Curse

Sarevok Thordin · Oct 02, 2009, 12:47 PM // 12:47

PvX wins again.

I bet TONS of people submitted Conjure Cripslashers and MB Eles, guess who got the lucky draw...

Not happy with this.

Emunator · Oct 02, 2009, 01:04 PM // 13:04

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Originally Posted by Symeon

I am annoyed about two things. Firstly, how much unnecessary effort the Live Team have put into this. If they hadn't had the contest and simply copied PvX bars, unless they included Tease/AoD mesmers or Tainted necro, I wouldn't have complained, because of the minimal effort required. But since they had a contest, sifted through thousands of bars, and ended up picking ones they could've taken skill for skill from PvX, as well as several bad ones - valuable developer time has been wasted. Secondly, the contest rules stated that builds should be original, not taken from another source. Only a handful of the winning bars comply with this. So not only was the contest not needed, but it turned out to be a complete joke.

The man-hours spent on all this could have produced a decent balance update, or even implemented Sealed Deck. I think ANet lost their sense of priority a long time ago, but it just hurts to see such an utter waste of time.

Ouch you almost make me agree with this.

lustnlood · Oct 02, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05

wait... the thought just occured to me... i dont think these guys were the only ones who posted the copy pasted pvx skill bars... so how do you explain the fact that not all the ppl who posted pvx copied bars go chosen... was is based on skill order? would i have mattered if i put lingering curse in slot 2 not 1?

LIVE TEAM... WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY... these actions need to be explained by you... we deserve it... we paid and you are therefore bound by law to be accountable for your actions to the community...

explain pls?

ps. this is not me provoking the live team... this simply me asking for what is rightfully mine

JR · Oct 02, 2009, 01:11 PM // 13:11

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Originally Posted by lustnlood

LIVE TEAM... WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY... these actions need to be explained by you... we deserve it... we paid and you are therefore bound by law to be accountable for your actions to the community...

Let's not be ridiculous, they could happily and freely shut down the servers tomorrow if they chose to.

Will Mason · Oct 02, 2009, 01:12 PM // 13:12

My ranger HA bar won, the non-thumper one...too bad it wasn't me who won.
As for the others, copy-pasta ftl. It's really obvious that even after a delay in announcing the winners, no one spent time actually looking at the bars. I find it funny how half of them won't be used and then the other half will be be nerfed when the meta is...

lord of all tyria · Oct 02, 2009, 01:25 PM // 13:25

No tainter. That is all.

Malice Black · Oct 02, 2009, 01:33 PM // 13:33

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Originally Posted by Will Mason

My ranger HA bar won, the non-thumper one...too bad it wasn't me who won.
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That sucks. Kinda predictable that it will be pvx builds.

dr love · Oct 02, 2009, 01:34 PM // 13:34

i have a sinking feeling they took the most popular bars, and then just did a random draw from there. so the fault may not be entirely theirs...

Auron of Neon · Oct 02, 2009, 01:37 PM // 13:37

I always wanted ANet to re-introduce premades that people could load up based on the highest rated PvX builds, but I didn't want the *henchies* to use them :/

Jarus · Oct 02, 2009, 01:54 PM // 13:54

I'm just glad I won, though what with all the discussion going on in here, I do have to wonder...

Have a look at Cassie Santiago's bar. Is that in meta? I have no idea what actually is in meta at the moment. The only pvp meta I would know of is the botfests that are JQ and FA. So if that bar is a meta bar, or on PvX, then it's purely coincidental, and I have to wonder if a lot of the meta-looking bars that won are also coincidental.

Bar is:
* Resurrection Signet
* Phantom Pain
* Lyssa's Aura
* Conjure Nightmare
* Illusion of Pain
* Hex Eater Signet
* Ether Phantom
* Discharge Enchantment

FoxBat · Oct 02, 2009, 02:03 PM // 14:03

It's just even more insulting that several of the winners posting here indicated they either don't have a clue about gvg and/or AI, or didn't care to put much thought into this. Well no I do appreciate your honesty, but it's infuriating that Anet is rewarding this and saddling us with garbage bars that perform worse than the zaishen henchies.

And yeah JR's comment on the resources they are allocating to the PvE henches... that's just really low.

Will Mason · Oct 02, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

That sucks. Kinda predictable that it will be pvx builds.

I didn't look at PvX when I made it and I just checked, it's a slight variation of 3 skills, not the same. There's not much you can do with ranger bars, but you get my point.

Scythe O F Glory · Oct 02, 2009, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Nonono....a henchman with Prage....

Lex · Oct 02, 2009, 02:24 PM // 14:24

I quoted this post of Martin Kerstein already in this topic but now I noticed something new:

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Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein

The point of this contest is (...) to offer henchmen with useful skillbars (...) for players, who want to compete but are not able to field 8 human players.

GL with competing... lol & rotfl

And the most important thing to me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein

They are not meant to replace human players.

Then why are you giving human skillbars to henchman???

It useless.

I vote for: let the winners keep their prizes - I dont care/mind, but ANet plz think over again, take your time how long you will need, and this next time give PvP community proper builds to compete

This topic is just pure confirmation that builds you did choose are bad and you need more time to get proper ones.

Puebert · Oct 02, 2009, 02:54 PM // 14:54

The mind blast build cracks me up.

Longasc · Oct 02, 2009, 03:00 PM // 15:00

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Originally Posted by Emunator

About all the QQ, i thought that they said they would improve the AI of henchman so they would use the winning bars as they are supposed too.

Makes no sense. They never said they will upgrade the AI. You *thought* does not cut the mustard.

There is also no point in making builds *for* the AI if they plan to change the AI later. Which was actually the idea, to have some viable henchmen bars that work well.

Now we have henchmen with builds that cannot be properly used by heroes, that would require micro management and manually activating some skills.

Nihal · Oct 02, 2009, 03:07 PM // 15:07

really i can't think that an henc can use frenzy,infuse,snare,make haste so really i think those winner build are too intelligent for a bot so i cannot see how arenanet could make win those build.. BAH

Karate Jesus · Oct 02, 2009, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Good thing I tried to obey the contest rules and not copy from PvX or use one of the builds from my "Hero Meta" folder in-game. Because, you know, then I might have actually won the contest.

Btw, fck this.

Auron of Neon · Oct 02, 2009, 03:09 PM // 15:09

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Good thing I tried to obey the contest rules and not copy from PvX or use one of the builds from my "Hero Meta" folder in-game. Because, you know, then I might have actually won the contest.

You still wouldn't have won. The Man is keeping you down, remember?

QueenofDeath · Oct 02, 2009, 03:12 PM // 15:12

I sent in an excellent blind bot spammer and it didn't get picked.

I had glyph of immolation also on the bar for not only blinding with steam, but, causing burning for 3 seconds as well. The ai uses this build quite effectively at least in PVE so I don't understand why a blind bot isn't one of the henchies? It's a build I like to use myself when playing PVP. Makes melees and rangers scream foul foul foul all the time.

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