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Zodiac Meteor · Dec 20, 2010, 06:25 AM // 06:25

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Originally Posted by dancing gnome

I never considered this. It would be the cheapest gold purchase ever considering the insane value the art contest prizes have in game.

/facepalm. My dad is a sculptor, he makes money by sculpting, I could hire him but, you would have to be retarded to hire someone to enter a game contest. 10000e =/= Real world currency.

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As you all know some people buy or sell GW gold with real money.
Say if you are a person that buys alot of GW gold, buying 10000e+ would cost fair bit, you could easily hire person for Art Contest with that money.
Or if you are a GW gold seller, you can also hire person for Art Contest and sell the prize for real money, and make profit. etc

You um, missed the part that you get banned and lose the money. Just sayin'

Dedicated GW players don't give a rats butt about 10k ecto's. Tzu uses her gold mine to make Guru contests, why? Because once you bought everything, you got nothing to gain.

In my opinion, if your a dedicated Guild Wars fan, you don't need money because you already know the game inside and out and have what you want. The people that strive to win contests are probably dedicated Guild Wars fans.

End · Dec 20, 2010, 06:28 AM // 06:28

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Originally Posted by Winry Rockbell

I honestly think 10000e+ reward for winning Art Contest is unfair.

except ofc that if you look at the c/o on alot of MKG's you'll see that they are much less then that.
If you look back at kani's and what not it's also irrelevent seeing as though at that point prices of them were alot lower as well and have only gained price over time.

If you look at the current c/os on the two that came up when I search they c/os are 4500e...

So basically if I bought ectos from the people I know.. I could get them for a little over 600$. And theres no risk. Theres no chance that my artist will loose and what not. Better investment imo.

Winry Rockbell · Dec 20, 2010, 06:31 AM // 06:31

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

Dedicated GW players don't give a rats butt about 10k ecto's. Tzu uses her gold mine to make Guru contests, why? Because once you bought everything, you got nothing to gain.

In my opinion, if your a dedicated Guild Wars fan, you don't need money because you already know the game inside and out and have what you want. The people that strive to win contests are probably dedicated Guild Wars fans.

I thought wasabi was the only one with all the pets.

Anyway i think a lot of people like highend pets but they are just too expensive. Maybe you know people with Kanaxai, Panda, IG, etc but i even know anyone with Oni.

novawhiz · Dec 20, 2010, 06:33 AM // 06:33

The thing is- Its not a 10000e or 5000e or 1000e reward. Its a unique little fun eyecandy that it theme related to the contest.

Because there is nothing else to do in this game/spend money on in this game, yes some people will choose to pay crazy amounts for these fun little pets or tonics or w/e. But Anet isn't paying the artists with ecto. If they decide they want some stacks of ecto to gather dust in storage instead of a dumb 6inch pet to follow them around then who cares.

And no one QQd about all the GvG pets work much more than these contest pets. Or what about the Europe mini pet contest that was 100% pure lottery.

And i dont see how hiring an artist well ensure a win. Some of the simplest/stupidest creations win the contests over and over.

End · Dec 20, 2010, 06:34 AM // 06:34

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Originally Posted by Winry Rockbell

Maybe you know people with Kanaxai, Panda, IG, etc but i even know anyone with Oni.

All that came to mind is tramp when he said this xD

which last i check he got his...
Kanaxai
Panda
Vizu
zhed
shiroken
ghost
oni
naga
yeti
grawl
and
Vizu

without winning an art contest...afaik at least.

dancing gnome · Dec 20, 2010, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

/facepalm. My dad is a sculptor, he makes money by sculpting, I could hire him but, you would have to be retarded to hire someone to enter a game contest. 10000e =/= Real world currency.

That's your personal stance on RMT. The simple fact that there is a hugely profitable business based around RMT in MMOs proves you wrong.

The simple reality is the most precious resource anyone can spend in a computer game is their time - we all have a finite amount to spend in life. If it's going to take me a few hundred hours of ecto farming the same tedious content for a reward I want in game or 3 hours of my pay check to buy that amount of gold in the real world, the only thing stopping me from doing it would be the fear of getting caught. Some people like to "earn" their rewards, some don't care.

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

You um, missed the part that you get banned and lose the money. Just sayin'

Dedicated GW players don't give a rats butt about 10k ecto's. Tzu uses her gold mine to make Guru contests, why? Because once you bought everything, you got nothing to gain.

In my opinion, if your a dedicated Guild Wars fan, you don't need money because you already know the game inside and out and have what you want.

I've played a not small amount over 6 years and I want to get 50 points for my HoM. I also wouldn't mind a few novelty items in game (dryad bow, specific Factions items with perfect mods etc). These things cost a lot of money which I don't have. Money titles, FoW for HoM, Z Keys or just rare skins. There is so much in the game I want as a dedicated GW fan I won't get because I can't afford them. I don't enjoy farming (to me it's the same as grinding a Final Fantasy team to max stats and weapons - easy to do it's just not fun) so I have never made much money. GW isn't the kind of game that rewards you for completing content, it's the kind of game that rewards you for completing content a few thousand times.

