Oct 24, 2009, 10:42 AM // 10:42
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#21
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: US
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Ketsu
Considering the insane cost, it really doesn't matter.
IMO spending reward points on shitty non-unlocks for a temporary character was dumb and using Zcoins is just as much a self rip-off. Exchange for Zkeys, sell Zkeys, Buy armor for PvE characters that actually lasts.
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They wanted to make PvP unlocks account wide but couldn't code it.
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Oct 24, 2009, 01:23 PM // 13:23
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#22
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Krytan Explorer
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how do you know?
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Oct 24, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21
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#23
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Is Penis Blade around this time ?
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Oct 24, 2009, 02:59 PM // 14:59
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#24
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Fellowship of Champions
Profession: R/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tehlemming
It's a 40% reduction on everything. 18 rp eotn armors would have been 30.
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Going from 20 rp to 18 rp for a basic armor is 10% not 40%, but they did make the Eotn headpeices basic tier. There is no 40% reduction on any armor.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tehlemming
I'm pretty sure the zcoin addition is only meant as a supplement to unlocking with RPs, not a replacement.
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No, it doesn't make sense for anyone to have the ability to make a pvp character and not have a path to unlock skins.
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Oct 24, 2009, 03:49 PM // 15:49
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#25
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The Hotshot
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Honolulu
Guild: International District [id多]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Ketsu
IMO spending reward points on shitty non-unlocks for a temporary character was dumb and using Zcoins is just as much a self rip-off. Exchange for Zkeys, sell Zkeys, Buy armor for PvE characters that actually lasts.
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Or make a permanent pvp.
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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
Going from 20 rp to 18 rp for a basic armor is 10% not 40%, but they did make the Eotn headpeices basic tier. There is no 40% reduction on any armor.
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Everything besides the EotN skins decreased 40%. Thus, it's probably safe to conclude that the 18 rp EotN armors would have been priced at 30.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
No, it doesn't make sense for anyone to have the ability to make a pvp character and not have a path to unlock skins.
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Yeah, because it's impossible to get RPs.
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Oct 24, 2009, 03:52 PM // 15:52
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#26
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Fellowship of Champions
Profession: R/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tehlemming
Or make a permanent pvp.
Everything besides the EotN skins decreased 40%. Thus, it's probably safe to conclude that the 18 rp EotN armors would have been priced at 30.
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Stop trolling. Its a known fact the price was 20 rp's its been that way for years.
Heres the link to the old price list
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Oct 24, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48
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#27
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The Hotshot
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Honolulu
Guild: International District [id多]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
Stop trolling. Its a known fact the price was 20 rp's its been that way for years.
Heres the link to the old price list
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Did you notice that everything originally priced at 20 rp costs 12 now?
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Oct 24, 2009, 06:43 PM // 18:43
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#28
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Battery Powered Best Friends [Vibe]
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
I'm not seeing a drastic reduction in rp's needed anywhere. You still have to unlock 50 basics armors to access the fancies. Seems they have been reduced from 20 rp's to 18 rp's or 36 silver zcoins for basic armor unlocks, but this is still unobtainable for 99.9 % of the GW population so you need 1800 silver or 180 gold zcoins to even look at the vabian/kurzick/fow unlocks. This is update is not helping anyone unlock squat, there is no vehicle in this game to generate that type of zcoin in less than two years.
Also the npc does not give you a choice between paying in zcoins or reward points, but takes the reward points automatically.
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It's barely even 1,000 RP to get up to fancy weapons. I don't see what the complaint about "unobtainable 99.9% of the GW population" is.
The NPC does give you a choice between Zaishen Coins and Reward Points. It's pretty clear which one he takes.
Last edited by lutz; Oct 24, 2009 at 06:46 PM // 18:46..
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Oct 24, 2009, 07:17 PM // 19:17
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#29
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Fellowship of Champions
Profession: R/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tehlemming
Did you notice that everything originally priced at 20 rp costs 12 now?
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I'm sure everything was 18 yesterday, but yes today I see the price for 12. I must have unwittingly only clicked on EoTN items and saw the 18.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lutz
It's barely even 1,000 RP to get up to fancy weapons. I don't see what the complaint about "unobtainable 99.9% of the GW population" is.
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I'm talking about the fancy armors not the weapons where they have three teirs. But where is someone going to get 1000 rps? A gvg tourny takes hours and you only get 15 for participating. If you are not top 16 gvg what can you do?
