Curse

optymind · Nov 18, 2009, 01:56 PM // 13:56

With the demise of UW, FOW is now the next target to be hit. Shard prices are spiraling out of control downwards. Times are 13-15minutes to clear an elite area! Elite areas should take at least 30mins!

We need a new holiday questline that introduces Balthazar's Champions... Paragons (very fitting with fow) and has Anthem of Disruption. Other skill ideas: "You're all alone!" which would reinforce teamplay... Fear me/None shall pass for pure annoyance.

Or just simply made the Tower Mage take damage when hit.

Malice Black · Nov 18, 2009, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Elite areas should take hours, but that doesn't go with the GW mind frame these days.

upier · Nov 18, 2009, 02:08 PM // 14:08

It's funny because some of us said that's exactly what would happen.

Abedeus · Nov 18, 2009, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Anthem of Disruption is useless. They can't hit what you can't hit. Yeah.

Fixing SF would be still better.

Latham · Nov 18, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Elite areas should take hours, but that doesn't go with the GW mind frame these days.

Hours ? God no. Takes just under an hour to clear FoW with a balanced team build in Hard Mode.

You honestly don't need a new quest line, the problem is SF.

Reflect · Nov 18, 2009, 02:36 PM // 14:36

SF
Shadow Form
Swine Flu ...

mathiastemplar · Nov 18, 2009, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Leave as it is... q_q theads won't help...
Personally Idc.. 20 mins SC is fine.. If you dislike SC, just use oldschool teams..

Did you complain about FoWsc before UW was nerfed? NO...
Stop it...
gg

Eragon Zarroc · Nov 18, 2009, 02:39 PM // 14:39

They made RoJ scatter enemies which screwed with the original SC. You must now wait a year before they make another simple nerf that can be worked around . Sorry

Reformed · Nov 18, 2009, 03:13 PM // 15:13

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Originally Posted by upier

It's funny because some of us said that's exactly what will happen.

QFT. Then when nobody is doing any Elites outside of organized Guild groups they'll cry about that. There are so many "balanced" UW PuGs now forming in TotA I just don't know which one to join! /sarc If FoW goes you can quote me on this. Best case scenario we get 5-man shard farm back, possibly beach run for people who want to screw with the drops. Worst case scenario TotA becomes a ghost town outside of 600's and spider or Obsidian runs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

Anthem of Disruption is useless. They can't hit what you can't hit. Yeah.

Anthem of Disruption doesn't need to hit to interrupt. That doesn't just mean SF, obstruction doesn't stop the effect either.

Abedeus · Nov 18, 2009, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by Reformed

Anthem of Disruption doesn't need to hit to interrupt. That doesn't just mean SF, obstruction doesn't stop the effect either.

Well what do you know, it doesn't... Weird, but would be nice.

Then again, it would piss off also normal players.

Symeon · Nov 18, 2009, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathiastemplar

Leave as it is... q_q theads won't help...
Personally Idc..(Note: poster actually does care as he doesn't want his beloved SC to be nerfed.) 20 mins SC is fine.. If you dislike SC, just use oldschool teams..

Did you complain about FoWsc before UW was nerfed? NO...
Stop it...
gg
(Summary: DUN LIKE IT DUN USE IT)

I'm not going to bother with the rest since this is something like the 9162506256th post of its kind, so I'll just address the last part: People have always complained about any elite area being completed in less than half an hour, as well as anything involving Shadow Form. FoWSC is both of these, therefore you are wrong.

I expect if ANet responds at all they will waste more of their time fiddling with each elite area in turn rather than resorting to the obvious solution.

Arduin · Nov 18, 2009, 04:13 PM // 16:13

3 hours for an elite area sounds about right. The thing is, a lot of people aren't playing those elite area's anymore, they are farming them.

Reformed · Nov 18, 2009, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by Symeon

People have always complained about any elite area being completed in less than half an hour...

Really? Where were the complaints back when teams were all vying in competition for the lowest possible Deep and Urgoz clear times? Some of those got low, stupidly low, like sub 15 minute Urgoz. The truth is you don't agree with his/her opinion it's not about wrong and right.

Azure Requiem · Nov 18, 2009, 04:22 PM // 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Elite areas should take hours, but that doesn't go with the GW mind frame these days.

If fow and uw saved progress I would agree to this. But dcing or people up and leaving can make an entire group waste time this way. That is a flaw in gw game design though, instanced areas are nice, but inability to replace a dcer /leaver sucks.

Arduin · Nov 18, 2009, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azure Requiem

If fow and uw saved progress I would agree to this. But dcing or people up and leaving can make an entire group waste time this way. That is a flaw in gw game design though, instanced areas are nice, but inability to replace a dcer /leaver sucks.

dcer - Reconnect function.
leaver - voteban from Alliance.

Seriously, if you want to come and complete this area, and it has been stated it takes ~3hrs, stay with the party for 3hrs or don't bother to come.

Of course, sometimes people are forced to leave because their cat just ate their goldfish, but that doesn't happen very often, does it?

Azure Requiem · Nov 18, 2009, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arduinna

dcer - Reconnect function.
leaver - voteban from Alliance.

Seriously, if you want to come and complete this area, and it has been stated it takes ~3hrs, stay with the party for 3hrs or don't bother to come.

Of course, sometimes people are forced to leave because their cat just ate their goldfish, but that doesn't happen very often, does it?

The reconnect function does not always work. And once you are in if someone leaves halfway through and is a key members (ie heals/protter) then your group is screwed and the time has already been wasted.

Sword Hammer Axe · Nov 18, 2009, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reflect

SF
Shadow Form
Swine Flu ...

Super Fudge
Silly Fart

and so on

Get my point? XD

Little O B S I · Nov 18, 2009, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Make Shadow Form a stance.

Winterclaw · Nov 18, 2009, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Shard prices were inflated for too long, it's about time they went back down.

Phineas · Nov 18, 2009, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arduinna

dcer - Reconnect function.
leaver - voteban from Alliance.

Seriously, if you want to come and complete this area, and it has been stated it takes ~3hrs, stay with the party for 3hrs or don't bother to come.

Of course, sometimes people are forced to leave because their cat just ate their goldfish, but that doesn't happen very often, does it?

Depends... How many goldfish have you got?

OT: Paragons are not a Core class, and I am sure I've read before where ANet want FoW to be as Core as possible. So.. we're back to looking for new 'monster skills' (which are broken imo).