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

The people that strive to win contests are probably dedicated Guild Wars fans.

Most of the artsy people I know enter any and every contest they can regardless of how dedicated they are to that genre.

Make the rewards customised and untradable and there will be no problem. Players still get unique novelty rewards for their efforts, no-one gets super rich for real world abilities. It's the fairest thing for everyone - otherwise why not just give the winners a few thousand ecto as a reward?

Winry Rockbell · Dec 20, 2010, 06:46 AM // 06:46

Well i'm glad at least some people understand my point.

Actually hiring pro was my idea but i told everyone i know cos i thought the Art Contest rewards were unfair.

n few people really liked the idea hehe

Zodiac Meteor · Dec 20, 2010, 06:47 AM // 06:47

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Originally Posted by novawhiz

The thing is- Its not a 10000e or 5000e or 1000e reward. Its a unique little fun eyecandy that it theme related to the contest.

Because there is nothing else to do in this game/spend money on in this game, yes some people will choose to pay crazy amounts for these fun little pets or tonics or w/e. But Anet isn't paying the artists with ecto. If they decide they want some stacks of ecto to gather dust in storage instead of a dumb 6inch pet to follow them around then who cares.

I have 500k total plat in storage yet I'm a better healer than my Guild Leader who has 1000k plat plus 10,000k worth of stuff. True story.

This is just QQing. Having a lot of cash only means you have access to Eyecandy. Nothing more.

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I've played a not small amount over 6 years I want to get 50 points for my HoM. I also wouldn't mind a few novelty items in game (dryad bow, specific Factions items with perfect mods etc). These things cost a lot of money which I don't have. Money titles, FoW for HoM, Z Keys or just rare skins. There is so much in the game I want as a dedicated GW fan I won't get because I can't afford them.

This is turning into quote war way to fast. Here is an easy tip on how to get them.

FARM

I guarantee there is a better chance to get richer by farming than 10 places in an art contest.

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Most of the artsy people I know enter any and every contest they can regardless of how dedicated they are to that genre.

Wrong. Dead wrong. Would you spend 100 hours painting for a Guild Wars contest yet you don't care about the game? Case in point.

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It's the kind of game that rewards you for completing content a few thousand times.

The rewards include: Eyecandy and um... That's it.
I don't farm, I hate it. Yet I still make a lot of cash playing the game casually.
This is nothing but pointless QQ on 'i'm poor but other poor people can get rich fast in a easy contest'
Please close.

Boring and Pointless · Dec 20, 2010, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Why does this thread even exist?

The rewards are fine, stop crying.

Zodiac Meteor · Dec 20, 2010, 07:08 AM // 07:08

This is an event you can QQ over. It's purely luck and it feels unfair. Mainly because the drops is based on pure luck.

An art contest is not luck. You cannot sell gold without being banned. People that enter spend hours and money on the art contest to win.

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Originally Posted by Boring and Pointless

Why does this thread even exist?

The rewards are fine, stop crying.

Come on Jensy I know you have been looking at this thread.

dancing gnome · Dec 20, 2010, 07:21 AM // 07:21

My only issue is rewarding players with immense and considerable in game wealth without performing anything in game. To me there is a parallel with RMT.

I have no problem with rewarding the art contest winners with unique and novelty items like tonics and mini pets, it's a fun thing for ArenaNet to do and it showcases the talents of the Guild Wars community.

What is the problem with making them customised to the person or untradable to other people? This ensures you still reward contest winners with cool novel items without basically handing them a wad of in game cash. They still get their reward - the novelty item, not the giant wad of ecto.

Art contests shouldn't be rewarded with thousands of ecto. There are many different stances you can take on this issue. You can shoehorn in as many other arguments and issues onto this one to make whatever point you want, but fundamentally this is about rewarding art contest winners with thousands of ecto. It's not about whether gold buying is wrong, it's not about how much effort was put into a contest, it's not about why they entered the contest, it's just about whether or not ArenaNet should reward thousands of ecto for art contest winners when they have the ability to restrict the rewards to the people who earned them and prevent the instant millionaire effect they have.

I've said what I wanted to say, I can't elaborate or explain my point of view more than this and I don't need to say anything else.

Maver1ck87 · Dec 20, 2010, 07:38 AM // 07:38

Just please shut up.

Seriously your jealous at a VIDEOGAME!!?!!?!?! Zomg, meant to be played for fun, enjoy it, there will always be richer peeps than you on gw. Get over it! Enjoy looking at the artwork, but commissions of the peeps to make pictures of ur characters etc...
ALSO the prize is NOT 103241349817342812430e as you keep trying to say.
ITS A MINIPET or similar....
Tbh i'd just keep it and enjoy peeps seeing that I was one of the art contest winners ig.

