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Jensy · May 27, 2010, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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YES, you're totally right! The only reason I didn't bot was so I could sit back with a glass of wine and watch in amusement as everyone else was banned. How ever did you know? It's better than TV, it's the Banned by Dhuum Show~

*eyeroll*

pumpkin pie · May 27, 2010, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by Hellick Stoner

Well I for one hope you do have the evidence. Ev1 That knows me knows I have never botted or used other 3rd party programs ( except for ventrilo and Winamp) while playing GW, yet my account has been banned. I'll see ya in court ANet if I don't get my account back. And just a word for ev1 else that has not botted or used other 3rd party software but has now been banned: Contact an attorney in your area inquire about sueing Anet for the emotional distress caused. Make them produce this "Evidence"!

This is a very valid legal complaint. The time ,effort ,and money ( buying perks from NCSOFT), gives you the cause.

Actually, the best thing to do if you have not use a bot or violate any agreements between you and the agreement. contact support and get your account back, threatening a lawsuit won't help, because.

when you sign the agreement, you already waived the rights to sue them

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fireflyry · May 27, 2010, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by vamp08

I can exaggerate all I want, it's called free-will. Im not telling anyone to swallow what I have to say, I just said it. This community has a nack for "omg, you said something I dont agree with, LETS MAKE FUN OF JOO!"

Dont feed me psychology BS, I've been around for 5 years, I.KNOW.YOU.PEOPLE (in the non-creepy way).The people who cry wolf are just as bad as the people who ate the sheep.

*waits for the cliche' comment ending in "fail"*

Don't take it so seriously bud.

It's only conflicting opinions....on a gaming forum.

lol

snaek · May 27, 2010, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

I didn't bot, not out of any sense of moral superiority but because I didn't want to risk a ban. I used to bot all the time on Mafia Wars because I could care less if I got banned on that stupid game. I don't think the botters are bad people, just kind of dumb. They knew they were taking a significant risk by doing so.

All in all, I just want ANET to make it very clear to the rest of us remaining players EXACTLY what types of behavior will illicit a ban. As I have mentioned in another thread, a lot of us are essentially cheating in some EOTN missions by flagging heroes across the map to avoid mob spawns. That is in fact cheating and I would hope I don't get a PERMANENT BAN for doing so.

Also, there is that EOTN mission, "Service: Practice, Dummy" where you can type /resign at the beginning of the mission and it counts as completes (the one where you get the Ebon Assassin skill). I hope I don't get a PERMANENT BAN for doing that either.

I'm also curious why people who exploited the bug in the Zos Shivros Channel mission (to max out Luxon titles while being AFK) didn't get permanently banned either. That seems no different than a bot in terms of "playing the game while not being at your keyboard".

a lot of things can get you banned, but likely you won't because:
1. detection methods are crap.
2. they don't want to put in the time and/or effort.

Ewon · May 27, 2010, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by Move Down

Most of the people here suck just as much as the GM's of Ncsoft.
They think you have been banned you must have done something.
Can only hope the same happens to all that think that way.
Only good thing of this ban that i stopped playing games and have more social life again.
In the end is evry second you spend playing wasted

Ok, so you got banned and you think you did nothing wrong.

So now I have to ask:
Did you bot?
Did you bot on a side account and thought your safe, and "I didn't bot" only means you just didn't on your main account?
Are you friends with some of the people who did bot and accept free sh!t from them?

Really think about it. Your not telling us everything. If you got banned, clearly there was some reason your account was looked at in this way.

cormac ap dunn · May 27, 2010, 04:47 PM // 16:47

See this guy...

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Originally Posted by Hellick Stoner

I'll see ya in court ANet if I don't get my account back... Make them produce this "Evidence"!

is mad

... idle threats help man, really

Sir Cusfreak · May 27, 2010, 04:50 PM // 16:50

saying ANET should have put preventive measures in place is completely rediculous.

THEY DID place preventative measures against botting into thier game. THEY SAID DON'T DO IT.

That's plenty of preventative, right there.

There can reasonably be a basic assumption that the scum who were botting knew 2 things: Botting is cheating, and cheating is wrong. Doing what you know is wrong isn't ok.

NO SYMPATHY.

Tullzinski · May 27, 2010, 04:54 PM // 16:54

OUT F%@$KING STANDING!!! Great job ANET!!! Nice to know that you still care enough to take these first steps to enforce your rules. Please continue to let us know how many of these jerks are being removed!

