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Chronos the Defiler · May 28, 2010, 11:29 PM // 23:29

and .dll injection is a basic way for players to cheat or alter their games. As with many many many other games, it is used for things it should not be used for.

gwkbar · May 28, 2010, 11:32 PM // 23:32

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Originally Posted by hattara

Did you READ the email you copypasted here?

Because it clearly states that KSmod and texmod have not and will not get anyone banned. Like staff have also stated on forums, on the wiki, ingame. They are not what got you banned. It's right there.

There's just... no point in first posting something that cleary states "you were not banned for X or Y", and then going on to whine "if you ban people for X and Y you should say so!" Because they just told you they don't.

well i wouldn't know what gets posted ingame cuz.... i'm banned.

i'm just stating that those are the programs that i used, and i received a ban.
i never botted or anything like that, so idk y i got a ban

flapjack · May 28, 2010, 11:34 PM // 23:34

It is really dissapointing see so many people that never ran farm bots or cheated in pvp or even used a program to help get a drunkard title get their account perma banned for some supposed nefarious use of a 3rd party program. It is even more disheartening to listen to others that actually did bot farm faction or chest run or whatever and they didn't lose their accounts. The implementation of this ban seems almost arbituary or even targeted in an unfair way such as "guilt by assossiation" etc.

Screwed by the bot farmers/pvp cheaters and then screwed again by an ANET ban bot and the final F'you bot response from support. Are we the only ones left that actually sit at our keyboards?

The hard core farm botters were not even remotely secretive about what they did. Everyone knew who they were. What is so unfortunate is all the people that didn't farm or cheat the game getting shafted.

Schnellburg · May 28, 2010, 11:46 PM // 23:46

They can't say all 3rd party programs are against the Eula and say some are fine. That is a double standard and not fair.

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 11:47 PM // 23:47

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Originally Posted by snaek

tldr; we have crappy detection methods so in the fight against serious botters, we'll also take out the harmless small-timers and a few innocent bystanders along the way.

This..

ncsoft didn't bother reading what I emailed them...they responded exacly the same...my friend got banned for textmod...i tried mailing them with his account since he doesn't want to bother,same response...

Eh well,what can you do...I think I'm geting GW2 anyways,and not using any program that modifies it even if it is made by A-net itself.

Ironic though...they ban bots and respond with bots..

Bob Slydell · May 28, 2010, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

This..

ncsoft didn't bother reading what I emailed them...they responded exacly the same...my friend got banned for textmod...i tried mailing them with his account since he doesn't want to bother,same response...

Eh well,what can you do...I think I'm geting GW2 anyways,and not using any program that modifies it even if it is made by A-net itself.

Ironic though...they ban bots and respond with bots..

Make sure you change your IP address by then and use a different name and address. Apparently they can ban you from their service... for life, as in you can still buy their shit, but your account will be auto-terminated upon old history of previous bans.

Faer · May 28, 2010, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

I think I'm geting GW2 anyways

They may ban your GW2 account as soon as you get it installed, so I would be careful about that if I was you.

(No, seriously, it's in the NCSoft terms)

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell

Make sure you change your IP address by then and use a different name and address. Apparently they can ban you from their service... for life, as in you can still buy their shit, but your account will be auto-terminated upon old history of previous bans.

I know...I mailed them about it but the response isn't so fast for that

Damian Manson · May 29, 2010, 01:12 AM // 01:12

I think in this case you have been banned for the macro you say you only used it for /resign but meh looks like either your not telling us everything or they picked up on it and you got the sore end of the ban scythe, point taken but good luck in getting through to anet.

Sierraa · May 29, 2010, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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Originally Posted by hattara

Did you READ the email you copypasted here?

Because it clearly states that KSmod and texmod have not and will not get anyone banned. Like staff have also stated on forums, on the wiki, ingame. They are not what got you banned. It's right there.

There's just... no point in first posting something that cleary states "you were not banned for X or Y", and then going on to whine "if you ban people for X and Y you should say so!" Because they just told you they don't.

...have not and will not get you banned IN THEIR CURRENT FORM. Any modifications, future releases etc may or may not be ok. They have the power to suddenly say that it's not ok because of a minor update and you may get banned for it.

Feathermoore Rep · May 29, 2010, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Even if its in the NCsoft agreement they can only go so far as to banning you NCsoft master accounts if you hack their games. Transfer a ban from GW to GW2 based solely upon IP from over a year ago, holds no merit. IP servers, people, companies, etc all change way to much over a year for them to have any grounds on insta-banning upon install and playing. But I'm not/wouldn't be suprised that the NCsoft agreement has right to terminate master account.

But my main point is that, spam all you want. aNet has CLEARLY stated MULTIPLE times, blog and forum posts, that they WILL NOT release any information upon the method of discovery because they clearly don't want different hacks to be released. If you tell even just one person how they got caught, it'll find its way to ears of the hack programmer, and they'll find a new method.

