Curse

StormDragonZ · Sep 16, 2009, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Fair warning to everyone out right now.

Lately, I've been finding myself getting Monks and sometimes Dervishes who find it funny to deliberately sabotage a group by pretending to have an actual build, but to find out they use skills such as Iron Mist, Karei's Healing Circle and Heal Area just to keep foes alive.

I'm certain as of right now that this isn't some new thing, but come on, Monks already get scapegoated for groups that fail, but now, it may very well get to the point I'll have to start questioning if a player's build is what they say it is.

Nonetheless, I just wanted to mention this to everyone. Anyone else have similar situations where a character deliberately wants to GO RED ENGINE a group from the beginning?

Black Metal · Sep 16, 2009, 05:32 AM // 05:32

what, a pug?

Saph · Sep 16, 2009, 05:46 AM // 05:46

That is, well, pretty retarded. Why would someone want to sabotage the group they are in? Unless its AB, JQ or FA. Are you sure they aren't just fail monks that have no clue what they are doing?

Rolandl · Sep 16, 2009, 05:58 AM // 05:58

I think these are just newbies with little experience in pvp stuff and had just slapped on a build they had created. They may even had been trying to farm for zcoins with zcombat.

I was in RA the other day and my monk used rebirth on me......

Personally i don't mind coz everyone has to start somewhere. You could always pm them later and suggests they change their builds or suggests skills to take.

wilebill · Sep 16, 2009, 06:03 AM // 06:03

Back in the days when Prophecies first came out, being a spoiler was a thing to do.

The idea was to wait until the mission was almost complete and then aggro everything in sight. Probably in PUGs it is still a thing to do.

Lesson: Do not pug.

dr love · Sep 16, 2009, 06:21 AM // 06:21

damn, that's pretty pro.

i'm not surprised though, i've considered doing something to that effect in pvp. bring vengeance or some total griefer skill

gremlin · Sep 16, 2009, 06:38 AM // 06:38

Haven't come across that particular method yet but players screwing up or even blackmailing parties isn't new.

We had a monk ask for 1 p each before he would finish the mission and since he was carrying the item needed to continue we were stuck.

He waited till the last minute and aggro'd mobs to us until we died and then placed the pitch 1 p for a rez.

Point is idiots have been around for years, I have had good and bad pugs, its a lottery.
Find and join a friendly guild or go with heroes.

IronSheik · Sep 16, 2009, 06:48 AM // 06:48

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Originally Posted by gremlin

He waited till the last minute and aggro'd mobs to us until we died and then placed the pitch 1 p for a rez.

Oh boy, for how many times people in PvE wanted me to pay for revives.

This still happens, I asked a monk to carry the spear in sunjiang and he demanded money and left when I didn't pay.

MisterB · Sep 16, 2009, 06:52 AM // 06:52

R/Rt Spirit Spam LFG ZQ HM.(Party Search)

Šiljo · Sep 16, 2009, 07:04 AM // 07:04

No eoe?

no,wait,that only pisses ppl off in FA.

Anyway,its hard to lose now if some1 agrooes after doing the mission with pve skills and all that.

And how many missions are u actually doing with only 1 monk/rez.

M'Aiq The Liar · Sep 16, 2009, 09:25 AM // 09:25

Wow, I'm glad the OP wasn't around when you could bring UA and troll your team in a mission, Edge Bomb alliance battles, or Pestilence Bomb Gunther.

mathiastemplar · Sep 16, 2009, 09:37 AM // 09:37

Seems like you just find some good PUGs xD
Well.. General "rule" for pugs: Ping build, or leave/kick.

Gill Halendt · Sep 16, 2009, 09:58 AM // 09:58

Playing with people you don't know is often the most deliberate act of sabotage you could do to yourself.

Little O B S I · Sep 16, 2009, 12:39 PM // 12:39

Light of Dwayna is a good grief skill, and Resurrect.. 0% energy is nais!

Shadowhaze · Sep 16, 2009, 12:49 PM // 12:49

Vengence is kind of amusing in AB. Saw that a few times. People are like, "What the heck just killed me?!" XD

I've also run into players that want to be paid to do something. Stupidity.

