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Old Apr 26, 2010, 09:37 AM // 09:37   #61
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PvP, and GvG in particular, can be hard to get into. Before the skill split, it was already tough, and now with the skill split, it is especially tough. The point I want to make is that PvE should be more engaging, and that the whole brain dead button pushing doesn't really condition people for the jump to pvp (if they so desire). The problem is, pvp is a very active game type compared to pve. Even when pve wasn't piss easy, pvp was more active. The point is, with pve the way it is now, it doesn't expose people to playing actively or well until they decide to pvp. Then they get owned, and that's the end of that, they give up, and go back to button mashing.
I pretty much agree with you. As i said, i think that PvE "needs" to be easy from a commercial point of view. It's ANet interest to keep people playing, but if no new content is released frequently, it's natural that people become bored and less willing to play actively, so they need something very easy to do, or they quit. Then, as Essence Snow said, not everybody is like this, there are also those who play actively in PvE, sure. But it seems to me that these people aren't the majority.

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I don't know if this is necessarily the case with everyone. Judging the additudes of the PvP crowd on here.....that is by far the no. 1 reason I will not even give GW PvP a chance. The second reason, is that I prefer simulation style games to PvP in and RPG to PvE in, thus making GW more attractive to me for PvE. Those who think PvE is merely button mashing don't know PvE too well. The same can be said for PvP (vent 3 2 1 spike come to mind) although this is not always the case. So in closing, I play PvE to play PvE, not to prepare for PvP. I simply prefer other types of games to PvP in and get my fill of jerks offs there and don't want to taint my GW playing with the like.
You are perfectly right when you say that PvE isn't always button smashing, and PvP isn't populated only by pros, and also when you say that everybody should be free to play how he prefers. I didn't wanted to say that everybody should jump into PvP, i apologize if i couldn't express clearly my thoughts. I was trying to say that, in my opinion, a lot of people who would jump into PvP if it wasn't so difficult or if there was tournaments or something also for less experienced people, simply decide not to do this jump, and this is bad for all the PvP community (and maybe also for those people, who could have enjoyed that experience). Also notice that "jump" isn't always the right word, becouse someone can do both PvE and PvP, so it's not like a sex change, you know

Then, there are those who don't like PvP, and those who don't like PvE, but i'm fine with both. Sorry for having brought the PvP talk into this thread, let's come back to the original topic if you like.

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I'm not gonna argue against you just for arguments sake, I know what you're trying to say and I agree with you.
Didn't want to start any fight, i think there's some communication issue on my side
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