Last edited by Shadowspawn X; Oct 24, 2009 at 07:35 PM // 19:35..
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Oct 24, 2009, 08:08 PM // 20:08
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#30
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Krytan Explorer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradise Lost
Nope, if by still being able to select it you mean re-rolling a sin and instantly putting on your unlocked armor. It doesn't work like that, its the same as buying pve armor, its customized to your character. So if you delete that sin you also delete the armor. If you re-roll a sin later on, you would have to go and purchase the armor from tolkano all over again.
Bear in mind that if you have unlocked 50 normal armor pieces to achieve the exotic armor tier, that will always be available.
Weapons on the other hand can be put onto heros and transfered from character to character, which is helpful.
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Then this could be a problem for me. I always switch with my pvp characters so unless I dedicate one as permanent, buying armor would be a considerable waste.
Guess waiting on Tolkano wasn't worth it.
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Oct 24, 2009, 09:24 PM // 21:24
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#31
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Battery Powered Best Friends [Vibe]
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
I'm sure everything was 18 yesterday, but yes today I see the price for 12. I must have unwittingly only clicked on EoTN items and saw the 18.
I'm talking about the fancy armors not the weapons where they have three teirs. But where is someone going to get 1000 rps? A gvg tourny takes hours and you only get 15 for participating. If you are not top 16 gvg what can you do?
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If you're talking about armors, it's even less RPs.
You get 85 or so for winning an AT. There are so many free ATs it's not even funny.
You also must be forgetting the 1.5-year period where ArenaNet literally gave out 150 free RPs a month.
Last edited by lutz; Oct 24, 2009 at 09:27 PM // 21:27..
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Oct 24, 2009, 11:16 PM // 23:16
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#32
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: Guardians of the Light
Profession: W/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Metatail
Is Penis Blade around this time ?
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I don't think so. Didn't show the Lesser Arced Blade in his list. I guess Anet caught onto the rave from this sword. xD
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Oct 24, 2009, 11:38 PM // 23:38
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#33
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Dallas, Texas
Guild: Zero Quality [zQ] /[LaG]/[USA]/[iQ]
Profession: A/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Owik Gall
I don't think so. Didn't show the Lesser Arced Blade in his list. I guess Anet caught onto the rave from this sword. xD
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Greater Arced Blade
You are welcome.
Oh, and Lemming isn't trolling you. He is being polite and bringing out your intelligence... Or lack there of.
Fancy weapons definately used to be 50 RPs.
I'm not sayin, jus sayin.
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Oct 25, 2009, 12:02 AM // 00:02
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#34
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: Guardians of the Light
Profession: W/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator Motoko
Greater Arced Blade
You are welcome.
Oh, and Lemming isn't trolling you. He is being polite and bringing out your intelligence... Or lack there of.
Fancy weapons definately used to be 50 RPs.
I'm not sayin, jus sayin.
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o-o Let the perversion begin!
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Oct 25, 2009, 06:39 AM // 06:39
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#35
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: US
Guild: Diversionary Tactics [DT]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Ketsu
Considering the insane cost, it really doesn't matter.
IMO spending reward points on shitty non-unlocks for a temporary character was dumb and using Zcoins is just as much a self rip-off. Exchange for Zkeys, sell Zkeys, Buy armor for PvE characters that actually lasts.
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Who says pvp characters have to be temporary? My pvp warrior literally just got its 3rd year present today.
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Oct 25, 2009, 08:09 AM // 08:09
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#36
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Amsterdam
Guild: Bubblegum Dragons [GUM]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator Motoko
The only thing (I guess you were asking) is if I bought a voltaic spear on my warrior, and wanted one on my monk, I'd have to buy another voltaic spear.
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Actually there is a trick to move the weapon with skin to another character. Normally the weapon is customized for one character. You have to give it to one of your heroes on your first PvP character. Than you log into your seconds PvP character, select the same hero, get the spear. The spear is now customized for your second PvP character.
This only works between PvP characters!
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Oct 25, 2009, 08:53 AM // 08:53
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#37
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: US
Guild: Diversionary Tactics [DT]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jurrit
Actually there is a trick to move the weapon with skin to another character. Normally the weapon is customized for one character. You have to give it to one of your heroes on your first PvP character. Than you log into your seconds PvP character, select the same hero, get the spear. The spear is now customized for your second PvP character.
This only works between PvP characters!
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That is actually really cool to know. Thanks!
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