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Ka Tet · May 28, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

does that mean refresh?

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by tha walkin dude

does that mean refresh?

Yes...because I know a $hitstorm is in the way

PS:I don't agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Ninja Ninja

If you want to use that situation then the temp bans would be considered the first offense because of the account mark system. Botting would be murder.

Botting is hacking the game and giving out perma dishonorable isn't a punishment if the botter already got a high enough rank in pvp to get there HoM rewards. The ban was to send an unquestionable message, you bot you get banned.

And who did I murder? No one. I did not bot on PvP,walking in a town isn't "murder",its walking.

sixdartbart · May 28, 2010, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

No need to get your post count up by posting what almost every person that agrees with all bans 100% is saying...

We get it,we got banned because EULA said so.Stop repeating it,it ain't necessary since we understand it.

If you want to keep posting it,then whatever,but keep in mind your post won't have more effect than the one before similar to yours (with the exeption if someone didn't fully read it or your explaining yourself,etc) but since your post has been posted several times,no need.

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

Once again,I repeat myself...

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

as I said like 100 times already

No need to get your post count up by constantly repeating yourself.
That is GREAT advise, why don't you take it.
Telling someone "Stop repeating it,it ain't necessary since we understand it."
Again Great advise

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

when you find a propper way to say I'm wrong without making stuff up,then you'l have my respect

Let me start by making it clear, I have NO interest in your respect, in the interest of not making stuff up I will let you do the talking here, if your own words don't fit your criteria of a proper way to say you are wrong then you are beyond hope.

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

BUT,it should be changed. I don't think I deserve a ban for walking around in a town with a bot for 10 seconds....the only advantage I had was not pressing R and moving the camera around

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

I didn't ruin your gaming experience...tell me how walking 20ish steps on remains of salahalajalajla affects you. That is all I did and I was banned.

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

I,as an individual,only used 2 bots for 10 seconds each...for a sum of about 20 steps taken in 2 towns...nothing else...all I did was walk around...now tell me,how does that affect your gameplay?

So which is it, These above or these below from your thread that got locked?

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

I only boted with a SS/LB bot and a Stygian (DoA) bot for less than 5 minutes alltogether,so obviously I did not gain 1 gold or 1 tittle point. It was on an alt account,and both my main and alt got banned.

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

And I forgot to mention,I did use 2 bots once each on my other account (ss/lb bot and a stygian trapper one)

But only ONCE and my OTHER account

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

The thing is,I just did this to tell others the actions. It was only in 1 account,and atleast I don't lie and admit it.

WOOPS

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

but take my word it was less than 5 minutes and it was for the benefit of the people

ummm ok sure we will all "take your word for it"

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

And most of the attacks against me have been using ASSUPMTIONS like that I am lying

How could anyone get the impression that you are lying when your stories are all exactly the same... ohhh wait

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

People were mad at the advantages bots brought over them (ie more gold,tittles,pvp ownage,time for things,etc) but all I did was walk in a town.

Thats not what Zarion Silverarrow told us and we should all believe him because he said we should.{ sorry if the two of you disagree}

Something I was told when I was very young that may help you out in the future. {You never have to remember what the truth is}

Now in the nicest way I can find to say it.
Please spare us all of your +1 posts and deal with Anet support, you wanted people opinions, you got them, we can't unban you and for the most part don't believe you should be unbanned.

GOODBYE

Ninja Ninja · May 28, 2010, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

And who did I murder? No one. I did not bot on PvP,walking in a town isn't "murder",its walking.

Grasping straws? I was relating the punishments, murder gets you the life sentence like being permanently banned from gw.

When you first used the bot you knew it was against the rules and resulted in a ban but you still did it. Even if you only botted for 10 seconds I would still want you banned.

SebaZ · May 28, 2010, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

Exacly what made this happen,prejudice. According to you ,if you used a bot ever,you gained something thus you should be banned....but it didn't cross your mind some people shutted it off before anything happened (thus not cheating)

why would you set up a bot if you're not even gonna use it?
You botters got what you deserved. Let it go.

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

No need to get your post count up by constantly repeating yourself.
That is GREAT advise, why don't you take it.
Telling someone "Stop repeating it,it ain't necessary since we understand it."
Again Great advise

Let me start by making it clear, I have NO interest in your respect, in the interest of not making stuff up I will let you do the talking here, if your own words don't fit your criteria of a proper way to say you are wrong then you are beyond hope.

So which is it, These above or these below from your thread that got locked?

WOOPS
ummm ok sure we will all "take your word for it"
How could anyone get the impression that you are lying when your stories are all exactly the same... ohhh wait
Thats not what Zarion Silverarrow told us and we should all believe him because he said we should.{ sorry if the two of you disagree}

Something I was told when I was very young that may help you out in the future. {You never have to remember what the truth is}

Now in the nicest way I can find to say it.
Please spare us all of your +1 posts and deal with Anet support, you wanted people opinions, you got them, we can't unban you and for the most part don't believe you should be unbanned.

GOODBYE

1. What I said about repeating myself was that I will only repeat if someone says something that contradicts what I said...or that that person didn't understand,etc...but people keep bringing the EULA to my face when I already admit I was rightfully banned.