Lolwut1337 · May 27, 2010, 04:59 PM // 16:59

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Originally Posted by Ewon

Ok, so you got banned and you think you did nothing wrong.

So now I have to ask:
Did you bot?
Did you bot on a side account and thought your safe, and "I didn't bot" only means you just didn't on your main account?
Are you friends with some of the people who did bot and accept free sh!t from them?

Really think about it. Your not telling us everything. If you got banned, clearly there was some reason your account was looked at in this way.

I'm banned too but let me answer your questions :
1- O'haaaiilll no .
2- I don't have side accounts .
3- I don't have friends who bot, or at least ones that tell me they bot .

So why am I banned ?

cormac ap dunn · May 27, 2010, 05:03 PM // 17:03

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Originally Posted by Lolwut1337

I'm banned too but let me answer your questions :
1- O'haaaiilll no .
2- I don't have side accounts .
3- I don't have friends who bot, or at least ones that tell me they bot .

So why am I banned ?

good question, why are you banned? i think that we can't answer that for you, but i bet the people who can would love to help... might want to try and find out from them, heres a hint(Guru will solve nothing if you are wrongly accused). but your repeated flagrant denial without a response to what support has to say feels a bit fishy... methinks the botty protests too much...

Fear The Apocalypse · May 27, 2010, 05:06 PM // 17:06

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Originally Posted by Hellick Stoner

Plenty of those cases are open now; many more have been settled. Don't believe it, ask Blizzard; or better yet Shanda Interactive Entertainment Limited who just payed a man who bought ingame items (like the perks we buy from the NCsoft store) which later were removed from his account. He Won! There are many more. Eula agreement is as good as the attorney argueing it!

I laugh at this.... You are really gonna try to sue over a Video game and the company banning your account...

R_Frost · May 27, 2010, 05:17 PM // 17:17

well as if we didnt know this would happen after the discussion in the demand for a response over botting thread thats now locked. it was pretty much determined that either nothing would be done or this place would fill with the crying posts about acounts being banned. im glad something finally happened no matter how right or wrong it may of been. as plenty of others have said, crying here isnt going to get your account back. although i think it would be cool if Anet continued to use Dhumm in the future as they contine to ban accounts. it would give everyone in game a clue that they are really still monitoring bot type activity. on another note, anyone else here find it kinda funny the starter of the demand for a response on botting thread, and the one who had so much info on the bots has been MIA here since the bans happened?

jonnieboi05 · May 27, 2010, 05:20 PM // 17:20

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Originally Posted by Hellick Stoner

Well I for one hope you do have the evidence. Ev1 That knows me knows I have never botted or used other 3rd party programs ( except for ventrilo and Winamp) while playing GW, yet my account has been banned. I'll see ya in court ANet if I don't get my account back. And just a word for ev1 else that has not botted or used other 3rd party software but has now been banned: Contact an attorney in your area inquire about sueing Anet for the emotional distress caused. Make them produce this "Evidence"!

This is a very valid legal complaint. The time ,effort ,and money ( buying perks from NCSOFT), gives you the cause.

Let me know when/if you go to court. I want to be there when the judge/lawyers laugh at you.

Lolwut1337 · May 27, 2010, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn

good question, why are you banned? i think that we can't answer that for you, but i bet the people who can would love to help... might want to try and find out from them, heres a hint(Guru will solve nothing if you are wrongly accused). but your repeated flagrant denial without a response to what support has to say feels a bit fishy... methinks the botty protests too much...

I alarmed support about that yesterday , we're in process of solving the problem . Me = not a bot . Me = totally Anti-bot/cheat

Grj · May 27, 2010, 05:29 PM // 17:29

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Originally Posted by windtalker

What does it matter? I know people who got banned and I know people who didn't. Some of the people who didn't get banned are more upset with the ban than the people who got banned. People who get banned are likely to either get their account back or quit. Meanwhile the people who didn't get banned are losing guildies and friends from the past 5 years possibly because of a trivial and non-existent offence.

That's right, people that botted actually cared about the game and played with other people. All you haters are going to hate but I know people who got banned, and they were the type of players keeping GW PvE alive. Meanwhile, the friend who lives across the country who I don't have an excuse to communicate with but we get on a play guild wars sometimes in the evenings, that's gone, because why? he used a drunkard bot or something. Makes the people who played the game because of the community, want to stop.

