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Quail Stomp · May 09, 2010, 05:46 PM // 17:46

You can meet some really nice people in pugs, its just sometimes there is one a-hole that screws it up for everyone. I have caught a good amount of crap in pvp but my two favorite classes to play is mesmer and monk. I can understand a pblock mes pissing people off so, yeah.

DigitalFear · May 09, 2010, 06:32 PM // 18:32

'Go wiki that for me'
RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO, just do it yourself.

Ariovist Lynxkind · May 09, 2010, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by Benderama

Me and my friend went into AB as a 55 monk and 600 monk for lolz once XD. although we actually helped quite a bit (RoJ is fun ^^) some assassin spammed that we were leechers, though we were actually doing something. then reported us even though we'd accomplished mroe than he had. ah well ^^. also the general PvP people who argue that a skill is better than another skill because it does something completely different. Thank goodness they're in the minority in GW ;D

Wonder if that person realised that they need 1/3 of the group to report you as leechers in order for you to get dishonour. I am guessing that quota wasnt met, so he got them himself.

Running passengers: got 2 incidents

One was a Droks run the other week. I normally go into a mob and kill myself so I can watch the runner and one of the other passengers started cracking it, worried I would get their survivor char killed on Dreadnaughts Drift (which I didn't). They actually zoned when another mob got too close to them (and the runner was halfway through). While I was being considerate, running into the mob which didnt come near the portal area, it is also a bit of common sense not to take a survivor on that run when there is a high chance of death.

The second was just last night, but I see it frequently. In this case it was the Rata run, but you could apply it elsewhere too. You go into an outpost looking for a run and someone says they are trial-running, usually for tips. There most of the time seems to be one person who joins the group and either complains or generally is an ass whenever the runner dies and either gives them crap verbally while running, or very little in payment at the end. For me, I usually give full payment, and congratulate them (it may have taken a bit longer, but hey, they got there) because they can get better and it is another runner in the system, but you do get the impatient ones

Cuilan · May 09, 2010, 08:28 PM // 20:28

There should be some level of "rudeness" as it helps to hurt people who hurt others without words. People shouldn't walk away pleasantly while they ruin someone else's play.

Kicking people by profession and whispering them "no need [profession]" while on my mesmer sounds very rewarding and tempting, though.

Zahr Dalsk · May 09, 2010, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Cuilan

Kicking people by profession and whispering them "no need [profession]" while on my mesmer sounds very rewarding and tempting, though.

>be a monk
>get kicked by mesmer leader
>join one of the many groups looking for monks
>come back after mission
>mesmer's group is still there looking for monk

Turbo Ginsu · May 09, 2010, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

It seems like most of my experience with rude people is while trading. Just a few smallish peeves of mine while trading:

- People who ignore offers (a simple "nty" is a reasonable response minimally)

- People who won't give you an asking price and then act insulted at your initial offer. (if you refuse to throw out the first number, don't be shocked it what might come your way. A simple counter-offer is a reasonable response).

- People who always want you to knock 500g off your asking price (it's such a minor amount...)

- People who want your to show them stuff you clearly described already and can be seen on wiki. Yes, it's rude.

- People who say, "I'll buy" and then put a lower amount in the trade window (or worst case a bunch of items). I'm always receptive to a different offer but don't tell me "I'll buy" when you aren't giving me my asking price.

- People who put "serious offers only" or "no noob offers" in the trade window. I think a better way to do this is to post something like 100k+xx ecto or like. Obviously if the person has no idea what the thing is worth they aren't going to even be able to recognize that their offer is "not serious".

- People who try trading with full parties. Not so much rude, but just a pain when I can just do a simple add to party and then double click their name to find them. Minimally give me a description "I'm standing on the bridge", "I'm the Golem", etc...

- People who beg for the sale. Seriously, I'm one of the more generous people in the game and rarely ever sell anything for true market value. If you can't afford it from me, you can't afford it period...

This post say it all. Especially Point #2. What's the point in that? I asked for a c/o on an item yesterday, dude says: "Some feeb offered me 10k, ra ra ra.." To which I replied, "What would you consider fair?" He then launched into a 15 minte spiel about how his item was worth God's toenails because it was non-insc bla-bla-bla.."

All I wanted was a price ffs. I had plenty of $$, prolly enough to buy the item 5 times over, but because the dude wouldn't just play it straight, well, also because he was out to scam anyway (I knew what it was worth before I asked

), he dipped out.

I've been building a fair little nest egg lately, but because of a combination of how rude most sellers are these days, and that 95% of them are out to get rich quick by scamming all and sundry, I daresay when I do spend it, it'll be obby armors and chaos gloves that get it, not ripoff-merchant traders.

I now have a couple traders I buy from, and that's it. IMO, you want rude asshats, go try some trading..