2.I see no difference between each posts....All of them sum it up,I used 2 bots on my alt account for less than 5 minutes (to my calculation 20 secondsish max) and got banned in my main...one of them was in remains of salahjaja (ss/lb) and the 2nd in doa (it was a stygian bot,but all I did was walk in GoA and stop it just in time)

----Also I typed that thread with a bit of anger,even so,nothing contradicts what I've been saying-----

3. I know a friend IRL that almost got paired with an ss/lb bot,so yes,only once,but yes i prevented him to get grouped with a bot.

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Originally Posted by Grj

So you downloaded two bots?

I'm guessing they failed to work also, right?

Okay I'm going to call you out:

All your anger, frustration and trolling is coming from because you botted... they failed to work and you get your account flaged for a ban.

This is where this I only used them for 20 steps is coming from isn't it, because they failed to work.

Also I wouldn't be suprised if you and the other people banned trolling the forums have also been banned for language/abuse violations.

IDK if the bot worked,I didnt test it for more than walking in town. And I've never been banned from GW before.

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Originally Posted by SebaZ

why would you set up a bot if you're not even gonna use it?
You botters got what you deserved. Let it go.

Because I took back my actions just in time. Setting up the bots took less than 2 minutes.

Ka Tet · May 28, 2010, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by Kharmin

I believe that it can have an impact on elitism in PvE ... sure, I could be wrong. Are bots exclusively to blame for that? No, but I do think that they play a part, so much so that to dismiss the impact of bots on PvE is IMO to be a bit naive.

Thanks for the kudos. I'd sell you the star, but I'm the one on the right w/o one.

People who will act as though they are better than you will do so with or without a green star. I would think that Bots would actually lessen that, b/c there would be lots of green star bots, and green stars would become cheaper so that everyone who wanted one could have one.
I'm not saying botting is wonderful, but its more preferable than allowing others to decide what you do on your pc with products you bought. Legislation of behavior is never a good thing.

pumpkin pie · May 28, 2010, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

Umm...yes this is what it all is about.

So if you haven't gotten ban, you would have walk out of the town and start botting, wouldn't you?

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Originally Posted by tha walkin dude

I'm not saying botting is wonderful, but its more preferable than allowing others to decide what you do on your pc with products you bought. Legislation of behavior is never a good thing.

Ahem... they did not decide what you do on your pc, they decide they don't want you doing that on their server. You still own the CD you bought, you are no longer welcome to play on their server.

Ninja Ninja · May 28, 2010, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by tha walkin dude

People who will act as though they are better than you will do so with or without a green star. I would think that Bots would actually lessen that, b/c there would be lots of green star bots, and green stars would become cheaper so that everyone who wanted one could have one.
I'm not saying botting is wonderful, but its more preferable than allowing others to decide what you do on your pc with products you bought. Legislation of behavior is never a good thing.

Botting prevents actual pvp and makes it the unbeatable meta through cheating.

Risus · May 28, 2010, 08:31 PM // 20:31

If you bot, you get banned. End of story. I have no remorse for them because the botters were directly and intentionally violating the EULA.

Inde · May 28, 2010, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Stop with the personal attacks. We have been lenient so far but if I see more insults, more flaming, more personal attacks you will be banned.

Pugs Not Drugs · May 28, 2010, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep

that post by Pugs Not Drugs was biggest troll post ever by the way. and all of you bought it.

I can assure you, I was not trolling. Everything I said was sincere.

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

Eh possible. I only care because people keep comparing him to me...he boted for several hours,and admits it. I boted for <5 mins,didn't gain anything,and admit it....I see no difference there

It does not matter how much you botted. You should have not even had a bot on your computer if you were a "clean" player. The fact of the matter is that you were botting. The bot did not download, install, and run itself automatically; you were the one who started it, therefore, you were the one who got banned.

Zarion Silverarrow · May 28, 2010, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

So if you haven't gotten ban, you would have walk out of the town and start botting, wouldn't you?

As I said... my botting incident was long ago,I deleted everything,long before the ban. So,no,I wouldn't.

Anyways I'm kind of tired...so if anyone wants to reply to me just read the previous posts,because as you can see from pumpkin,not everyone is reading what I say....

cebalrai · May 28, 2010, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

1. What I said about repeating myself was that I will only repeat if someone says something that contradicts what I said...or that that person didn't understand,etc...but people keep bringing the EULA to my face when I already admit I was rightfully banned.

2.I see no difference between each posts....All of them sum it up,I used 2 bots on my alt account for less than 5 minutes (to my calculation 20 secondsish max) and got banned in my main...one of them was in remains of salahjaja (ss/lb) and the 2nd in doa (it was a stygian bot,but all I did was walk in GoA and stop it just in time)

----Also I typed that thread with a bit of anger,even so,nothing contradicts what I've been saying-----

3. I know a friend IRL that almost got paired with an ss/lb bot,so yes,only once,but yes i prevented him to get grouped with a bot.

IDK if the bot worked,I didnt test it for more than walking in town. And I've never been banned from GW before.

Because I took back my actions just in time. Setting up the bots took less than 2 minutes.

