Curse

Hells Fury · May 26, 2010, 09:56 AM // 09:56

Looking at that site with bots i think it's even dangerous to be in the same district with bots. For example that EDITED :lets just call it some chest running bot . Person who isn't using bot and running repeatedly those chests for lucky points might be reported for botting and perma banned.
Hell atm i can't think out any reason why would anyone refuse to buy another gw account and load a bot. This might be the reason why they aren't doing anything about it.
Keeping the thread alive.

The Josip · May 26, 2010, 11:13 AM // 11:13

Stop complaining about the bots. Bots are not a bad thing, bots are a byproduct of a bad thing.

Repetitive, linear gameplay, that rewards time over skill = bad.

Bots are the cure.

(Note: there are some exceptions, but none in PvE)

Kumu Honua · May 26, 2010, 11:26 AM // 11:26

If you don't like repetitive linear gameplay, then don't play the games with repetitive linear gameplay.

Bots are degenerate. They serve no beneficial purpose to the health of a game. You can already see the damage done by the parasites that use them. Just try to play Jade Quarry. You can't get a game without at least one useless bot.

Bots and those who use them should be eradicated like the infestation they are.

zwei2stein · May 26, 2010, 11:28 AM // 11:28

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Originally Posted by The Josip

Stop complaining about the bots. Bots are not a bad thing, bots are a byproduct of a bad thing.

Repetitive, linear gameplay, that rewards time over skill = bad.

PvP is not grind, yet people bot it.

Current "falken botting" is not driven by grind either. Just by profit.

You might have point about drink bots and such, but not about current botting scene, not by far.

Zebideedee · May 26, 2010, 11:36 AM // 11:36

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Originally Posted by lemming

yeah it was definitely to buy armor

Thats absolutely disgusting!

Test Me · May 26, 2010, 11:40 AM // 11:40

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Originally Posted by The Josip

Stop complaining about the bots. Bots are not a bad thing, bots are a byproduct of a bad thing.

It's true. And most of us still playing are definitively as bots!

But there is another side to it, that is as time goes by people tend to automate things. So it is normal that people (that can) write code to automate what they "bot-by-hand" to bot by software automatically instead.

In reality if someone would take the time they could write a software bot that emulates the human behavior so its undetectable, making it fail sometimes on purpose like humans do, or take random breaks or walk randomly... anything we do in GW can be done automatically in a software, not very complex one either

I know a lot of people here have this impression that GW is skillful play, but that's not so true, all GW play can be automated and done better by machines

which in my opinion is the exact opposite of skill.

Karate Jesus · May 26, 2010, 12:44 PM // 12:44

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Originally Posted by lemming

I imagine profit is part of it.

He's made a solid amount of money selling bots, considering that it's more of a hobby for him than anything else. There's an obvious profit to be made from producing bots and Anet sure seems to be profiting off of them.

EDIT: Oh, and it looks like Gaile went down her talk page and answered a bunch of questions. Guess which one she skipped over? Yep, our little botting question was ignored as if it were that chick with the headgear who sits in the corner at prom.

Classy move.

Eragon Zarroc · May 26, 2010, 12:55 PM // 12:55

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Originally Posted by lemming

I imagine profit is part of it.

perhaps these people are just making gui's to try and scam people into buying them? i mean, i can make a gui that doesn't do anything at all real quick, lol.

anybody wanna buy? only tree-fitty ;-) lololol

Karate Jesus · May 26, 2010, 12:58 PM // 12:58

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

perhaps these people are just making gui's to try and scam people into buying them? i mean, i can make a gui that doesn't do anything at all real quick, lol.

anybody wanna buy? only tree-fitty ;-)

Unfortunately, it's not just a gui. It's a working bot. I know Danny pretty well, and he has several bots that run well (including one that can do ToPK for ectos). I've seen this one in action personally. It works.

Tullzinski · May 26, 2010, 01:26 PM // 13:26

ANET, just make it all for free at this point. Put in a Santa Claus NPC, type in what you want and HO F&@$ing HO Santa awards it to you. Everyone can fill up their HOM and get whatever the hell you want. No need to bot anymore since the motive will be removed. Why bot when you can it for free.

If you do not want to use Santa then don't. This is beyond crazy at this point.

Karate Jesus · May 26, 2010, 02:22 PM // 14:22

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Originally Posted by Tullzinski

ANET, just make it all for free at this point. Put in a Santa Claus NPC, type in what you want and HO F&@$ing HO Santa awards it to you. Everyone can fill up their HOM and get whatever the hell you want. No need to bot anymore since the motive will be removed. Why bot when you can it for free.

If you do not want to use Santa then don't. This is beyond crazy at this point.

People would still bot PvP titles.....

snaek · May 26, 2010, 02:52 PM // 14:52

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

PvP is not grind, yet people bot it.

*cough*pvptitles*cough*

Essence Snow · May 26, 2010, 03:05 PM // 15:05

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Unfortunately, it's not just a gui. It's a working bot. I know Danny pretty well, and he has several bots that run well (including one that can do ToPK for ectos). I've seen this one in action personally. It works.

Just wondering if you have reported him yet? U know ban the botters.

Amy Awien · May 26, 2010, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by Test Me

...But there is another side to it, that is as time goes by people tend to automate things. So it is normal that people (that can) write code to automate what they "bot-by-hand" to bot by software automatically instead.

If people would write their own bots that would at least be some accomplichment.

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

Just wondering if you have reported him yet? U know ban the botters.

Well, strictly speaking, if he wrote the software then it is not third-party software and therefore his account is not bannable for using third-party software.

But most botters will likely just abuse something other people created.

Karate Jesus · May 26, 2010, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

Just wondering if you have reported him yet? U know ban the botters.

Who? Danny? He's been reported more times than I can count. I think he may have even reported himself.

Anet doesn't care. Hell, half of the bot-script writers I know have never been banned....ever. Not once.

Firebaall · May 26, 2010, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Sounds like a resounding "approval" to bot.

No comments from Anet staff. Lots of extra accounts around, no longer being used for XTH. Sounds like a recipe for a bot bumper crop.

From what I read on that bot site, the enabler in this whole fiasco is the .dll injection of the graphics.dll file that is permitted for "legal" user mods. It might be time to brush off some of those extra accounts, and put them to "work".

Get off your hands Anet. Silence speaks volumes.

Tullzinski · May 26, 2010, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

People would still bot PvP titles.....

screw it give em those too....

Test Me · May 26, 2010, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

If people would write their own bots that would at least be some accomplichment.

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Who? Danny? He's been reported more times than I can count. I think he may have even reported himself.

Anet doesn't care. Hell, half of the bot-script writers I know have never been banned....ever. Not once.

Need I say more? Read the above. Software engineers can have a hobby you know? Some contribute to open source, some write GW bots... to each his own.

Zahr Dalsk · May 26, 2010, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

If you don't like repetitive linear gameplay, then don't play the games with repetitive linear gameplay.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but Guild Wars is MARKETED AS A GAME WITHOUT REPETITIVE LINEAR GAMEPLAY.

Bobby2 · May 26, 2010, 04:57 PM // 16:57

This thread has taken a turn for the utterly hilarious, keep em coming