Your best bet is just to provide your general time, date, location, IP address, your ISP, and any other additional information that could possibly prove you didn't install or knowingly use a hacked GW game. Still not suprised if you still get auto-replies.

Biggus Shlongus · May 29, 2010, 02:15 AM // 02:15

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Originally Posted by Terrible Surgeon

You altered the product, and that in my mind deserves a ban.

HF with ur ban

Are you seriously telling me that you've never modded any programme, even a single player game such as downloading new quests and NPC's for Baldur's Gate, or New Weapon Skins for an FPS like Counterstrike Source?!?! And is that in your opinion somehow ban worth?

I agree with banning people for botting and things like that, but for a gwwiki and community support approved mod, that's going a bit too far

I'm sorry about your ban gwkbar. I completely understand where your coming from, if I had been banned I would like to know what for exactly.

To be honest, it think that your gonna have to work hard to get your account back regardless. ANET probably don't want to be seen as having made a mistake too much, as with many customer support offices, just keep working on them and if you deserve it (and with a bit of luck) you'll be successful.

Good luck man

amaretto creme · May 29, 2010, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by Sierraa

...have not and will not get you banned IN THEIR CURRENT FORM. Any modifications, future releases etc may or may not be ok. They have the power to suddenly say that it's not ok because of a minor update and you may get banned for it.

It's not that, they're saying if you download it from anywhere other than the original source, then it cannot be trusted, as it might mess with the game somehow, allowing you to be banned. It's been explained somewhere in these millions of threads. Lol

Everlasting Tatts · May 29, 2010, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Hasn't there been enough of these complaining about banning threads. Many people have been told in other threads that there is nothing anyone can do here for you. Its getting old and quite annoying. Mods close this big headache.

Schnellburg · May 29, 2010, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Then stop reading these forums. That is what it comes down to, you should know people are going to be QQing.

Femmefatal · May 29, 2010, 03:33 AM // 03:33

Of course we all know by now those that get banned lie out their teeth about it and they are innocent and they didn't do anything and they don't know why they got banned. Anet has the proof there's more to the picture than the OP is telling or that Anet has to tell. They are not oblidged to show the OP or anyone why. They have the final say and I'm glad they all got banned as the game will be a much better place for a little while until the next group starts it all over again. Let them cry all they want, just don't let them back in.

Zarion Silverarrow · May 29, 2010, 03:36 AM // 03:36

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Originally Posted by Femmefatal

Of course we all know by now those that get banned lie out their teeth about it and they are innocent and they didn't do anything and they don't know why they got banned. Anet has the proof there's more to the picture than the OP is telling or that Anet has to tell. They are not oblidged to show the OP or anyone why. They have the final say and I'm glad they all got banned as the game will be a much better place for a little while until the next group starts it all over again. Let them cry all they want, just don't let them back in.

I'd like to see you saying that when you get banned for no reason (which is not the case for me,but OP)

This is similar to dictatorship. You got banned,deal with it,buy a life,just forget it,anet don't need to explain to you right? because you didn't waste $150 right? right.

And say OP is lying,the responses are still not apropiate. "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off" is not a good support response,nor is saying it in a polite way like explaining rules OP already knows then saying no further replies will be answered.

banding colleague · May 29, 2010, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Femmefatal

Of course we all know by now those that get banned lie out their teeth about it and they are innocent and they didn't do anything and they don't know why they got banned. Anet has the proof there's more to the picture than the OP is telling or that Anet has to tell. They are not oblidged to show the OP or anyone why. They have the final say and I'm glad they all got banned as the game will be a much better place for a little while until the next group starts it all over again. Let them cry all they want, just don't let them back in.

Exactly! Anet is perfect. Reverse-sized minions come to mind...

Atro · May 29, 2010, 06:12 AM // 06:12

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Originally Posted by Femmefatal

Of course we all know by now those that get banned lie out their teeth about it and they are innocent and they didn't do anything and they don't know why they got banned. Anet has the proof there's more to the picture than the OP is telling or that Anet has to tell. They are not oblidged to show the OP or anyone why. They have the final say and I'm glad they all got banned as the game will be a much better place for a little while until the next group starts it all over again. Let them cry all they want, just don't let them back in.

Really? Lets just say there is an innocent person in all this, and lets just say you are that innocent person, are going to just let it go after spending $150+, are you going to let it go without knowing why you got banned, wouldn't you want Anet to prove to you that you did something against the EULA?

Think about it

Woo Guru

majoho · May 29, 2010, 06:17 AM // 06:17

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

This is similar to dictatorship. You got banned,deal with it,buy a life,just forget it,anet don't need to explain to you right? because you didn't waste $150 right? right.

At some point I was a little sympathetic to you but seriously stop going on and on with it.

And yes Anet is NOT a democracy they are both the judge and the jury, that's how these kinds of things are.

Blame YOURSELF for botting even if it was only just for one minute, it's not Anets fault you "wasted" $150 - and I bet you probably had your $150's worth of fun already.

Seriously, just stop.

EDIT: and for OP, you used a keyboard macro, that's considered botting.