Curse

doomfodder · Sep 22, 2009, 11:33 PM // 23:33

I played 7 rounds this AM and lost 5 1st rounders - snivel
I even lost to the same team twice too. I played R.
well... who knows... mayB this is random (yeah right)

round----My Team----------Opponent
1--------R,D,R,A------------Mo,E,A,A
2--------R,R,W,W-----------Mo,Mo,A,E
3--------R,A,Me,N----------E,E,N,N
4--------R,W,D,E-----------Mo,Rt,A,N
5--------R,R,R,W-----------Mo,E,A,A
6--------R,ME,W,D---------Mo,W,W,N
7--------R,N,R,E------------Mo,N,N,R

YunSooJin · Sep 22, 2009, 11:36 PM // 23:36

sometimes the problem is not on the outside, but within oneself.

Karate Jesus · Sep 22, 2009, 11:36 PM // 23:36

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Originally Posted by doomfodder

I played 7 rounds this AM and lost 5 1st rounders - snivel
I even lost to the same team twice too. I played R.
well... who knows... mayB this is random (yeah right)

round----My Team----------Opponent
1--------R,D,R,A------------Mo,E,A,A
2--------R,R,W,W-----------Mo,Mo,A,E
3--------R,A,Me,N----------E,E,N,N
4--------R,W,D,E-----------Mo,Rt,A,N
5--------R,R,R,W-----------Mo,E,A,A
6--------R,ME,W,D---------Mo,W,W,N
7--------R,N,R,E------------Mo,N,N,R

A lot of guilds still sync. I would suggest finding one of them and letting them teach you.

It's not hard to do and makes Glad farming pretty easy. Oh, and technically it's not bannable

Alleji · Sep 22, 2009, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Didn't syncing get nerfed?

Karate Jesus · Sep 22, 2009, 11:46 PM // 23:46

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Originally Posted by Alleji

Didn't syncing get nerfed?

If by "nerfed", you mean that they made it so that the queue pulls from all districts....then yes.

If you mean that it's not possible to do anymore, then LOLLOLOLOL. It's still very easy to do.

HawkofStorms · Sep 23, 2009, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Umm yes, those outcomes are random. Syncing does not happen that often, especially if you play in American districts. I've gotten over 200 glad points from RA, and have faced syncer teams about 5 times over the course of a year.

You did not run into sync teams. Most of those teams you listed did not have "optimal" builds. You just ran into better teams. Players need to get better at the game, rather then blame their losses on phantom syncers.

Karate Jesus · Sep 23, 2009, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Umm yes, those outcomes are random. Syncing does not happen that often, especially if you play in American districts. I've gotten over 200 glad points from RA, and have faced syncer teams about 5 times over the course of a year.

You did not run into sync teams. Most of those teams you listed did not have "optimal" builds. You just ran into better teams. Players need to get better at the game, rather then blame their losses on phantom syncers.

Tbh, I run into a sync'd team 1 out of every 5-10 matches. It's just that the majority of sync'd teams in RA are either terrible or they only get 2-3 of their intended syncers into the match (which screws them if they're trying to run a RtL spike or something).

I would sincerely doubt that the OP ran into that many sync'd teams, but it does happen pretty often albeit not as often as it used to.

HawkofStorms · Sep 23, 2009, 12:10 AM // 00:10

And I still think those numbers are inflated.

I've been accused of being in a sync team about a dozen times. And not a single time was I actually syncing. The number of false positives caused by people like the OP makes syncing seem much worse then it is.

Karate Jesus · Sep 23, 2009, 12:14 AM // 00:14

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

And I still think those numbers are inflated.

I've been accused of being in a sync team about a dozen times. And not a single time was I actually syncing. The number of false positives caused by people like the OP makes syncing seem much worse then it is.

Well, by 5-10, I mean the ones I can 100% identify as sync'd (which you're right, it's probably a little inflated. It's probably 1 out of 15-20). When 3-4 guys use RtL on you, you know it's a sync. Or when you have a team of 2 Frontliners, 1 midliner, and 1 backliner (and they're actually playing their roles that way), then I'm pretty sure I've got a sync'd team.

For a while I ran into a lot of Dual R/A frontlines with a VoR mid and a decent WoH or ZB backliner. It'd be pretty awesome to get that w/o syncing. And btw, I was one of the groups that sync'd that same team.

Zahr Dalsk · Sep 23, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

When I enter RA and two or more people on the enemy group have the same tag and cape, I'm generally pretty sure it's a sync.