Mireles · May 09, 2010, 10:50 PM // 22:50

I think majority of rudeness stems from people taking the game way to seriously, this is why you find more rudeness in pvp than u will find in pve.

Some people get a self-esteem boost out of it....

Some people just have no people skills....

Some people just like being rude...

Internet = Raw humanity... it will never go away until behavior becomes regulated.

As for guild invites.... it does get really old especially when a person spams you constantly after you have said no... I suggest more barriers to entry to own a guild... higher cost... high accomplishment ect ect... majority of guilds i get asked by are new and/or desperate for members.... if i had to guess.... id say there is 1 guild for every 4 players in guild wars... just a guess

And that is what the ever so great invention of an ignore list is for...

Risus · May 10, 2010, 05:56 AM // 05:56

if you hate all the idiot powertraders in spamadan (by idiot I mean the ones who pm you an exteremely low offer then cuss you out when you say no etc), just say "wts _______ for ______ e (at least 20e cheaper than a low price) and set yourself to do not disturb.

And to everyone qqing about assholes in ra, turn off all and team chat and set yourself to do not disturb. Stop whining its a 5 second fix

SirSausage · May 10, 2010, 09:36 AM // 09:36

Some time ago I played FA on the kurzick side with my warrior. Around 5mins after the match has started, our team gets dominated. I kept dying, because there were not many healers around. Suddenly an ele on my team kept yelling in teamchat that I was useless and pinged my corpse. I told him to calm down and that it's just a game. Can't exactly remember what he replied, but it wasn't very polite of him.

Morphy · May 10, 2010, 01:06 PM // 13:06

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Originally Posted by Tobi Madera

oh yea i get my share of people when i try to do pvp. Kinda killed the whole HA/RA thing for me. I mena jsut b/c u arent doing something ur new @ doesnt mean ur a "pve f***tard. I mean some ppl jsut want to have fun and play the game. i think alot(mostly in pvp but alot in SCs) that ppl jsut gotta realize its a game. Ok so what if u wipe 10mins inot a SC? uve lsot 10mins.. not a big deal. So yes ive had my fair share of blame/hate. It comes w/ games. ppl on an internet that cant be seen face to face w/out consequence will do really stupid stuff ;p.

If you're bad, get better and suck it up. Problem fixed.

Swahnee · May 10, 2010, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by Morphy

If you're bad, get better and suck it up. Problem fixed.

Being bad is not a reason to be insulted. This happens only because insulting people stay behind the safety of a screen, and they know that they won't be punished for being rude. Try to insult your teammates or your opponents when you play a real sport and see what happens.

Morphy · May 10, 2010, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by Swahnee

Being bad is not a reason to be insulted. This happens only because insulting people stay behind the safety of a screen, and they know that they won't be punished for being rude. Try to insult your teammates or your opponents when you play a real sport and see what happens.

Some people you meet in games are jack-asses, so if you absolutely don't want to get insulted you have to get better. It's that simple. I personally wouldn't insult people in-game, but as we all know from experience not everyone is as forgiving.

Quail Stomp · May 10, 2010, 03:51 PM // 15:51

From what i have seen in game the ones that act like jack-asses are the bad players so i dont bother with them.

FoxBat · May 10, 2010, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by Morphy

Some people you meet in games are jack-asses, so if you absolutely don't want to get insulted you have to get better.

Most of them insult you when you're clearly better too, this really has nothing to do with it.

Swahnee · May 10, 2010, 04:44 PM // 16:44

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Originally Posted by Morphy

Some people you meet in games are jack-asses, so if you absolutely don't want to get insulted you have to get better. It's that simple. I personally wouldn't insult people in-game, but as we all know from experience not everyone is as forgiving.

Yes, i see, but you can't say that people shouldn't complain about bad behavior, expecially in a forum which isn't a chat, which means that here we can discuss more deeply about subjects like these. Don't argue with morons in chat is a good suggestion, if you meant that, but i see no reason not to talk about this problem in this forum. I say this because your little answer to the other guy seemed something like: "stop qq'ing, it's your fault". I hope i understood wrong, though.

And however, like this guy said:

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Most of them insult you when you're clearly better too, this really has nothing to do with it.

it seems that a lot of people are jackasses only for the sake of it: they don't insult you because you are bad and you are wasting their precious times (which however isn't a good reason for insulting), but only for the sense of gratification and power they feel when they can abuse someone else. Which means that if you eventually get better, they will still be there insulting you.

Unfortunately, anonymity leads to this: even if you want to have good results and the other guy makes you lose with his badness, in real life it would be much more difficult to insult him, because people know who you are, and you have a reputation you want to defend (i hope

). In the Internet, instead, you are free to insult everyone all day long without worries.

