Curse

PuppyEater · Jun 01, 2010, 02:19 AM // 02:19

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Originally Posted by Gennadios

If you value your time so lightly that you're content to do nothing but click on the same pixels every 3 minutes, so be it, but it's not something most mentally intact players are willing to do.

Nothing prevents you from playing the game normally and using the booze. Just toggle post-process effects and it disables the wonky drunk effect...

Nobody forced anyone to get it. People let their completionistic OCD take over and didn't have the patience to do it right...

Martin Alvito · Jun 01, 2010, 02:24 AM // 02:24

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Off topic: You allow cheating in classes you TA (or the professor of said class allows it/puts up with it)?

No, but whether or not the case ends up at the Dean's office depends on professor and offense. Faculty with tenure are a lot more likely to forward than those without for a variety of reasons you can probably anticipate. The student's going to fail (and it's going to end up at the Dean's office if the student refuses to accept that), but whether or not it goes further varies in practice.

Lord Sojar · Jun 01, 2010, 02:30 AM // 02:30

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

No, but whether or not the case ends up at the Dean's office depends on professor and offense. Faculty with tenure are a lot more likely to forward than those without for a variety of reasons you can probably anticipate. The student's going to fail (and it's going to end up at the Dean's office if the student refuses to accept that), but whether or not it goes further varies in practice.

Indeed, I can imagine why. Also, tenured professors are typically cooler, albeit more snotty.

Anywho, back to your regularly scheduled arguing about bots and legitimacy or lack thereof.

Gennadios · Jun 01, 2010, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by PuppyEater

Nothing prevents you from playing the game normally and using the booze. Just toggle post-process effects and it disables the wonky drunk effect...

Me, personally? Well, there *would* be something that prevents me from playing the game normally.

My main has all the PvE related titles completed, when doing anything that requires any real time investment such as dungeons and vanquishes, I usually opt to bring a character that would benefit from whatever allegiance title is in question.

The only time I spend on my main is the hour a week that I sit spamming for sweet points in kamadan to waste my weekly proceeds on. So far that's netted me just over 700 minutes of drunkennes. I doubt the progress bar will even be past the halfway point by the time I'm done /w the other two titles.

locao · Jun 01, 2010, 02:44 AM // 02:44

i just wish to let my opinion on the matter of drunkard bot adn textmod.When asked if drunkard bot gives u an advantage everyone says right way yes it gives u an adavntage. ok i also agree to that. But lets not forget that ppl who uses texmod also has a clearly advantage on makeing cartographer title wich by the way its 4 free titles so i would says it harms the game more than a drunk where the players has to spend a huge amount of time making money and than 166 hours clicking a mouse to get 1 title...

PuppyEater · Jun 01, 2010, 02:49 AM // 02:49

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Originally Posted by locao

i just wish to let my opinion on the matter of drunkard bot adn textmod.When asked if drunkard bot gives u an advantage everyone says right way yes it gives u an adavntage. ok i also agree to that. But lets not forget that ppl who uses texmod also has a clearly advantage on makeing cartographer title wich by the way its 4 free titles so i would says it harms the game more than a drunk where the players has to spend a huge amount of time making money and than 166 hours clicking a mouse to get 1 title...

You still have to go out and actually wall hug yourself. Textmod doesn't do the work for you, it just makes it easier for you to know if you have gotten all the fog cleared in an area...

locao · Jun 01, 2010, 02:59 AM // 02:59

yes i know that ... im not saying its the same thing as the drunkbot. but its still a thrid part program that gives u an advantage on thoes who dont use wich is my case. i think both should be banned

Kook~NBK~ · Jun 01, 2010, 03:09 AM // 03:09

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Originally Posted by Gennadios

Re. the drunkard title. I don't know a single person of the ones that have it done that didn't macro their way through it.

Hi, there! Got my 10,000 minutes by thinking outside the box. - Running through quests, missions, dungeons, farms, runs, etc. while under the influence works wonders. I only "stood around" in towns when I had some trading to do.

locao · Jun 01, 2010, 03:17 AM // 03:17

yea i also got my drunk playing i disabled the efects so it doesnt bothers me while i play but i havent got my carto cause its a very boring title to make...
but that cause i dont use text mod.anyway just want to let my opinion.if we're going to condemn every third part program that gives u an advantage bla bla bltexmod is in this category.

Arm · Jun 01, 2010, 03:21 AM // 03:21

As per some of the recent posts, the drunkard bot should be punishable by ban. It's called the drunkard "bot" for christ's sake. I'm halfway to max drunkard on my main toon(still a long way to go) but I've done it the proper way.

People arguing about the need to bot because it's a time consuming title to attain are ridiculous. The title is optional - you don't need it. Imo the textmod for cartography (I know I'm stepping on a lot of people's toes with this) is the same - it's cheating. You don't need the title and you can certainly earn it without a mod.

Whatever happened to playing a game for fun. I always thought part of the challenge was beating a game the way it was meant to be played and therein the sense of accomplishment. Both of these titles feel that way to me. I haven't completed either yet (I think I will but in time, and ofc on just one toon) ;P maybe it has to do with that too. That people feel the need to impress with each of their characters but I'm personally not impressed by someone else's videogame achievements so meh.

