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.HunTer · May 27, 2010, 05:23 AM // 05:23

OMG I missed it

Just imagine how humiliating...getting banned (killed by Dhuum) while 545974954+987897897897+9789451561 people watch it. (Kamadan)

lolz

Killamus · May 27, 2010, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerel

I really don't think Anet would be issuing mass bans based on a list of IP's that downloaded a bot, seriously...

Downloading a bot != Using a bot.

Why are you going to download a bot and not use it?

That's like saying "I bought this PS3, but I'm not going to play it. I'm just going to sit it in the corner and let it get dusty. Maybe I'll stare at it once and a while, but I'll never hook it up or take it out of the box."

Doesn't make much sense.

And if this is the case, then they have a pretty good shot at an appeal. Would also explain the amount of inappropriate bans (Excluding the ones feigning innocence.)

As I said before, large amounts of bannings produce a good bit of influx of cash for the company involved, just look at WoW. Their sales spike almost 200% shortly after they do a large ban (Almost every 6 months, iirc.)

Unless they suddenly invented a way to detect bots out the ass (Doubtful, at best), the best explanation is a list of accounts or IPs they just blanket banned. Otherwise, why wait? Why not ban these players as soon as they realized they were botting, instead of waiting X amount of days/weeks/months/years, which would have improved Anets credibility? Although, admittedly a lot less then this stunt.

Mireles · May 27, 2010, 05:29 AM // 05:29

holy hell nice.... damn that job of mine for making me miss it

Edit: here a video... most epic shit ive ever seen... still looking for one in kamadan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fFYug8nXcM

silv3rr · May 27, 2010, 05:33 AM // 05:33

Is KSMod and GWx2/GW Multi-launch ok?? This got me kind of worried even though I'm enjoying this banning =p

Found this: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=153

Uhh I guess I'll just refrain from using KSMod.. that would suck but oh well. But it's going to be hard to not be able to access my mule account

mini pet monster · May 27, 2010, 05:41 AM // 05:41

ksmod, gwx2, multilaunch are still good

Astralelf · May 27, 2010, 05:41 AM // 05:41

This is so godly lol

Iuris · May 27, 2010, 06:18 AM // 06:18

WHYYYYYY???????!!????

Why do these cool things happen only when I'm away from the computer

I wanna see this stuff!

Good job, Anet, and plese keep the method in the game - make it so that whenever someone is banned, Dhuum goes get him

And implement something like it for GW2

market · May 27, 2010, 07:25 AM // 07:25

so, lets say that I might have G15 keyboard, and Im trying to get Gwamm. But Im missing some minutes from Ale-hound. So my question is, if I macro my drunkard title, is it botting?

And second question, is minor macroing with G15 botting? With minor I mean small things like drunkard

third one: Textmod, change IG graphics, so it legal or not?

Iuris · May 27, 2010, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Key thing you need to ask yourself: does whatever I'm cunningly planning achieve automation of the process? If the answer is yes, you're most likely already moving off in the wrond direction and should at least contact support before doing it.

People focus too much on the means and forget that it's the end result that is a problem.

BlueXIV · May 27, 2010, 07:52 AM // 07:52

About the ban on IPs, I can guarantee that anet did not just take the access IPs from that one site and banned them all. First of all, it would be illegal and very difficult to do. And second, I admit I downloaded the bot source because I was curious to see how they did it. I didn't use it at all, and my account was perfectly fine.

And second, it seems to me like Anet blanket banned [DL] without regard to who was botting. My friend who doesn't even play anymore, someone that I'm 100% sure doesn't bot got banned most likely from just being in [DL]. My other friend and I were kicked recently for inactivity, and didn't get blanket banned. That's the only reason I can think of that flapjack and my friend got banned (although I have to admit, [DL] was a bot nest lol).

ANet isn't perfect, and I hope to see that the people who were wrongly banned get their account restored.

Mangione · May 27, 2010, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by market

so, lets say that I might have G15 keyboard, and Im trying to get Gwamm. But Im missing some minutes from Ale-hound. So my question is, if I macro my drunkard title, is it botting?

Stay on the safe side.
If you are in doubt, do it the legit way.

Heck, you people want the title but don't want to do the work involved into getting it.
If it is such a burden that you need to resort to automation, then probably it isn't for you.

mini pet monster · May 27, 2010, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by market

so, lets say that I might have G15 keyboard, and Im trying to get Gwamm. But Im missing some minutes from Ale-hound. So my question is, if I macro my drunkard title, is it botting?

