regina is thinly veiled backtracking

slowerpoke · Aug 27, 2009, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Well, as I said elsewhere, if the content update doesn't arrive tomorrow, we wont be seeing it this month.

Although with the previous one they announced its arrival 4 months in advance. And at that time, they said content updates would no longer be part of monthly maintenance builds, instead arriving every 3-4 months. Last update, about 4 months ago. I dont think they should be surprised we are expecting something, they themselves set about the new update schedule.

Even a rough estimate and brief description as to what the update entails. And if a delay happens, fair enough, just tell us.

I do find it strange they promised more communication but the reverse seems true.

The trailer was good but it doesn't buy them any leeway in this instance, the old excuse of 'too busy working on gw2' doesn't work in reverse for the Live Team, which is soley dedicated to gw1. And it has been 4 months since the large content update, and that is alot of man hours even with a very small team.

We can only wait and see, and hopefully for our sakes they don't continue this policy of non communication. It only frustrates the fan base.

Chocobo1 · Aug 27, 2009, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Reading Reginas post almost makes me feel like shes calling us stupid and unable to figure out that things take time. Sure we may not be developers, but giving us little snipits and sneak previews of things to come isn't bad. Most of us here are fairly intelligent, and hey if you decided one month you wanted one feature, but then explained how it was impossible the next that is honestly fine by me. Maybe even some of the smarter people here could give some advice on how to get around it. But not even given a chance and just kept totally in the dark for fear that we may criticize you is pretty lame.

I guess ignoring us is the easier way.

TheSackMaster · Aug 27, 2009, 02:35 AM // 02:35

I wants my new content meow!

Clone · Aug 27, 2009, 02:37 AM // 02:37

They're probably considering this to be the new content update:
http://www.guildwars.com/aion/

Dilios85 · Aug 27, 2009, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by Clone

They're probably considering this to be the new content update:
http://www.guildwars.com/aion/

those wings are a joke! /fail

*cough* cardboard cutouts *cough*

MMSDome · Aug 27, 2009, 02:51 AM // 02:51

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Originally Posted by TheSackMaster

I wants my new content meow!

meow, wtf?

We were supposed to get a content update this month, does anyone find it surprising that we aren't?

Mireles · Aug 27, 2009, 02:56 AM // 02:56

thanks for the info fellas

IronSheik · Aug 27, 2009, 02:59 AM // 02:59

I need my content updates right meow.

Chocobo1 · Aug 27, 2009, 03:01 AM // 03:01

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Originally Posted by IronSheik

I need my content updates right meow.

This kinda stuff is why we can never have a discussion about these things.

Sigh.

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 27, 2009, 03:03 AM // 03:03

I'm only expecting 1 more big update this year anyway, maybe next month or the month after.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Aug 27, 2009, 03:04 AM // 03:04

Someone beat me to the "Aion wings is update, lol" dammit

wilebill · Aug 27, 2009, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Where's my oatmeal cookie?

El Presidente · Aug 27, 2009, 03:11 AM // 03:11

"Game development is usually a black box between the time a project is announced to when you start seeing the first glimpses of it, which is why there have been so many misplaced comments about Guild Was 2 being 'vaporware' "...

Lol...what'd you expect when the "misplaced comments" started at the top?

Mar 26 2007 interview with Jeff Strain: Guild Wars 2 is expected to hit public beta next year...
http://kotaku.com/gaming/feature/fea...led-244666.php

March 26, 2007 interview with Jeff Strain and Mike O’Brien: The bad news is that the beta isn’t expected to start until the end of next year...
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2007/03/interview_guild/

Apr 22 2007 interview with Jeff Strain: We're not giving any kind of ship date but we are very confident that we'll be in public beta towards the latter half of next year...
http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=162307

I could go on and on; however, does the saying, "People are only as good as their word" come to mind? I'm really not expecting an answer to that with all the clearance you people need to communicate with us...

Murgatroyd · Aug 27, 2009, 03:14 AM // 03:14

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Originally Posted by wilebill

Where's my oatmeal cookie?

Maybe there will be an oatmeal cookie emote you can get for your GW characters if you buy the City of Heroes: Going Rogue expansion. Since oatmeal cookies are so... roguishly good? I dunno.

fenix · Aug 27, 2009, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Going way off topic.