I'm behind anet's stance of do it the right way or gtfo. I don't think I'd want to play a game that cheating was allowed and made for easy progress at least I wouldn't want to play it for long (similar to a girl that let's u hit it to quick cuz after that it's pretty much time to quit it *hit it and quit it* ;P).

And on a side note I love what that one guy was saying about "happy dhuum's day" it made me lol in every thread I read it ^^

Gennadios · Jun 01, 2010, 03:24 AM // 03:24

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Originally Posted by PuppyEater

You still have to go out and actually wall hug yourself. Textmod doesn't do the work for you, it just makes it easier for you to know if you have gotten all the fog cleared in an area...

And drunk scripts somehow keep you from having to earn the ~1million gold to bankroll the title?

Texmod also shows uncovered areas that count towards titles but are so far off the permissable paths that they don't unfog the worldmap. I'd argue that as an unfair advantage.

@Arm: there is no one drunkard not. Its a monicker. There are hundreds of ways to do it with totally unrelated and unintended programs. A script is a more appropriate classification

locao · Jun 01, 2010, 03:26 AM // 03:26

i agree drunkbot should be banned what i said is texmod also should...

PuppyEater · Jun 01, 2010, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Originally Posted by locao

yea i also got my drunk playing i disabled the efects so it doesnt bothers me while i play but i havent got my carto cause its a very boring title to make...
but that cause i dont use text mod.anyway just want to let my opinion.if we're going to condemn every third part program that gives u an advantage bla bla bltexmod is in this category.

By that logic anet should have included a strict system spec requirement in the eula since any slightly faster computer potentially gives me an advantage over my fellow players.

The difference between textmod and a drunkbot is that one makes an in game task easier while the other blatantly allows me to do something that is impossible for a human to do namely play the game while not even remotely connected to the computer.

Textmod makes wall hugging less tedious but you still have to do it. Drunkbots allow you to farm points while doing literally anything else you want which is impossible by game standards...

locao · Jun 01, 2010, 03:30 AM // 03:30

i know its off topic but what is this drunkbot ppl say ?

locao · Jun 01, 2010, 03:31 AM // 03:31

so the bot clicks on the booze while u are actually playing it ?

PuppyEater · Jun 01, 2010, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by Gennadios

And drunk scripts somehow keep you from having to earn the ~1million gold to bankroll the title?

One could potentially earn that over the time it takes to do the the title proper but since this is an argument for bots why not just go all in and bot the gold???

Pritst Of Death · Jun 01, 2010, 03:45 AM // 03:45

i think there are types of drunks bots that are fine i really have nothing agienst certin types that do things that are mindless like just clicking are fine, now using it while playing i kinda think is bad but i really don't see the harm of letting it click for u while your afk because thats something u could eaisly do yourself and i think thats y anet hasn't stoped them the bots in pvp needed 2 be stoped because they were harming game enviroment. and tetcinally they are something u can get banned for.

but i see no harm in texmod i mean that it just showing players where they missed along with anet has ok'ed them but stated they are not responcible for anything that happens to you from using it

Gennadios · Jun 01, 2010, 03:55 AM // 03:55

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Originally Posted by PuppyEater

One could potentially earn that over the time it takes to do the the title proper but since this is an argument for bots why not just go all in and bot the gold???

Script. Not bot. A timed FOR loop does not make a bot.

Ka Tet · Jun 01, 2010, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Your point was invalidated by Gaile herself, the voice of ANET support. So... do you have another one? You attempted to turn me into a hypocrite, and failed miserably at that, yet you didn't apologize. I see no reason to issue you any respect or decency at this point, apart from my obligation as a moderator to lead by example. That said, I'm not going to bash you further, but the fact remains, you were dead wrong in trying to attack me, and somehow make yourself more pious.

This campaign won't work my botting friends. But, I do thank you guys from the bottom of my heart, this is a wonderful dose of schadenfreude. Thank you, really. You have brightened up my year with your hypocrisy and inane explanations and excuses. Unfortunately, it's over and done with, and you are welcome to return to the game should you choose, but not with the spoils earned by you via cheating. Simple solution, simple end, and we oh do so like simple don't we?

In the words of the Asura: Brains over brawn.

Too tired to look up any more of your own statements to use as replies to your arguments. [Not completely sure you caught on to that part. Also not sure I should feel the need to apologize to you when everything I said was copy/pasted from your own posts, but I'm sure the people you said those things to would appreciate an apology.] Shame that you failed to learn anything about empathy, I was hopeful, but not every object lesson can be successful.

PuppyEater · Jun 01, 2010, 03:58 AM // 03:58

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Originally Posted by Pritst Of Death

i really don't see the harm of letting it click for u while your afk because thats something u could eaisly do yourself

No. You. Can't...

Not unless you have psychokinesis and can move the mouse with your mind over a distance in which case you'd still be actually clicking and not doing anything bad...