Stupidest thread post ever, proves all gws players really do is whine! EVERYTHINGS NOT FAIR, BUFF THIS, NERF THAT, THATS TOO HARD, YOU WONT EXCEPT ME COS IM LOW RANKED, RANK DISCRIMINATION SUCKS, YOUR TOO RICH, ITS TOO HARD TO EARN MONEY, WHY CANT WE ALL JUST BE GIVEN 1000000e, HOM IS TOO HARD TO FILL, etc... etc...
No wonder ANET hates gws, all peeps like you do is complain!!!!!!!!
ffs

Winry Rockbell · Dec 20, 2010, 07:40 AM // 07:40

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

This is an event you can QQ over. It's purely luck and it feels unfair. Mainly because the drops is based on pure luck.

But thats normal in gw, even mini dhuum drop from uw chest is worth more than those two.
Problem with Art Contest the prize is way too high, MKG was over 30000e last year if i recall correctly, and Kanaxai is well just insainly expensive.

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Originally Posted by dancing gnome

Make the rewards customised and untradable and there will be no problem. Players still get unique novelty rewards for their efforts, no-one gets super rich for real world abilities. It's the fairest thing for everyone - otherwise why not just give the winners a few thousand ecto as a reward?

+1

Lasareth · Dec 20, 2010, 07:41 AM // 07:41

What is so threatening about 20 people becoming rich(er) in a game where money has little to no significance besides bragging rights. Deeply concerned citizens, allow me to propose a solution to your quandary: Pretend to yourself the contest never happened. Let time pass, the contest will end. Congratulations, you made it. Things are fine, the earth is still orbiting the sun and you are still playing your game. It is not as bad as you think it is. Jealousy is self-destructive, you are only hurting yourself if you care this much about the prizes.

And, some more bad news. (skip past the rest of my post if you are easily spooked, as this one is a shocker) Not as many people care about what you are wearing, what pet you have out, or what your title is, as you think. Those ectos will not let you lead a more fulfilled life.

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I think its unfair that people with an actual talent get rewarded vs. us people who roll our faces over our keyboards...

I agree. It's taken me quite a while to learn to type properly using only my tongue and nose.

Gabriel of Ravn · Dec 20, 2010, 07:43 AM // 07:43

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Originally Posted by Lasareth

What is so threatening about 20 people becoming rich(er) in a game where money has little to no significance besides bragging rights. Deeply concerned citizens, allow me to propose a solution to your quandary: Pretend to yourself the contest never happened. Let time pass, the contest will end. Congratulations, you made it. Things are fine, the earth is still orbiting the sun and you are still playing your game. It is not as bad as you think it is. Jealousy is self-destructive, you are only hurting yourself if you care this much about the prizes.

And, some more bad news. (skip past the rest of my post if you are easily spooked, as this one is a shocker) Not as many people care about what you are wearing, what pet you have out, or what your title is, as you think. Those ectos will not let you lead a more fulfilled life.

/win
nothing else needs to be said

Stapler Pirate · Dec 20, 2010, 07:46 AM // 07:46

People play Guild Wars for the sole reason of getting loads of virtual currency to buy rare items? And then complain when Anet rewards people with rare items for doing something fun?
How dare you Anet! If I had it my way you would removed all the textures and text.

*lemming* · Dec 20, 2010, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by dancing gnome

What is the problem with making them customised to the person or untradable to other people? This ensures you still reward contest winners with cool novel items without basically handing them a wad of in game cash. They still get their reward - the novelty item, not the giant wad of ecto.

Exactly. Not only would it prevent the unique rewards from being a form of RMT, it would also make them actual recognizable status symbols.

Shadowmere · Dec 20, 2010, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Are you people serious? Would you rather Arena Net not bother with community contests? It's a fun contest to bring out the holiday spirit and artistic talent in the community and all you can do is complain that the prizes are "too good"? Give me a break, it's like complaining about the lottery, do you think game shows are unfair too?

Winry Rockbell · Dec 20, 2010, 07:53 AM // 07:53

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Originally Posted by Lasareth

What is so threatening about 20 people becoming rich(er) in a game where money has little to no significance besides bragging rights.

Well don't you think its little bit unfair that many people have trouble filling up hom(50 mini pets, armors, weapons, money titles, etc) despite working hard cos they just cost too much?
Personally i farmed many of zkeys through pvp n heaps of speedclears but i still dont have enough to fill up hom.

But if you win the stupid Art Contest, u make more than what most people make in 5 years. How is that fair?

Gabriel of Ravn · Dec 20, 2010, 07:56 AM // 07:56

And to those who bring up RMT ectos are like what $40 for a stack I think is what I see in game with those little bots. Even if you were to sell 5000e for cash that's like $800 whoopie a freaking weekend getaway QQ. No one is going to retire or make a semi decent living off RMT on gw.