And second question, is minor macroing with G15 botting? With minor I mean small things like drunkard

third one: Textmod, change IG graphics, so it legal or not?

you wouldn't have got banned in this episode. and as long as you don't tell someone to report you while you drunk bot, its safe

StormX · May 27, 2010, 08:28 AM // 08:28

HOly crap, I was in school and missed it. Can it...can it be true? (Somehow seems too good to be true. Ima log into JQ and see if the usual offenders are still there)

Nerel · May 27, 2010, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killamus

Why are you going to download a bot and not use it?

That's like saying "I bought this PS3, but I'm not going to play it. I'm just going to sit it in the corner and let it get dusty. Maybe I'll stare at it once and a while, but I'll never hook it up or take it out of the box."

Doesn't make much sense.

And if this is the case, then they have a pretty good shot at an appeal. Would also explain the amount of inappropriate bans (Excluding the ones feigning innocence.)

As I said before, large amounts of bannings produce a good bit of influx of cash for the company involved, just look at WoW. Their sales spike almost 200% shortly after they do a large ban (Almost every 6 months, iirc.)

Unless they suddenly invented a way to detect bots out the ass (Doubtful, at best), the best explanation is a list of accounts or IPs they just blanket banned. Otherwise, why wait? Why not ban these players as soon as they realized they were botting, instead of waiting X amount of days/weeks/months/years, which would have improved Anets credibility? Although, admittedly a lot less then this stunt.

Okies, so no technically minded person ever downloaded a bot just so they could see the code, to see how it works, to understand what they're up against?

No player ever downloaded a bot, but then thought better of actually risking their account by using it?

No, of course not, impossible!

Where in the EULA does it say you can't download third party software or bots? I know you can't use them, but where does it say you can't download them but not use them? Yeah, right...

Onto your PS3 comment, yeah, nobody ever bought a PS3 and just used it for a Bluray player back when they were a fraction of the price of a standalone Bluray player did they? Oh wait, yes they did. Not that your example makes any sense... multi hundred dollar piece of hardware versus a free download, uh huh...

Banning based solely on an IP list of bot downloaders would also be contrary to what Anet assures us is there standard practice of INVESTIGATING their server logs to make sure they are correct in issuing the bans. Throwing out blanket bans and then having to deal with the shit load of bad publicity and the incredible amount of support time needed to deal with all the indignant wrongly accused people would be far more expensive than just investigating the server logs and following up on player reports.

I can't believe Anet would be that stupid, and even by Guru standards I'm still having trouble believing that you seemingly are.

aspi · May 27, 2010, 09:25 AM // 09:25

Ooooooh I missed this I would have loved to see this happen.

C4RB1N3 · May 27, 2010, 09:36 AM // 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pale-Dim

Something similar to this happened in AION. They used a giant Hamster instead. but same end effect. too bad i missed it. Keep up the good work.

Your referring to an Elroko :P

and those were GM controlled chars and they only banned about..15 people doing that.

Anon-e-mouse · May 27, 2010, 09:57 AM // 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killamus

Unless they suddenly invented a way to detect bots out the ass (Doubtful, at best), the best explanation is a list of accounts or IPs they just blanket banned. Otherwise, why wait? Why not ban these players as soon as they realized they were botting, instead of waiting X amount of days/weeks/months/years, which would have improved Anets credibility? Although, admittedly a lot less then this stunt.

U do realise that it's not that hard to write a program, that details what's running on your PC and sends that information through the internet. You've already allowed GW's net access, and it's already running..

Pog Mo Thon · May 27, 2010, 10:08 AM // 10:08

I can can has Dhumms job please?

Will work for cookies.

tmakinen · May 27, 2010, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by market

so, lets say that I might have G15 keyboard, and Im trying to get Gwamm. But Im missing some minutes from Ale-hound. So my question is, if I macro my drunkard title, is it botting?

It can be, but it doesn't have to be, depending on your macro. The issue is very clear-cut and doesn't take a university degree to understand. If your macro keeps downing ale while you are afk then it's a bot and you risk account termination. On the other hand, a macro that opens the inventory, quaffs a drink and closes the inventory only when you press a hotkey is not a bot.

SunfallE · May 27, 2010, 10:29 AM // 10:29

My only regret is that I didn't get to see Dhumm in person. I would have loved to see that happen to someone. lol The video was totally awesome though.