Charlie Dayman · May 10, 2010, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Most of my annoyances have already been listed by other posters here. But one of my more memorable times was during a play through Jade Quarry. I normally run knockdown along with some para shouts so I can switch between fighting and assisting jade runners.

During one match, our team was getting steam rolled pretty badly and could only hold the purple quarry. For the first half I tried to help take back yellow quarry with 1-2 other players. The rest of the team were pretty scattered/dead and were only playing individually. One warrior can't really do much against a full quarry and 3-4 enemy players, ya know? Since no one was really helping, I started to run the purple Juggernaut to make up for our score count.

It was at this point some guy started barking orders at me and constantly complained how I should be out killing things and NOT helping the Juggernaut. Although, I didn't pay much attention to him since he was only camping a guard post. If he wanted me to go out and help secure quarries, he should have moved his ass to where help was needed.

In the end, the match stretched a full 10 minutes or so and tied at 9:9.

colosusjokers · May 11, 2010, 08:05 AM // 08:05

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Originally Posted by Swahnee

Yes, i see, but you can't say that people shouldn't complain about bad behavior, especially in a forum which isn't a chat, which means that here we can discuss more deeply about subjects like these. Don't argue with morons in chat is a good suggestion, if you meant that, but i see no reason not to talk about this problem in this forum. I say this because your little answer to the other guy seemed something like: "stop qq'ing, it's your fault". I hope i understood wrong, though.

I'm sure you read him right. The post he made after that was just a lie to try to make himself look like the "good guy" trying to give advice rather than insult the one he was replying to. He doesn't seem to of done a good job of it to me. After all if he was giving advice he would of worded it differently.

Graveheart · May 11, 2010, 09:03 AM // 09:03

you want rudeness?port to fa.
There is a general hate from some eliteist nazis.
Example no melees,or trapper on lux side ,heck i even seen someone screaming in town that we shouldnt have monks.
I think my best answer was when i was trapping the portal and the rude guy of the case is next to me whining and yelling useless.
Only to see 7 kurz going for amber fell for it.
I guess the only way to deal with it is quite simple,the game is ment to be played by you and no kid has the right to dictate to you how to play.
So pretty much ignore them,and keep playing as you see it as fun for you.

khezial tahr · May 11, 2010, 05:24 PM // 17:24

A friend an I did the Zmission a week or so ago in late Prophecies. We both went in as monks. Joined a group and went on our way. 1/4 of the way through the mission and my friend is directing people where to go (they did not know for sure) and calling for people to pull in spots and giving suggestions on how to not wipe out the party. For the record, his suggestions were correct. Out of nowhere one guy starts flaming him. He did not even start out slowly, he called him every name in the book. The rest of the party asked him to stop, then TOLD him to stop. Finally he told my friend to piss off.

So he laughed and said fine. And left. I stayed in to see the reaction. The rude guy then said " We don't need two monks anyway. We can still do it." I responded with a laugh. "He's my friend. And no, you can't still do it and left as well." This was halfway through.

Back in town we were grabbed right away went straight back out and finished it in no time flat. Doing the same things he suggested the first time around. two days later I'm in a group and that same guy joins for the Zmission. I laughed and told the leader he was a jerk off and we should kick him. Thankfully he did.

Moral of the story is: Don;t want to play with rudeness? Then don't. I agree with people above, play to have fun. If they asses give you a hard time, find new people to play with.

Ariovist Lynxkind · May 11, 2010, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by khezial tahr

A friend an I did the Zmission a week or so ago in late Prophecies. We both went in as monks. Joined a group and went on our way. 1/4 of the way through the mission and my friend is directing people where to go (they did not know for sure) and calling for people to pull in spots and giving suggestions on how to not wipe out the party. For the record, his suggestions were correct. Out of nowhere one guy starts flaming him. He did not even start out slowly, he called him every name in the book. The rest of the party asked him to stop, then TOLD him to stop. Finally he told my friend to piss off.

So he laughed and said fine. And left. I stayed in to see the reaction. The rude guy then said " We don't need two monks anyway. We can still do it." I responded with a laugh. "He's my friend. And no, you can't still do it and left as well." This was halfway through.

Back in town we were grabbed right away went straight back out and finished it in no time flat. Doing the same things he suggested the first time around. two days later I'm in a group and that same guy joins for the Zmission. I laughed and told the leader he was a jerk off and we should kick him. Thankfully he did.

Moral of the story is: Don;t want to play with rudeness? Then don't. I agree with people above, play to have fun. If they asses give you a hard time, find new people to play with.

I... would have done things a tad bit differently. I am the kind to persevere with a jack-ass until they inevitably quit because to me quitting halfway through is letting the other X amount of players in the team down and can be seen as being just as bad.

no offence to you, but just saying