Curse

Joe Fierce · May 27, 2010, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by Oggy

Several people who aren't from Anet, which is what he's asking.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Everyone thinks I'm talking out my ass yet they are speaking from things they hail as truth and word of god even though they are only slightly implied or not stated whatsoever (i.e. have no proof).

In other words the types of people that would do quite well in the days of the third reich.

Cool Down · May 27, 2010, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by prey monkie

I'm just saying. Anet Killed High end pve/pvp with this bann. and why wouldnt they? GW1 is just costing them money. they are not gaining anything from it. why lose money if u can save money with killing gw. and sure pvp bots were nasty. but pve bots never really changed anything except for the low black/white dye prices

There's nothing high end about bots! but atleast now all the real players can play the game in peace and actually have some fun

Bob Slydell · May 27, 2010, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by prey monkie

GW1 is just costing them money. they are not gaining anything from it. why lose money if u can save money with killing gw.

Lmao this is my favorite one of the conspiracy theories. The company sabotages their own product (unaware of course) that it might hurt sales for their upcoming mmo, but they do it anyway.

BladeDVD · May 27, 2010, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Everyone thinks I'm talking out my ass yet they are speaking from things they hail as truth and word of god even though they are only slightly implied or not stated whatsoever (i.e. have no proof).

In other words the types of people that would do quite well in the days of the third reich.

I'll ask again, do you disagree that the drunkbot program is a bot?

Joe Fierce · May 27, 2010, 12:25 AM // 00:25

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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it doesn't work like that.

That's why there are Rules of Conduct. Rules of Conduct forbid the usage of ANY kind of bot. Skipping all you have to personally do to get a title and still being able to get it IS an unfair advantage over those who chose not to take the bot shortcut. There's no difference between the Drunkard bot and, say, the Raptor bot that provides unid golds for the Wisdom title.

People often forget that videogames are NOT exempt from rules just for being set in virtual environments. Expecially when those rules are so explicitly written in the End User Licence Agreement.

Well, sorry for not being an idiot myself. Never used the Drunkard Bot. Got the title anyway. Not banned. Who was being idiot again?

Wrong, raptor bot effects the economy, the drunkard bot doesn't in any way.

Bob Slydell · May 27, 2010, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Everyone thinks I'm talking out my ass yet they are speaking from things they hail as truth and word of god even though they are only slightly implied or not stated whatsoever (i.e. have no proof).

In other words the types of people that would do quite well in the days of the third reich.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/EULA/User_Agreement

Read through #7 and just stop talking already.

Particularly this small snippet.

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.......including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input.

Joe Fierce · May 27, 2010, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by BladeDVD

I'll ask again, do you disagree that the drunkbot program is a bot?

I don't think you quite see the point of what's actually being argued, and should step away from the tussle.

byteme! · May 27, 2010, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Wrong, raptor bot effects the economy, the drunkard bot doesn't in any way.

For someone who claims he doesn't bot, you're sure vocal about your stance on the drunkard bot. If I were you I'd shut my trap already.

snaek · May 27, 2010, 12:27 AM // 00:27

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Originally Posted by s73ve_o

if you pay for a game you should be allowed to do what you want with it so long as it doesnt impact anyone else. for example they mods that change skins. thats not part of the game but anet themselves have said they dont want to ban them

i agree partially; however, your not paying for a game in gw's case. your paying for a gw account to access gw servers, which is completely different. but in any case, you always have to follow and abide by the eula.

Ka Tet · May 27, 2010, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Question for Regina etc... Will there be a follow up announcement in a few weeks or possibly month or months releasing the pro-rated figures for the mass ban, based on reinstated accounts which were mistakenly banned? Don't get me wrong on the surface, this looks incredibly impressive, but NC support is not exactly a universally respected body.

Dzjudz · May 27, 2010, 12:27 AM // 00:27

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Winner winner chicken dinner.

Everyone thinks I'm talking out my ass yet they are speaking from things they hail as truth and word of god even though they are only slightly implied or not stated whatsoever (i.e. have no proof).

In other words the types of people that would do quite well in the days of the third reich.

Ding ding ding! You, sir, are the thread winner.

HawkofStorms · May 27, 2010, 12:28 AM // 00:28

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Wrong, raptor bot effects the economy, the drunkard bot doesn't in any way.

Drunkard bot makes ale easier to use and the title easier to get, which increases demand, which effects prices.

See what I did there?

Edit: Good call on Godwin's Law. This thread is over.

Joe Fierce · May 27, 2010, 12:29 AM // 00:29

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Originally Posted by Dzjudz

Ding ding ding! You, sir, are the thread winner.

I admittedly laffed.

windtalker · May 27, 2010, 12:29 AM // 00:29

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Originally Posted by tha walkin dude

Question for Regina etc... Will there be a follow up announcement in a few weeks or possibly month or months releasing the pro-rated figures for the mass ban, based on reinstated accounts which were mistakenly banned? Don't get me wrong on the surface, this looks incredibly impressive, but NC support is not exactly a universally respected body.

I am in an alliance of PvE people who as a general rule don't bot, but every single person I've heard of who got banned either was an occasional botter for consumable titles, or used TexMod/KSMod and that was it. So...either they are going to be dicks and lock people out so their numbers look good, or A LOT of people are going to get their accounts back.

hattara · May 27, 2010, 12:29 AM // 00:29

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Originally Posted by Hellick Stoner

lol you sound as bad as them. you make no sense. that quote pertains IF I DID Violate the eula agreement, WHICH I DID NOT!

No, maybe you should read that again. The first paragraph has several OR statements:

(a) NC Interactive reserves the right to suspend or terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and without notice if:

you breach this Agreement

or

willfully infringe any third party intellectual property rights,

or

if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us,

or

upon game play, chat or any player activity whatsoever which is, in our sole discretion, inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of the Game(s) as described in the Rules of Conduct.

That last part? Extremely relevant.

Oggy · May 27, 2010, 12:29 AM // 00:29

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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/EULA/User_Agreement

Read through #7 and just stop talking already.

Particularly this small snippet.

You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input.

Texmod gives an advantage to those doing cartographer. So why isn't it banned?

Rocky Raccoon · May 27, 2010, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Joe has you all rapped around his little finger, a first class troll, ignore him and you beat him.

Joe Fierce · May 27, 2010, 12:31 AM // 00:31

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Drunkard bot makes ale easier to use and the title easier to get, which increases demand, which effects prices.

See what I did there?

Edit: Good call on Godwin's Law. This thread is over.

So, a stimulation of the economy is harmful?

The Drunkard · May 27, 2010, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by Oggy

You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input.

Texmod gives an advantage to those doing cartographer. So why isn't it banned?

Because Anet is God in GW and can do whatever they want.

BladeDVD · May 27, 2010, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

I don't think you quite see the point of what's actually being argued, and should step away from the tussle.

I know the point you're trying to make.

What I'm trying to point out to you is whether you are right or wrong about your point doesn't matter. If it is a bot, it is a bannable offense, whether it is good, bad or indifferent to the state of the game.