Chocobo1 · Sep 23, 2009, 12:24 AM // 00:24

Yeah I gotta admit, the number of "syncers" is so inflated. If I play on my monk in RA I am generally accused of syncing if I have any decent kind of a team. I'm assuming it's because generally when a person monks, that team is going to win. It's stupid as hell, people just use the term to hide their own terrible lack of skill.

Ugh, it's just like the people who complain about never getting a monk. If you want a monk, roll a monk or stfu.

Martin Alvito · Sep 23, 2009, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

You did not run into sync teams.

Tell that to the four man Stonesoul Strike team I faced the other day. No, it wasn't teams. I've bumped into three obvious syncs (cape/tag) this week and I don't play all that much RA.

The "nerf" has made it such that you don't see quite as many sync teams, but you definitely see them.

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Most of those teams you listed did not have "optimal" builds. You just ran into better teams. Players need to get better at the game, rather then blame their losses on phantom syncers.

There's a lot of truth in this. First rule of RA: unless you're bad, most losses aren't your fault. Sometimes you lose to Build Wars. If you have three melee and a monk, and they have two VoR mesmers, a necro and a monk, you will lose if they're even remotely competent. Sometimes you are saddled with incompetents. You can tell that YOU are not the incompetent player if you frequently (not always) carry bad teams to a win or two before scrubbing out/leaving after win.

Second rule of RA: some losses are your fault. Learning to tell the difference is critical to both your peace of mind and your ability to improve if you choose to play down there.

obsidian ectoplasm · Sep 23, 2009, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Play monk. get good at it. beat them.

Seriously if teams are still syncing they must be pretty desperate ( they're baddd)

*lemming* · Sep 23, 2009, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Since when did a reasonably balanced team denote syncing?

Tijger · Sep 23, 2009, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Eh...syncing happens, not often I believe but I've seen it once or twice. The other thing is that most players just pluck a build from PvX, which means that with luck they'll get a synergetic team without even trying. 3 decent players and a good one can win with ease in RA usually.

Saturday I went RA for a few hours, had one good team right off the bat which was perfectly balanced and worked well together, an easy 10 wins consecutively, the other hour I spent sighing at n00b teammates.
My first team could have looked like a sync to a casual observer, never met each other but worked great together although good enough for TA

I'm guessing part of it is in the eye of the beholder.

Sarevok Thordin · Sep 23, 2009, 07:36 AM // 07:36

The fun part about syncs is disrupting them

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Just watch what happens when you land IN a sync team...

Shut A You Face · Sep 23, 2009, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Second rule of RA: some losses are your fault. Learning to tell the difference is critical to both your peace of mind and your ability to improve if you choose to play down there.

Learn from this man's quote

QueenofDeath · Sep 23, 2009, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Here we go with the "Im pretty sure if it's this it's a sync team" bs again. lol Speculation is a wonderful thing isn't it? You can make it fact just by "being pretty sure" lolololol

HawkofStorms · Sep 23, 2009, 03:33 PM // 15:33

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

Tell that to the four man Stonesoul Strike team I faced the other day. No, it wasn't teams. I've bumped into three obvious syncs (cape/tag) this week and I don't play all that much RA.

The "nerf" has made it such that you don't see quite as many sync teams, but you definitely see them.

Oh it does happen. I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm saying it doesn't happen as often as people think. And it didn't happen to the OP.

But I still have never actually run into a stonesoul/shove spike team in RA myself. Or a team with people from the same guild except for about 4 or 5 times. And I've played RA a LOT. Most of these horror stories people tell about syncing happening all the time... just I don't believe it because I'm not seeing it. It is like people are playing a different RA then I am (PS prior to the "nerf" that made it harder, I would only play in American districts, where syncing didn't happen that often. If you want to play against "better" opponents by playing in the international districts, then don't get mad that you run into syncers).

But it is pretty clear that the OP did not run into a sync team. If he feels like he "must" have a monk to win in RA, play as the monk (PS, you don't need a monk. I've won 15 matches in a row, (5 in TA) without a monk without syncing, It's pretty easy to steam roll bad teams if you have blinders/dazers).

QueenofDeath · Sep 23, 2009, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Yeah I agree with Hawofstorms. I've been playing RA for years now and have hardly ever seen sync teams. To me it's no big deal. You get it over quickly and you go play another one. I've never seen so many whinners because they lost 1 stupid match to a sync team. Don't even try to tell me it happens constantly because I won't believe it. I have 100's of gladiator points so it's not like they are completely preventing you from winning.