Originally Posted by JR

I hate to burst your bubble, but IWAY was "invented" back in beta, by Izzy. The original build was 8 hammer warriors, and the theory was entirely the same: Melee heavy pressure build focused on using pet bodies to fuel "I Will Avenge You!" for healing and stacking the IAS with stances. 8 hammers with stacked IAS and mass knockdowns was pretty fearsome, though the metagame forced it to change pretty quickly.

They started bringing sword warriors for Hamstring, then Eviscerate became dominant. Necros with Orders were added pretty quickly, one to begin with and then a second with Offering of Blood some more healing power. Trappers came later to counter other IWAY teams, and so you could do more than just farm Burial Mounds. That's pretty much when my interest in tombs died, and I'm sure there's been even more ridiculous incarnations with paragons and rits since.


What really makes you leet? Knowing your history.

[EDIT: You certainly weren't responsible for the spirit spam nerf, either.]

[EDIT2: Izzy also invented Thumpers, if you want something else to blame on him.]

Originally Posted by Lord Bleyz

I did not play in Beta and was unaware of Izzy's builds, but I do remember seeing the White Mantle Ritulist (orders necro) and IWAY Warriors in prophicies. So I'll just go ahead and believe you about Izzy doing it first, seeing as he's a dev he wins at Guild Wars GG...

As far as creating IWAY no I didn't do that, nor was I claiming that. In fact what we ran was Berserk which consisted of Tigers Fury Axe Warriors with pets and 55 orders necros. The pets were there to add to confusion and mask the fact that orders necs were sitting at spawn casting. This build was not carefully put together it was created to include people who lacked the ability to play more complicated builds. Berserk was only run by a dozen or so times and only once did a guild member have IWAY on his bar. Come to think of it there probably were a few pugs in our group that run. Despite that we never took halls with that build.

You see there was this guild called Sissy Boys who hosted a very large vent sever and invited pvp orientated guilds so there would be a large pool of pvp players to choose as pugs. My guild at the time The Highlords [tHL] had a channel. When we lacked people to play tombs we invited pugs along from SB vent to play Berserk or N-Bombs.

From what I remember it was the guild Digital Gangsters[dgs] or maybe Angry Bussiness Men [AB] first took halls with a Berserk like IWAY Build(yes I'm refering to POST beta builds of IWAY). And yes we played with several pugs from DGS and AB so it's possible that they took much of their build from Berserk. But who knows maybe Izzy played with them at one point and gave them the idea.

The fact remains Berserk was created prior to 08/13/2005
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=guild+wars#

IWAY became popular a few months after.

The guild [MATH] created a video dedicated to [tHL] Link to post
http://guildwars.incgamers.com/showthread.php?t=377889
*file hosting site deleted movie but I think I can dig up a copy*

As far as me boasting, I was intoxicated to say the least.

What's up Martin, thanks for chiming in

Originally Posted by Sha Noran

Oh yeah, and owning this staff:



Which I do.

Thread still over.

Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

If you run down into the mobs and wipe 'em out instead of using the catapults in the Ft. Ranick mission, you're l33t. If you do it solo, you're uber-l33t.

Originally Posted by Scar ra

Please excuse my horrible grammer

Ladys and Gentlemen there is a pandemic hitting guildwars.
Its a horrible disease stricking guildwars players everywhere...
Players, from all walks of life, are being striken with this horrible disease.
The common syptoms begin with a urge to purchase so called ``Rare`` items and armour. With in game money purchased from websites.
Followed by a complete lack of sense saying things like.
`Noob ive been playing since Beta` or
`Im the one who came up with IWAY`
Then the disease really starts to rear its ugly head.......
The player begins having a sense of accomplishment over doing nothing.
The player insists he is the best player in the game wether PvP or Pve,
Taking credit for all builds found on Wiki......trolling all fan forums...
Buying FOW armour, a mask of mo zing for a monk then dye`n it all black...followed by paying a run through the whole game.
Please if you see these players do not party with them this is very infectious...
Be aware and get your vaccination.

Please add other symptoms if you have noticed any.....we need this to stop

Originally Posted by JR

@Bleyz: Fair enough, I do remember tHL being around at that time. I'd forgotten how prominent you guys were back then, and I do recall seeing you on sB vent.



I have no idea who Brother Mhenlo is/was, other than a fairly bad henchman.

I had a Fleshweaver (OoB Boon Prot days) customised by WM Berry, which was pretty amazing.

Originally Posted by Scar ra

Please excuse my horrible grammer

Ladys and Gentlemen there is a pandemic hitting guildwars.
Its a horrible disease stricking guildwars players everywhere...
Players, from all walks of life, are being striken with this horrible disease.
The common syptoms begin with a urge to purchase so called ``Rare`` items and armour. With in game money purchased from websites.
Followed by a complete lack of sense saying things like.
`Noob ive been playing since Beta` or
`Im the one who came up with IWAY`
Then the disease really starts to rear its ugly head.......
The player begins having a sense of accomplishment over doing nothing.
The player insists he is the best player in the game wether PvP or Pve,
Taking credit for all builds found on Wiki......trolling all fan forums...
Buying FOW armour, a mask of mo zing for a monk then dye`n it all black...followed by paying a run through the whole game.
Please if you see these players do not party with them this is very infectious...
Be aware and get your vaccination.

Please add other symptoms if you have noticed any.....we need this to stop