Curse

3246251196 · Jul 13, 2010, 04:23 PM // 16:23

I just wanted to learn what people thought on this topic. Furthermore, let's keep this concise:

Do you players class a Res Sig as an essential skill to have no matter what? Or, do you only bring Res Sig in certain situations - mainly: pveMissions or pveVq.

Do you players see a point in bringing Res Sig in a vanquish when there are Res shrines located throughout. I do not know about anyone else, but I do not plan on getting 60%DP for everyone in the team per VQ. With the slightest of planning, one person - at the least - should not get 60%DP. So, therefore, to me Res Sig is useless.

I do see a point to use them in missions because they have been a life saver!

The main point I am getting across here is that I see slot 8 to be more useful (in VQ for instance) if it has Save Yourselves in it for instance.

How do other people feel about Res Signet, and when/whenNot do you use it?

Azzy · Jul 13, 2010, 05:22 PM // 17:22

Useful skill? Doubtless. Essential skill? Not a chance.

In my opinion, it seems res signet has a much more useful place in PvP than PvE. In PvP, getting a single person back up on their feet as quick as possible is much more helpful than it often can be in PvE, where you are, more often than not, well off unless you've messed up somewhere and, say, pulled a few extra groups. In PvE, it seems to often be the case that, if a lot of party members are dropping off, it's a much better idea to fall back and regroup.

As such, when it comes to res, I prefer rebirth, if my secondary class isn't already taken up, so that we can bring back dead party members and regroup without resuming the fight. ^_^

Also, when it comes to vanquishing, I must admit that I generally prefer an even wipe to some party members being 10% morale and some being 60% DP, as I like to spam items and an even wipe takes only three honeycombs to remedy. XD

Dzjudz · Jul 13, 2010, 05:23 PM // 17:23

If you are talking about taking a res in general: this recent thread in Q&A discussed several points of view.

If you are talking about Resurrection Signet in particular: I (almost) always have a profession in my party who can bring a hard res (UA, Death Pact Signet, Flesh of my Flesh) and I favour those over Resurrection Signet.

Nijntjuh · Jul 13, 2010, 05:29 PM // 17:29

I stopped using Rez signets in PvE when I heard about the resurrection scrolls i basicly always carry a few of them with me they don't cost much and save me a slot on my skillbar.

If you'r not planning on using the resurrection scrolls then I agree with you'r point of view on vanquishes as you will just be rezzed @ a rez shrine and besides some death penalty which can be removed easily with the overflow of candy these days its only about walking back to the spot you were before.

In missions you could take the rez signet I usually don't do it because I feel I can use the slot better also i generaly play a melee character or my monk so either I die as one of the first or I dont have a rez because having a rez on a monk bar is a waste of a slot imo as you couldve used that skill to save you'r party in the first place.

Anyway just buy rez scrolls and you'r pretty much always good to go.

Lanier · Jul 13, 2010, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Here is my point of view on the issue:

I never, ever bring rezzes on my player character (hard rezzes and the signets included).

I never, ever bring rezzes on my hero monks (don't want them rezzing mid battle, i want them healing/protting). Even if you disable them, that is still losing a perfectly good skill slot that could be spent on more energy management which is always something hero monks could use more of.

I try to slot a rez into every other non-monk hero. If that hero is already for whatever reason /rt or /mo, then i will use a reuseable rez. If that hero is already x/x and neither profession has reuseable rezzes, then i will put in a rez signet. If that profession doesn't use any skills from a secondary, then i will make him /rt and bring flesh of my flesh or death pact signet depending on whether he is frontline or backline (frontliners bring flesh of my flesh, backliners bring DPS).

Riot Narita · Jul 13, 2010, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nijntjuh

I stopped using Rez signets in PvE when I heard about the resurrection scrolls i basicly always carry a few of them with me they don't cost much and save me a slot on my skillbar.

