Curse

Zahr Dalsk · Oct 10, 2009, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

I've got a question: why are people abusing the system now via RR to boost their Commander title, while Linsey indicated that it'd be mutually exclusive from the new title associated to SD:

Consider this: when HB goes away the commander title will be impossible for new people to attain.

Thus, by getting it now, they're getting themselves what will feel to them like an exclusive title, and it'll make them feel better.

wilderness · Oct 10, 2009, 05:29 PM // 17:29

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Thus, by getting it now, they're getting themselves what will feel to them like an exclusive title, and it'll make them feel better.

And if they enjoy this aspect of the game then your problem is what exactly?

When I play Halo I get massive amounts of enjoyment from topping the post game board by obliterating my opponents.

When I play Scrabble and beat someone I consider my equal in terms of intelligence and ability, I feel proud of myself for ding well.

When I finish a title/find a unique item in GWs, I get kicks from flaunting that 'achievement' in the faces of other players.

If this makes me an arsehole, I guess I'll just accept that and counter your shaking fist emote with my r9 Zaishen.

Vdawg1337 · Oct 10, 2009, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by wilderness

because Anet left an exploitable quest in-game after calling the use of said exploit a 'cheat'.

They are calling it match manipulation, and not a cheat/exploit.

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Originally Posted by wilderness

Also, seeing as I've seen a few players in game who've retained their full trade+ of armbraces, there's plenty yet or Anet to do before they go about banning for 'cheating' 50 zkeys or so.

Sensible banning is not somthing anet is known for. Just because other people get away with it doesnt mean some will get banned.

wilderness · Oct 10, 2009, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by Vdawg1337

They are calling it match manipulation, and not a cheat/exploit.

Semantics.

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Originally Posted by Vdawg1337

Sensible banning is not somthing anet is known for. Just because other people get away with it doesnt mean some will get banned.

further highlighting Anet's inefficiency. Had they simply removed the quest, the match fixing would have been ended.

Cracko · Oct 10, 2009, 06:10 PM // 18:10

- wrong thread -

Shadowspawn X · Oct 10, 2009, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

I don't want to argue, you already proved that you are fiercly dedicated to RR. I think it's a terrible idea, and you obviously love it and farm the hell out of it.

No we thank you for making rr day so special. Whenever I come across what we call a "rambo red" its great fun to proceed to crush the life out of them. I just found out about the rr day late yesterday, but whenever you rambo reds pop up its good times.

Fril Estelin · Oct 10, 2009, 06:23 PM // 18:23

This RR seems to me like the simple PvP equivalent of mindless PvE farming (raptors are actually more difficult than typing /resign). It's in no way the "game" as it was intended, but rather a loophole in the game as it was implemented.

SithLord2064 · Oct 10, 2009, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

Your previous posts state that you feel good when you annoy other people and enjoy seeing their frustration and rage expressed on screen. Basking in other people's misery is a character flaw the way I see it.

If that were the case, then I guess anyone playing as a Frustration/Interrupt Mesmer in PvP is included in your argument? After all, I LOVE hearing people bitch about how I'm a "noob" because I use Frustration. ^_^

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Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

Griefing other players, however, is a much clearer breach of conduct.

Is it REALLY griefing if I'm playing the game as it is DESIGNED to be played by NOT resigning as Red? Frankly, I'm with everyone who doesn't resign as Red. And the people that QQ because I'm actually trying to do it the "legit" way by not resigning is hilarious, IMO.

AtomicMew · Oct 10, 2009, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by SithLord2064

If that were the case, then I guess anyone playing as a Frustration/Interrupt Mesmer in PvP is included in your argument? After all, I LOVE hearing people bitch about how I'm a "noob" because I use Frustration. ^_^

In game mechanics is not the same as verbally harassing and insulting other players. One is a bannable offense the other is not. Do you know which?

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Is it REALLY griefing if I'm playing the game as it is DESIGNED to be played by NOT resigning as Red? Frankly, I'm with everyone who doesn't resign as Red. And the people that QQ because I'm actually trying to do it the "legit" way by not resigning is hilarious, IMO.

You are defending an argument no one is making. No one is saying not resigning as red is equivalent to griefing people.

Also, no one is QQing because you're trying to play "legit." In fact, you shouldnt even be facing many RRers unless you're absolutely WTF terrible.

jonnieboi05 · Oct 10, 2009, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by traversc

In fact, you shouldnt even be facing RRers unless you're absolutely WTF terrible.

Not true. I occassionaly get matched up with "WTF terrible" ranked people who want me to leave when I am on red. It's rare, but, I do end up with matches against them from time to time.

~LeNa~

Marverick · Oct 10, 2009, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

I've got a question: why are people abusing the system now via RR to boost their Commander title, while Linsey indicated that it'd be mutually exclusive from the new title associated to SD:

It's only mutually exclusive for HoM; it'll still give balth faction caps and stuff.