I know it's a surprise to all you people who live on the internet, but there is no black and white issue. People botting, macroing, w/e, need to be judged on the severity of their actions, and none of the PvE bots, at least, is equivalent to killing people. It might be equivalent to going too fast on the freeway because they wanted to get to GWAMM as fast as possible. What do you get? A ticket or a warning. Do you get the death penalty. According to the "people who don't bot," yes you do.

Honestly, some of the people who don't bot, it seems now that their sole reason for not botting was so they could laugh in the face of those who do. That seems really ethical. NOT. GG on superiority complex.

If a person has an issue with a ban then take it up with support, if after a review they get their account back then great. Irregardless of their standing in the community/guildwars as soon a you warrent a ban you should get one.

You and I don't know the full in and outs of what a person does with their account... what they say and the actual truth and two different things.

People are even trying desperately clutching at straws and making dumb comparrisons to try and justifiy their actions, finally anet took charge and took some action on this issue, it was becoming a joke... for too long people where getting away with both minor and major expoilts and suffering no recourse for their actions. This whole slapping of the wrists approach was pathetic.

Also note account bans come from other reasons other then botting and judging by the way some people conduct themselves on this fourm it comes as no surprise when they're here crying because they're banned.

I agree that some people are going over the top laughing at people that have been banned but to be honest some deserve it because they've been making a mockery of the integrity of this game.

Alex/Stuiver · May 27, 2010, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Fun thing is about this whole thing is that the peopole who do actually got banned DO NOT GIVE A SHIt.
Most of them got 2th accounts or even 5 accounts.
If they don't they can buy Guildwars for like 5 euro?
They can even buy the whole set for 20 euros, Which is nothing to me.
There will always be botters, No matter what you do, They will find a new way to do it.
Same thing as with Speed Clears, You can nerf all you want but there will always be new ways.
I will not choose sides between botters and fair players, I have known nice botters but also know nice fair players.
The nice thing is that it took arena net about 4 years to find out who botted and who didn't.
Also a nice thing is that people never got banned when I reported them, I have seen enough botters in pre searing with their strange names and the text which said: "Now buy ectos and shiz at www.wearetotalretardsdoingthis.com" Which never got banned.
I always annoyed me about this
Arena net if you see this, Take a better look at things before you actually take action.
Otherwise you would've known the Guildwars economy was bots.
The prices of a lot of things will go up, Not that it's a dissaster but people will start whining about that.
Now you can also see how easy it is to actually create a bot, Just inject 1 file and learn some simple coding and your off.
I've seen bots which could clear all areas in whole Guildwars.
Just got 1 thing to say and then I'm done.
All the people who are YAYA BAWTZ R BANNZ are being a sort of hypocrite, I know almost all of you would've love to have all the money the botters had.
You were jealous from the beginning and now that they are banned you can act like the brave guy who kissing A-Net his butt.
A-Net your a great company, Some things just take too long, same as the Cloning of items.

Zebideedee · May 27, 2010, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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I know almost all of you would've love to have all the money the botters had.
You were jealous from the beginning

Nope, not all of us are money/item hungry cheaters. Next!

Rocky Raccoon · May 27, 2010, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Alex/Stuiver

All the people who are YAYA BAWTZ R BANNZ are being a sort of hypocrite, I know almost all of you would've love to have all the money the botters had.
You were jealous from the beginning and now that they are banned you can act like the brave guy who kissing A-Net his butt.
A-Net your a great company, Some things just take too long, same as the Cloning of items.

You cheat you lose, it's a good life lesson.

cormac ap dunn · May 27, 2010, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by Alex/Stuiver

Most of them got 2th accounts or even 5 accounts.
If they don't they can buy Guildwars for like 5 euro?
They can even buy the whole set for 20 euros, Which is nothing to me.
There will always be botters, No matter what you do, They will find a new way to do it.

Oh excellent! that means they are the ones funding GW2 with your stupidity and mommys deep pockets! keep going morons, i want a november release!

Karate Jesus · May 27, 2010, 06:53 PM // 18:53

WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

It finally worked! Anet actually responded! I can't RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing believe it! This is amazing!

Hahahaha, awwww man. I never thought this would happen. I'm gone for 1 day and the mass ban slips under my nose. Amazing!

P.S. For all of you messaging me to ask whether or not I was banned, NO I WASN'T. As I've said a million times, I have never used .dll injection not even for silly textmod programs.