Another thing I've run into a lot lately...leech city. They talk before entering, skip cutscenes, but do ziltch. I'm not gonna do all the work while they sit on their lazy...butt. If the others want to do so, fine, but I'll leave and the player gets on my ignore list for a time. PvP things, well report feature is all you've got. Either way, risk your own dishonor/ban for reporting someone for leeching. lol. Craziness.

QueenofDeath · Sep 16, 2009, 01:10 PM // 13:10

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

Fair warning to everyone out right now.

Lately, I've been finding myself getting Monks and sometimes Dervishes who find it funny to deliberately sabotage a group by pretending to have an actual build, but to find out they use skills such as Iron Mist, Karei's Healing Circle and Heal Area just to keep foes alive.

I'm certain as of right now that this isn't some new thing, but come on, Monks already get scapegoated for groups that fail, but now, it may very well get to the point I'll have to start questioning if a player's build is what they say it is.

Nonetheless, I just wanted to mention this to everyone. Anyone else have similar situations where a character deliberately wants to GO RED ENGINE a group from the beginning?

This is part of every game when they become boring. You came in too late bud and you will see all kinds of antics and stupid builds. Many gamers just don't care anymore and the most fun now is just pissing other players off. I love the ones that once they get deep in the mission take all their armor off and just start dancing hahahahah that's a riot. I've learned to expect anything and everything anymore and play for FUN not for prestige or any of those silly titles or trying to fill that stupid HOM for some rediculous stupid prize in GW2 that won't mount to a hill of beans.

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Playing with people you don't know is often the most deliberate act of sabotage you could do to yourself.

I also agree with the above. When you join a group of strangers if you go in expecting them to play like you do or like you say you are the most rediculous retard in the game. People didn't buy this game to play it the way you play it or think it should be played. I certainly don't and it's pretty easy to ping a good skill bar and then immediately change it before the mission or zone starts. I think it's pretty stupid to even ask people to ping their builds. It's so easy to change them afterwards.

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Back in the days when Prophecies first came out, being a spoiler was a thing to do.

The idea was to wait until the mission was almost complete and then aggro everything in sight. Probably in PUGs it is still a thing to do.

And here above is one of the big differences in pay to play and free to play online games. In Everquest you rarely if ever had stupid things like that happen. Mainly because paying $15 a month gave the gamers a since of goals instead of greifing. With these free to play games like GW you have retarded 8 year olds and even teenagers who think it's funny to piss people off and nothing can happen to them. See, in EQ if you did stuff like this you would get banned and lose your account. There's not enough banning for greifing in GW if any at all.

Too many childish players in GW has ruined pugging and grouping with strangers.

Kattar · Sep 16, 2009, 01:16 PM // 13:16

You've never seen people grief before? Like in any game ever?

Solas · Sep 16, 2009, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Yeah some people are ****, that's life

Windf0rce · Sep 16, 2009, 01:48 PM // 13:48

I'm inclined to say it is an isolated incident... In all seriously pugging is NOT as bad as people claim it to be unless they are really unlucky (or they act as pricks all the time and people grief them).

I have always PUG'd in GW, and recently even more so due to the ZMissions and Bounties. I have done several dungeons and missions now (Leg. Guardian, and only 4 dungeons left in HM), all done pugging, and the vast majority had good players, with 'horror stories' being the exception, not the rule. Normal mode missions are slighly worse because they usually have genuinely inexperienced players, but most players doing HM content have at least an idea on what works and what doesn't.

Of course, I play nice and do my best to not pick a fight. This part is important, because if you are an asshat, do not expect people to be nice towards you - they will grief you.

Deviant Angel · Sep 16, 2009, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Vengeance was way more amusing in ursan pugs!

*rez*
*ursan*
*thud* WTF! Why did I die?!

Silly ursans!

OP, did you actually ask the monks to ping their bars? If not, I seriously doubt their goal was to sabotage whatever you were doing. There are still players out there that don't install the game and head straight to PvX, so it's possible that they thought heal area was decent.

Keep in mind, spamming "GLF monk" doesn't always get you a UA or whatever it is you're hoping for. Sometimes it gets you 6 maintained enchants, gale, and rebirth!