Plus what if you don't play SD or it turns out to be a steaming pile of shit?

*lemming* · Oct 10, 2009, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

2)I don't care how fast they gain keys. They feed my keys + give me my title regardless of if I'm blue or red.

TL;DR, I have great fun, farm at the same rate as RR people and don't have to resort to resigning to do it.

If you're playing, why wouldn't you want to maximize the amount of commander points/keys you're getting? They're doing it at least twice as fast as you, per account.

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Originally Posted by SithLord2064

Is it REALLY griefing if I'm playing the game as it is DESIGNED to be played by NOT resigning as Red? Frankly, I'm with everyone who doesn't resign as Red. And the people that QQ because I'm actually trying to do it the "legit" way by not resigning is hilarious, IMO.

It's a community-adopted convention, so you'd expect people to be a irritated when you don't go along with it.

Of course, anyone above rating 800 complaining about it is an idiot.

Zahr Dalsk · Oct 10, 2009, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by wilderness

And if they enjoy this aspect of the game then your problem is what exactly?

Where exactly did I say I have a problem with people acquiring commander?

Learn to read, please.

AtomicMew · Oct 10, 2009, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05

Not true. I occassionaly get matched up with "WTF terrible" ranked people who want me to leave when I am on red. It's rare, but, I do end up with matches against them from time to time.

What you're saying doesn't make any sense. I can't make head or tails of what you're getting at.

Is it supposed to be sarcasm? Are you saying that RRers are more "WTF terrible" than people who can't even get a rank above 800 on RR days?

makosi · Oct 10, 2009, 07:55 PM // 19:55

There are two ways of looking at this situation:

1) Lose out by being law-abiding, dignified and abstaining from such risqué activities or,

2) Enjoy it while you can, exploit it to your heart's content and reap the benefits.

It reminds me of the bug that allowed players to repeatedly do EotN primary quests and recieve the first-time reputation rewards so that they could max their Delver title in 30 minutes. I chose to abstain, fearing an account suspension, and I only lost out. I won't make a mistake like that again.

]HM[ Sabre Wolf · Oct 10, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Originally Posted by makosi

2) Enjoy it while you can, exploit it to your heart's content and reap the benefits.

Ya that’s how I look at it myself... Look at it as reaping the benefits...

But the interesting thing I find with RR is that...

1.) This was organized by the community... not a couple of rouge people... this is welcomed by almost all players at the same time to benefit each other... so its almost like a community coming together for a common purpose... money and Commander

2.) The "Rouge Reds" are nothing more then people that are actually playing the game... so what is the problem with that? Ya it stinks they are not going with the RR idea... but you can't be mad at them for actually playing the game like its suppose to be played.

3.) Although looked as "Mindless Farming” I prefer to call it "A Day Off". Playing this game 4-5 days a week, I sometimes want day off from actually playing the game, and just sit back and chat with my in-game friends. So, what better way to do that then sit back, make a lot of money to get you through the next week of playing while chatting in game and on vent. Making a couple of clicks it’s not much of a grind. Yes, it gets monotonous after an hour of doing it... and I find myself browsing websites and watching YouTube... But, atleast I get to hang out with my friends and get to know them better "outside" of the game.

But overall, it’s hard to argue a community coordinated event like RR that allows you to make a lot of money and chat with your friends all day to set you up for the next week of gaming. Yes, it does take advantage of a broken system for a quest by ANET... but it is fairly well coordinated Community Event.

byteme! · Oct 10, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

After reading this thread I've decided to log in and play the resign game just to piss some of you off.

Keyspa · Oct 10, 2009, 10:35 PM // 22:35

Some guy posted an idea earlier, to make this kinda like playing an FPS, like CS or sth. Make the gameplay good enough so that players will play it for no incentive other than fun.

Winstar · Oct 10, 2009, 10:55 PM // 22:55

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Originally Posted by ]HM[ Sabre Wolf

But overall, it’s hard to argue a community coordinated event like RR that allows you to make a lot of money and chat with your friends all day to set you up for the next week of gaming. Yes, it does take advantage of a broken system for a quest by ANET... but it is fairly well coordinated Community Event.

In this sense it is a sendoff that is better than the HB format deserves

I didn't even know people cared enough about this title to RR for it. As far as I knew people were doing it on HB z quest day for easy keys. In which case it is easily the fastest way to do it. Its also not true that the only people who do it are those who could never win otherwise. A lot of people intentionally tanked hundreds of ratings points to be in a position to never get anyone other than people who are cooperating.

Really, its just a more pervasive roll /100 event. If they want to do something about, the appropriate action would be to do something parallel to what they did with roll /100. Ideally, they let the good times roll until HB is gone.

Wild Rituals · Oct 10, 2009, 10:57 PM // 22:57

How are they going to tell the people who hero battle for real from the ones who do this lame RR thing?

it would be to hard, because there was plenty of people like me actually playing hero battles for real to be able to ban everyone.