Aug 23, 2009, 09:30 PM // 21:30
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Academy Page
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The Inevitable Stagnation?
I've been sitting here, looking over information for the past few hours, looking at builds and thinking on things. Every time I think of some new combo of skills I quickly realize it's already been done...numerous times. And tested, proven to be either good or bad, and then ignored if it wasn't SUPERAWESOMEGREAT.
Exploration of the maps rewards nothing new...there are hundreds if not thousands of people out there who have memorized the entire layout of every single map.
Missions are pretty pointless to complete..the secondary missions I mean, as primary missions give you title progression whereas the secondary merely give you EXP and some gold and maybe a spiffy crappy weapon you can sell for more gold.
I like this game, in fact I've been playing it off and on since Factions, but I'm noticing a singular aggravating fact.
Everything has been done.
Everything has been cleared.
Everything is known.
There's nothing new, nothing fresh. I'm actually sitting here yearning for an update from the GW1 crew that'll change around how some skills work, just so I can play with new combos and try out something different.
But while we sit here with an unknown amount of time between now and when GW2 comes out, what are ways that we can avoid this stagnating feeling of boredom, that "I've done it, been there and doopy doop" mood which is weighing down so heavily on me right now?
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Aug 23, 2009, 10:06 PM // 22:06
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#2
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ohio
Guild: Amateur Pwnography [SeKz] Officer
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlanKels
Everything has been done.
Everything has been cleared.
Everything is known.
There's nothing new, nothing fresh.
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Why do you think the phrase "Dead game is Dead" is used so much?
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Originally Posted by ArlanKels
what are ways that we can avoid this stagnating feeling of boredom
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As you said
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Originally Posted by ArlanKels
an unknown amount of time between now and when GW2 comes out
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All ready for GW2? HoM filled out? Trolled lately?
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Aug 23, 2009, 10:17 PM // 22:17
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#3
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Furnace Stoker
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Build innovation has been on an all time low and people in pvx have been resisting new builds from the latest buffs. They still have charmed animals in their skill bar for some recommended pve builds, go figure.
On the other hand, there are some new rit heroes build that even exceeded the performance of discordway, yet they try to trash it.
Last edited by Daesu; Aug 23, 2009 at 10:23 PM // 22:23..
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Aug 23, 2009, 10:49 PM // 22:49
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#4
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Administrator
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It's been 4 years now. Of course people are going to have achieved this kind of completeness. Since ANet are working on GW2, you can't expect them to keep adding meaningful updates (large content related ones), at least not in quick sucession. When GW stops being fun, take a break, and if you're satisfied with what you've done and have no interest at all of repeating stuff, stop playing.
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Aug 23, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05
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#5
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Forge Runner
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If you take a good like break and forget everything about the game, maybe come back and start a new character the game does feel refreshed. Also.. the community does wear the game out, think about what people are doing, it's usually a bunch of people doing one thing now like UWSC or something. I'd suggest taking a long break, then come back and shutting off local/trade/emotes chats, going into an international dist and play with H/H. It's time to ditch the other annoying players and play at your own pace. The game feels dead because people wear it out, loses lust.
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Aug 23, 2009, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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#6
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: The Overacheivers [Club]
Profession: Mo/
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i'm under the impression taht some peopel are being force to play...
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Aug 23, 2009, 11:08 PM // 23:08
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#7
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Forge Runner
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Originally Posted by SmithyBen
i'm under the impression taht some peopel are being force to play...
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Probably because they don't have another game to play or they have nothing better to do. There is a real life world out there, heh.
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Aug 23, 2009, 11:11 PM // 23:11
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#8
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2009
Guild: HOA
Profession: W/Me
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ive done it all seen it all too. my current drive revolves around maxing a few more titles and helping friends/meeting new friends along. The zaishen mission/combat/bountys keep me going too. i applaud anet for that move because its lended my insight to quite a few players vets and new in whatever said situation might be. Still alive and well here, i guess its just what you make out of it right?
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Aug 23, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40
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#9
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: nom nom nom
Guild: Old Elite Warriors
Profession: W/
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All I have to say is: why isn't there a title for completing quests? There are hundreds upon hundreds of quests. Very few people have gone through every campaign and done those available, let alone follow a trail of quests to completion. A title for this would be great for various reasons. A body could essentially get GWAMM without having to grindfarm for an extraneous title (sweet, drunk, etc. etc. etc.). Besides, if I were a game designer that thought up dozens of quests that nobody ever did, I might be a little pissed at the time wasted programming nonessential additions.
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Aug 24, 2009, 04:12 AM // 04:12
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#10
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStonefist
All I have to say is: why isn't there a title for completing quests?