This ^

Or I let the party wipe if I'm H/H and rez at a shrine - there's Clovers, Honeycombs, etc if DP is racking up (cos the team has the wrong skills for that area and you can't be bothered to restart)

Feathermoore Rep · Jul 13, 2010, 05:59 PM // 17:59

rez signets in pve are useless, theres bound to be at least 3 people in your party that can take a perma/hard rez, who should also be the ones that will most likely die last. So drop it for half the group and take an extra utility skill to keep the party up. and if you are that worried, take a rez scroll. they're pretty cheap and craftable.

majoho · Jul 13, 2010, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot Narita

This ^

Or I let the party wipe if I'm H/H and rez at a shrine - there's Clovers, Honeycombs, etc if DP is racking up (cos the team has the wrong skills for that area and you can't be bothered to restart)

People seem to forget Missions, people really should have one res for those.

X Ghoul · Jul 13, 2010, 06:55 PM // 18:55

i bring 2 flesh heroes, the rest no sigs...

jazilla · Jul 13, 2010, 06:57 PM // 18:57

In PvE it is pointless. Rez Scrolls and Party wide DP removal have made it that way. There is no reason for Rez Sigs in PvE. PvP on the other hand it IS essential.

Mustache Mayhem · Jul 13, 2010, 07:10 PM // 19:10

ua monk will take care of it

ac1inferno · Jul 13, 2010, 07:20 PM // 19:20

No point in bringing a Res Signet in PvE when one of your heroes can carry a hard res for you. And in PvP, usually someone or two brings hard res and the rest, except backline of course, Res Signets unless the extra slot is really needed.

Nubarus · Jul 13, 2010, 07:25 PM // 19:25

I mainly play a Paragon and if I bring res I bring "We shall return!" but usually I don't need it anyway since dying partymembers are pretty rare for me, unless they manage to venture out of shout range and manage to get themselves killed.
For that I bring a nearly unkillable Minion Master hero with a hard res skill, I never use the signet.

Need More Ectos · Jul 13, 2010, 08:31 PM // 20:31

res sig -> pvp (but still builds in pvp use hard resses too)
hard res->pve

jazilla · Jul 13, 2010, 08:34 PM // 20:34

i scratch my head at people i group with that refuse to use a rez shrine due to pride. when you have partywide DP removal and rez scrolls there is no reason for a whole team to sit and wait for the monk to use rebirth, rez chant etc. in PvE. Stop thinking that this is somehow cooler than using a rez shrine. it's not. it's just a waste of everyone else's time.

Need More Ectos · Jul 13, 2010, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazilla

i scratch my head at people i group with that refuse to use a rez shrine due to pride. when you have partywide DP removal and rez scrolls there is no reason for a whole team to sit and wait for the monk to use rebirth, rez chant etc. in PvE. Stop thinking that this is somehow cooler than using a rez shrine. it's not. it's just a waste of everyone else's time.

what if theres only 1 res shrine? like the one in divinity coast during the WiK quests? do you really want to be ressed all the way back to the asuran lab and waste more time?

Levothar Kingdom · Jul 13, 2010, 08:54 PM // 20:54

I disagree I almost always carry "we shall return" when I'm on a mission and when I'm vanquishing with other people because it's annoying when you have the occasional afker and they don't feel like doing a full party Rez or are going for survivor and don't want to die

Skye Marin · Jul 13, 2010, 08:56 PM // 20:56

In PvP, especially RA, Res Signets win games.

In PvE, use the slot for more versatility, but always bring along a small stack of Res Scrolls in case of emergencies.

N I T E Stalker · Jul 13, 2010, 09:16 PM // 21:16

I dont even use res in PvE its useless and just takes another spot in my skill bar...
my heroes take res.

I would suggest that to you too.

Painbringer · Jul 13, 2010, 09:22 PM // 21:22

Solo heros/hench normal mode no need hench should be enough

Solo heros/hench hardmode ... maybe just because I seem to be the only one that walks away from AOE and melee. And even flagging some of these guys do not move

PVE Group communicate on who will take it or a rez scroll

PVP RA I try to bring one and yep I POWER CTL Click to let everyone and there third cousin know I am using it.

PVP Jade Quarry / FA you would be an idiot

PVP Alliance you would be an idiot

PVP organized group Communicate with group