Your rationalization of "I only botted for a few minutes" is laughable. Nobody believes you for one. And you're still guilty as hell of willfully installing bot clients on your computer.

You deserve to be banned. Bye.

cormac ap dunn · May 28, 2010, 11:25 PM // 23:25

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

No need to get your post count up by constantly repeating yourself.
That is GREAT advise, why don't you take it.
Telling someone "Stop repeating it,it ain't necessary since we understand it."
Again Great advise

Let me start by making it clear, I have NO interest in your respect, in the interest of not making stuff up I will let you do the talking here, if your own words don't fit your criteria of a proper way to say you are wrong then you are beyond hope.

So which is it, These above or these below from your thread that got locked?

WOOPS
ummm ok sure we will all "take your word for it"
How could anyone get the impression that you are lying when your stories are all exactly the same... ohhh wait
Thats not what Zarion Silverarrow told us and we should all believe him because he said we should.{ sorry if the two of you disagree}

Something I was told when I was very young that may help you out in the future. {You never have to remember what the truth is}

Now in the nicest way I can find to say it.
Please spare us all of your +1 posts and deal with Anet support, you wanted people opinions, you got them, we can't unban you and for the most part don't believe you should be unbanned.

GOODBYE

its a shame to see that this research was completely ignored. hopefully we get to see what the answer is, but i have a feeling the OP , and many others are trying to use Guru as a springboard to getting their deservedly banned accounts back. hopefully all read this and see what is being ignored. as for other QQ threads about this topic, one cheater or another will claim innocence, your accounts are banned, i doubt reversal is happening , and no one person here can help you get them back. instead of posting on guru, hoping for some miracle, keep it to support tickets, if you get it back, great, if not please move on, so the forums can move on as well.

Zehnchu · May 29, 2010, 12:04 AM // 00:04

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

Is it that hard to think this:

Ban a first timer,little time botting person for 2 weeks,he does it again,perma ban.

Everyones thinking;either perma ban,or alot of 2 week bans...just mix em up,it ain't that hard to have an idea yourself.

Here’s the thing even if they did that there will be a small percentage that would be really sorry and never repeat while the number of people who would go right back and do it again will be higher. And then in the next go around of ban as we have seen for the past five years we will see the repeat of what everyone has been saying here on this recent round of bans.

Some of these people who have been banned have been around for a long time and they should take it that if they didn’t get banned in the last round of bans then that was their second chance to shape up and don’t do it. However as you and other have seen they ignored there second chance and continued.

While it may seem to be unfair what they did is the correct course of action to take while people have ignored the warnings. And going through support make take time and be a huge pain in the butt, however it also helps filter people who know they did wrong and deserve the ban less likely to put time in trying to get their account back.

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

As I said... my botting incident was long ago,I deleted everything,long before the ban. So,no,I wouldn't.

Anet just didn’t start looking of infringers this has been an on going thing that has spanned months. It appears that something was done with then this time frame.

Rocky Raccoon · May 29, 2010, 12:09 AM // 00:09

I would really like to believe that all the people who say they did nothing wrong were being truthful. Being that I am 25 years old (really 62), 6'5" and 225 lbs (really 5'10: and 225 lbs}, blond hair and clean shaven (white hair and full beard), I hope you have my point by now. The only one I really know about on this forum is me, but I like to think that you are all basically good people. Anonymity is a strange entity that allows people to be who they are not. I once read that 10% of the population is crazy and none of you know which percent I belong to.

pumpkin pie · May 29, 2010, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by Zarion Silverarrow

As I said... my botting incident was long ago,I deleted everything,long before the ban. So,no,I wouldn't.

Anyways I'm kind of tired...so if anyone wants to reply to me just read the previous posts,because as you can see from pumpkin,not everyone is reading what I say....

I see. my condolences then, try to plea your case, cos explaining here to us won't help you.

cormac ap dunn · May 29, 2010, 01:05 AM // 01:05

Zarion here is a little good news for you, you may never get that account back, but if you are planning on playing with integrity this time heres your shot

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

If you purchase a brand new account, our Support Team will not take action on your account (i.e. ban it) so long as this new account remains free of any incidents requiring action from the Support Team. If you engage in activity that goes against the User Agreement and you are reported for it, this will attract the attention of the Support Team, at which point, they will take action if your account is found to have broken the User Agreement.

I think Anet is confident that the cheating will be under control and that their new methods of detection are solid. We can assume that if you are sorry, and you have learned from your mistake, this will provide you with a chance at redemption. That said, if people decide they like botting too much to give it up, its their money to waste.

Zarion Silverarrow · May 29, 2010, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

I see. my condolences then, try to plea your case, cos explaining here to us won't help you.

Thanks...nothing from A-net/ncsoft...just that canned response everyone's talking about...anyways I'm at that point were I can't be bothered to try...I tried to explain my best to the community and mostly got arrogance and assumptions...some arguments were good though and I admit it,but mostly not.

If I learned anything from my favorite movie (Shawshank Redemption) is that if you annoy the big guys enough,you'l get what you want...I plan to send a mail every month or so...they won't respond but they'l have to see it in their mail list