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That's stupid. I've done almost every quest, even some of those random ones that start form NPCs in the middle of an explorable area, just for shits. Having little bar to acknowledge that fact or to show that fact to random people on the internet wouldn't have enhanced the experience any. Titles =/= new content. If they were, I could make a flash game where you click a button 10,000 times to make a bar go up and call it an expansion pack.
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Aug 24, 2009, 04:54 AM // 04:54
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#11
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Canada
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I miss the days when skills were constantly updated, and there were always new things to try.
I wish, instead of shooting for perfect balance, ArenaNet just changed loads of skills. Obviously not doing anything that breaks the game, but not actively trying to balance the game either.
Just do that all the time. It'd keep the game fun and interesting.
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Aug 24, 2009, 08:40 AM // 08:40
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#12
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Italy
Profession: Mo/
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Well, there are a lot of new fun builds yet to discover, or new ideas that might be interesting (there's a nice thread in the dervish forum, talking about a build for a dervish using a bow for example)
on the other hand, if you want to design a new fantastic build that will become the new meta for a particular task, and that will be loved by everyone, and used in every PUG..well, that's another story, but if you only want to have fun, IMHO there's plenty of new builds you can think about..
if you can't have fun any more, i suggest you to take a long brake from the game..
then come back and reroll another toon in Pre-Searing
N.B.: if you are bored with missions and exploring, why don't you try PvP? it could be fun..
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Aug 24, 2009, 02:55 PM // 14:55
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#13
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Texas
Guild: Reign of Judgment [RoJ]
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlanKels
Everything has been done.
Everything has been cleared.
Everything is known.
There's nothing new, nothing fresh. I'm actually sitting here yearning for an update from the GW1 crew that'll change around how some skills work, just so I can play with new combos and try out something different.
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Welcome to GW. This is why most of us are praying to sweet, zombie Jesus that the Live Team actually releases a content update this month. Come on, Linsey! Give us something!
Please?
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Aug 24, 2009, 05:29 PM // 17:29
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#14
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Denbigh, Wales
Guild: Zero Zero
Profession: R/
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I find that the best thing for me is to play with friends. I have a few whom I do spend 90% of my playing time with. The rest is chest running when I'm bored enough.
This keeps me going as we always have ongoing little projects to complete and work on; and it's more about the fun of playing with friends rather than the content which we do.
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Aug 24, 2009, 06:11 PM // 18:11
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#15
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinkest One
All ready for GW2? HoM filled out? Trolled lately?
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There's a nice touch of irony
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Aug 24, 2009, 06:50 PM // 18:50
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#16
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Guild: Black Widows of Death
Profession: W/Mo
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Until you have completed the trilogy + EOTN with the Ogre-Slaying Knife in your hands the whole time you have not finished the game
if bored try something new to you quit relying on other peoples builds make your own and roll. Do the campaigns with collector armor and what weapons falls from drops , collect core only skills and deal with it. Do it like a Noob and do it proudly
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Aug 24, 2009, 08:04 PM // 20:04
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#17
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2006
Guild: Clan Roxor
Profession: W/E
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Things are so stagnant that this thread has been made at least several dozen times already!
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Aug 24, 2009, 09:36 PM // 21:36
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#18
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2009
Profession: N/
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Tough to get excited for a game that the devs and cr themselves have abandoned.
XTH update? Second content update? Dropped like a sack of bricks.
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Aug 25, 2009, 01:30 AM // 01:30
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#19
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub
Guild: RoS
Profession: Mo/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArlanKels
I've been sitting here, looking over information for the past few hours
(snip)
Everything has been done.
Everything has been cleared.
Everything is known.
(snip)
But while we sit here with an unknown amount of time between now and when GW2 comes out, what are ways that we can avoid this stagnating feeling of boredom, that "I've done it, been there and doopy doop" mood which is weighing down so heavily on me right now?
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Er, hate to tell you, but this thread has already been done too.
Want variety? Try new builds (look for synergies of skills others haven't discovered yet), random pugs (play a monk and see if you can salvage an otherwise hopeless party), monkfests (all monk parties), mezfests (talk about fun!) and other random variations. Do this with real people, as what makes the game worthwhile in the long run is its social aspect.
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Aug 25, 2009, 02:02 AM // 02:02
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#20
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: [TEW]
Profession: N/
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There is nothing new under the sun. Well, except for furries. They're new.
Hay thar.
Try this set of things:
1) Type /age
2) Look at the impossibly huge number
3) OH HEY GUESS THAT EXPLAINS THINGS
Srsly, this is a game, not your life. If you're bored, you can quit without committing suicide.
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