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majoho · May 18, 2010, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Would you guys stop discussing actual botting and stick to complaining about their existence.

Karate Jesus · May 18, 2010, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by fowlero

Not all the scripts are given out free. For instance the protbot is now only out there because Amd posted it, he originally paid 20 euro for it.

The specific bot he mentioned has always been free, or at least it has been free for quite a while (around a year).

Oh, look....this thread is 30 pages now.....still no reply? Wow, I'm shocked

Move Down · May 18, 2010, 05:08 PM // 17:08

I hope bots kill the game now after what NCsoft did to me.
Banning me for botting while i didnt run a bot.
If anyone has a bot for me send it then please then i can try it i dont care if my other accounts get banned now anymore.
I just want to see if they can detect a bot because and i serious doubt that.

Eragon Zarroc · May 18, 2010, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Oh, look....this thread is 30 pages now.....still no reply? Wow, I'm shocked

lol, we are just a bunch of scrubs bickering back and forth about botting ;-) it's not exactly 30 pages of signed petitions. more like 5 pages of petitions, 10 pages of botting discussion, 15 pages of off-topic. lolololol

Scarlett Romanov · May 18, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Move Down

I just want to see if they can detect a bot because and i serious doubt that.

I'm starting to wonder about their bot detection methods too.

1. We know in-game reports go to limbo.
2. Manual website reports don't seem to get checked because those leechers, bots are always still there after the report.
3. There are droves of bots in places like ZoS/Bergen. Apparently some of them have been doing it long enough to achieve oracle of wisdom. -_- If there was somethign in place "checking" them they'd clearly be marked as bots.

merek · May 18, 2010, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Originally Posted by Gaile:
"Botter, eh? We love nailing botters. I know some people get one a high horse and say that we don't do anything about botters. But I see the reports and I know that we do. And players who are paying attention see "I was banned" threads every day on the fansite forums, leading them to realize "Yes, ArenaNet really is monitoring, researching, asking questions, taking extra looks, and terminating the accounts of those who cheat, exploit, and otherwise abuse the UA. I guess time will tell if this wrong-doer will be nabbed. Maybe it's not if. Maybe it's when. Personally, as a team member and as a player, I'm crossin' my fingers."

"But I see the reports and I know that we do." Why not make those reports public so we can all see what A-net is doing about this issue? That way everyone can see and judge A-net with facts not just speculation.

Septeric · May 18, 2010, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by Gaile:
"Botter, eh? We love nailing botters. I know some people get one a high horse and say that we don't do anything about botters. But I see the reports and I know that we do. And players who are paying attention see "I was banned" threads every day on the fansite forums, leading them to realize "Yes, ArenaNet really is monitoring, researching, asking questions, taking extra looks, and terminating the accounts of those who cheat, exploit, and otherwise abuse the UA." I guess time will tell if this wrong-doer will be nabbed. Maybe it's not if. Maybe it's when. Personally, as a team member and as a player, I'm crossin' my fingers."

translation = blah blah blah nada nada nada... but we're watching you whiners...

lolz.. had to chime back in after seeing that.

let me get my ladder out since my horse is so high....

and to answer others based off my personal experience: its not hard to find bots.. nor is the risk of getting caught very high. but it does get boring after a minute.

its like putting a bandaid on a gushing wound.. bottin just makes people feel better after they way they was treated.. but its temporary... the broken game that was fun and is no more, is the problem.

Eragon Zarroc · May 18, 2010, 06:20 PM // 18:20

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Originally Posted by merek

"But I see the reports and I know that we do." Why not make those reports public so we can all see what A-net is doing about this issue? That way everyone can see and judge A-net with facts not just speculation.

will never happen. would lead to harrassment of the people whose names are revealed.

Karate Jesus · May 18, 2010, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

will never happen. would lead to harrassment of the people whose names are revealed.

And the fact that Anet doesn't ban nearly as many bots as they claim. Gaile once claimed that they banned over 1,000 in a weekend.

