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Old Dec 17, 2010, 03:12 PM // 15:12   #41
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I'm sure the botters are saying their thanks.........
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 03:30 PM // 15:30   #42
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The problem seems to be that reducing grind to get drunk/party/sweet points cuts into the income of people who need zkeys/minis/HoM weapons/FoW armor. So those looking for consumable titles can grind or spend less (on stuff that was already pretty cheap), but those looking for other things must now grind or spend more (on stuff that was already pretty expensive).

It makes things more difficult on those of us relying on sales of consumable points to fund those last few HoM points.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 03:50 PM // 15:50   #43
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It makes things more difficult on those of us relying on sales of consumable points to fund those last few HoM points.
Farm now, sell now at the going market price, and you'll make a lot money. Worked for me on Halloween.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 04:31 PM // 16:31   #44
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The problem seems to be that reducing grind to get drunk/party/sweet points cuts into the income of people who need zkeys/minis/HoM weapons/FoW armor.
The only thing lowering the price of consumables is the insane supply. The prices only drop because you get so many. Sell consumables for less, but you get more per time so it evens out. You're still going to get roughly the same cash per time on this farm as you would before - probably a little more actually.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 05:18 PM // 17:18   #45
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already finished those titles....would rather have the shards for the finale (guess I will just have to get them as drops).

but whatever.....
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 05:21 PM // 17:21   #46
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already finished those titles....would rather have the shards for the finale (guess I will just have to get them as drops).

but whatever.....
You can get shards from gifts too. Have over 4 stacks of shards already.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 05:40 PM // 17:40   #47
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Am I the only one having issues with the Jack Frost summon? More often than not, they just sit there and do nothing.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 05:41 PM // 17:41   #48
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Am I the only one having issues with the Jack Frost summon? More often than not, they just sit there and do nothing.
As I recall from past years, once they are summoned they attack nearby enemies but will not move from a very limited area and will not follow their master. Essential, it is a spirit, not a minion even though the game treats it as a creature.

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Old Dec 17, 2010, 06:51 PM // 18:51   #49
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As I recall from past years, once they are summoned they attack nearby enemies but will not move from a very limited area and will not follow their master. Essential, it is a spirit, not a minion even though the game treats it as a creature.
Oh, I got that it acts as a spirit, but even in range the damn thing wouldn't do anything. Meh, think I'll go Ranger; it seems Ranger + Necro is the quickest method anyways.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 08:04 PM // 20:04   #50
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You can get shards from gifts too. Have over 4 stacks of shards already.
have yet to get ANY from the gifts---lots of tonics and candy canes.....so yeah back to waiting for them as drops.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 08:18 PM // 20:18   #51
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have yet to get ANY from the gifts---lots of tonics and candy canes.....so yeah back to waiting for them as drops.
I always got the most shards from farming Strength of Snow, though the rift warden has yet to show up...
I still have 2.5 stacks from 2 years ago.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 08:24 PM // 20:24   #52
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Am I the only one having issues with the Jack Frost summon? More often than not, they just sit there and do nothing.
Try pinging a target (within its range), that usually wakes it up.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 08:27 PM // 20:27   #53
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Am I the only one having issues with the Jack Frost summon? More often than not, they just sit there and do nothing.
He wont follow you around, you have to summon him at agro range of the baddies. You can get yer agro bubble right on the edge of one without it the enemy attacking immeadiately.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 08:58 PM // 20:58   #54
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have yet to get ANY from the gifts---lots of tonics and candy canes.....so yeah back to waiting for them as drops.
I'm in the same boat...

opened 300 gifts, have received 10 shards
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 09:00 PM // 21:00   #55
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cool, i'll try to get 3000presents/day :d:d gonne need a partner to duo tho
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #56
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Am I the only one who can't win at SD? I've never tried it before now but I'm 0-5 and I'm not sure what i'm doing wrong.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 10:14 PM // 22:14   #57
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make sure u bring a necro hero. disable snow down the shirt skill then flag hero behind the captain of opposing team. ull want to activate 6-7 about 3 seconds after the opposing team turns red. run to the other side and start spamming snowballs make sure u hit ur heros snowcone if it hasnt already. then just keep spamming snowball. if u start getting attacked run to the snow area infront of eye of the north town
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 10:27 PM // 22:27   #58
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Also, accurate positioning helps with the necro hero. You should be able to position him behind and to the captain's left a little bit (of the opposing team). Kind of in the center of a pentagon of their team. This way you get 5 people with holiday blues.

It took me a surprisingly long time to figure out the best position, so I drew it:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6448/gw013s.jpg

The red lines show you the 5 you are hoping to catch with holiday blues, and how you want to try position the hero roughly in the centre of them. The yellow shows the line straight from spawn. That is, when you spawn you can simply turn straight around (double tap s) and run straight to the enemy, and you will be in the middle between enemies 1 and 2, as shown on the picture. I tend to try and make the line joining me and players 1 and 2 completely straight, so you can see I'm slightly forward in the picture.

Seems like an unnecessarily long explanation, but I know I'd have preferred to have someone tell me this.

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Old Dec 18, 2010, 12:28 AM // 00:28   #59
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Better position: Just behind Roland. This way you'll also hit 5 people (maybe 6, haven't checked), but the major upside: you hit both Roland and Carlisle, both of the enemy rangers (easily the most dangerous foes).
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Better position: Just behind Roland. This way you'll also hit 5 people (maybe 6, haven't checked), but the major upside: you hit both Roland and Carlisle, both of the enemy rangers (easily the most dangerous foes).
Ah, I've been trying this. I noticed they both used flurry so I was just getting them as soon as I could, but couldn't manage to hit enough people.
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