We all know that's bullshit.

Oblivious Moose · May 18, 2010, 06:39 PM // 18:39

/sign i cannot stress the affect of third party programs, esp automated gaming ones, have on a game and its community of honest players.

used to love how this wasnt an issue, and accounts were being banned left and right last year and before.

maybe the person doing this lost their job? no idea. but still, there is no excuse to let these things go rampant

merek · May 18, 2010, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Eragon:
"will never happen. would lead to harrassment of the people whose names are revealed."
Do you mean the release of their real name? I don't care what their real names are.. and I doubt it would lead to harassment.. or do you mean their in-game name? lol, I don't think you can harass banned people very easy.

Danny Used Frenzy · May 18, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by oscarmk

It is actually the only solution right now, the other solutions require a new game architecture, and actually yes it can work 100%, given the list on the program is updated often.

It's not very hard to emulate a list of processes.

Danny Used Frenzy · May 18, 2010, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

And the fact that Anet doesn't ban nearly as many bots as they claim. Gaile once claimed that they banned over 1,000 in a weekend.

We all know that's bullshit.

I wouldn't doubt that number. It's not very hard to sit in Bergen and ban any monk that runs toward the signpost.

oscarmk · May 18, 2010, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by Danny Used Frenzy

It's not very hard to emulate a list of processes.

That wouldn't work. Think about it.

lishi · May 18, 2010, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Danny Used Frenzy

I wouldn't doubt that number. It's not very hard to sit in Bergen and ban any monk that runs toward the signpost.

Clearly they don't, since they keep doing it.

Schnellburg · May 18, 2010, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Let them keep botting. The Chinese gold farmers need to make money to feed their families, so why do you want to stop their way of life??? What is wrong with you people!?

Serious note, botting will always exist. There is really nothing that any of us can do about it. It took them how long to rework SF, and how long to rework Ursan...Yeah I bet botting is high on their list of things to do in game. I would rather them work on GW2, then worry about this dying game.

AtomicMew · May 18, 2010, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by Schnellburg

Let them keep botting. The Chinese gold farmers need to make money to feed their families, so why do you want to stop their way of life??? What is wrong with you people!?

Serious note, botting will always exist. There is really nothing that any of us can do about it. It took them how long to rework SF, and how long to rework Ursan...Yeah I bet botting is high on their list of things to do in game. I would rather them work on GW2, then worry about this dying game.

The best part about the SF is, that while they did kill 10 minute UWSC, they simultaneously made it even EASIER to farm with SF. Talk about lolols.

BuD · May 18, 2010, 10:06 PM // 22:06

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Yes, ArenaNet really is monitoring, researching, asking questions, taking extra looks....

Ah I see more clearly now, this is why there are so many wrongly banned accounts, cuz they monitor, research, ask questions & take extra looks...[/sarcasm]

R_Frost · May 18, 2010, 11:01 PM // 23:01

i know of 2 people, one who was wrongly accused of being a bot because he just farmed alot that led to an account perma ban. he later bought another account, most of the people in the alliance helped him resupply but doesnt play much anymore. the second person actually did bot his final titles, kurzick and luxon before the HFFF was nerfed, that once he finished now logs in about once a month or event weekends now.

i agree PvP bots need to be delt with. i have mixed feelings about PvE bots as they really dont affect anyone else in PvE like it does in PvP. with the current state of the game i would rather see Anet use what little resources and actually fix stuff instead of the usuall way they deal with game issues.

LowOiL · May 19, 2010, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Just an old fellow here that likes to play GWs to relax, have logged in about 7k hours and just now have finally got 25 titles maxed. I hoped to get GWAMM eventually and I am close to level 11 Kurz now (all just HH vanquishes)... I am sorta a loner and don't really do guild thing alot, but I do take pride in the accomplishments I have managed. All PvE and I don't even have a clue how to PvP.

/SIGNED

Please Anet do your best to stop the bots. I worked hard for what titles I have, please don't let cheaters devalue my accomplishments.