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Ka Tet · Dec 16, 2010, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Prince Rogrs Nelson

I've seen a TON of argument over this. NONE of it seems to be based on very good information.

It's not ONLY whites over 50g. Some would say it's whites over 25. Personally, I make my decision more on the level of the area and mobs. If a level 24 mob drops a bow originally worth 38g (a low value for such an area), I'll ID it, and chances are it'll go up at least 15-20g in value.

But if a level 12 drops the same bow, odds are it's NOT going up in value by a significant amount.

Now, it's no guarantee, either way. But using 50 as your line is kind of dumb, because I've had LOTS of 53g items ID to 54g, and probably just as many 45g items ID to 90g.

Note: you can ID greens as well, and this DOES make a difference in their merch value (sometimes significant). Ignore any idiot who tries to tell you otherwise.

I didn't say that I conducted scientific research, and you're an idiot for acting like I did. The point being made was that you can't id all whites and expect to profit on all. My personal rule of thumb that seemed to work well in most instances for me was 50g.

Rushin Roulette · Dec 16, 2010, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by DRGN

Um, there are numerous greens that you can't ID, particularly DoA/Mallyx greens. But since you dismissed everyone who says otherwise as an idiot you must be right

See, the first step to curing ones own idiocy is to accept the facts... even if you are right.

The best Advice I received and pass on to others is enjoy the game. If you want to make ingame cash, then stick to something you like doing and you are good at (And never forget, it is all just a game and in the end you are doing this for a few meaningless pixels, the idea is to enjoy your stay in the GW universe/game).

Dont Powertrade if you dont like following prices for ages and standing around in town for even longer selling or buying.

Dont run missions or locations if you dont like doing the same missions over and over again.

Dont join PvP matches or Guilds if you dont like to play PvP.

Dont farm if you dont like repeating the same action over and over again every few minutes.

If you do enjoy one of the above, then you can stick to that (or diversify) and aim to improve your personal skills at what you are doing.

EDIT: And always stay honest and polite at what you are doing. It may just be a game, but there are other human beings behind the avatars you are lying to or insulting.

micosay · Dec 16, 2010, 03:56 PM // 15:56

"C" will target the foe closest to you.

"T" will target a foe someone else has called.

...I had been using my mouse exclusively to select foes for at least 12 months until someone described to me the wonder of quick keys.
:P

If you are a warrior, frenzy and mending should never be on the same bar! That could explain why my warrior died so many times in his young life...

Veldan · Dec 16, 2010, 04:06 PM // 16:06

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Originally Posted by Prince Rogrs Nelson

Note: you can ID greens as well, and this DOES make a difference in their merch value (sometimes significant). Ignore any idiot who tries to tell you otherwise.

I've seen some greens drop in value after IDing them though, so I'm not doing them anymore.

LordDragon · Dec 16, 2010, 08:48 PM // 20:48

I have given out LOTS of advice. Only when someone asked because it is just better to wait until someone asks. Since I started in beta I learned a lot of things for myself and passed them on.

The one piece of advice I got that was invaluable was that protection monks are far better than healers. While not always true it did lead me down the path of trying new combination's of teams. That in turn lead to many many other discoveries.

Prince Rogrs Nelson · Dec 16, 2010, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by DRGN

Um, there are numerous greens that you can't ID, particularly DoA/Mallyx greens. But since you dismissed everyone who says otherwise as an idiot you must be right

...You also can't merch those, so what, exactly, would be the point of IDing them?

People on this forum, and in the game, regularly claim that IDing a green item does nothing. This is untrue. Any green item that can be merched (default value is 35g) can be identified, and will then likely merch for more. Any green item that cannot be merched cannot be merched.

Obvious statement is obvious. Your statement was tautological, and unhelpful.

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Originally Posted by Ka Tet

I didn't say that I conducted scientific research and you're an idiot for acting as if I did. The point being made was that you can't id all whites and expect to profit on all. My personal rule of thumb that seemed to work well in most instances for me was 50g.

Yep, your point was correct. I elaborated and expanded. It wasn't a personal attack on you. You'd have to stretch to take it that way. Please don't.

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Originally Posted by Veldan

I've seen some greens drop in value after IDing them though, so I'm not doing them anymore.

I have NEVER seen that myself. Not saying it couldn't happen...but it seems unlikely. Were these non-max, lower-level greens, like from Istan or Shing Jea?

Lensor · Dec 16, 2010, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by DRGN

Um, there are numerous greens that you can't ID, particularly DoA/Mallyx greens. But since you dismissed everyone who says otherwise as an idiot you must be right

In fact, you can ID Mallyx greens (as in use an ID kit on them and have a use dissappear, once), you just won't see it since there is no value displayed.

Best advice; Death level pets in Z-menagerie. Saved me so much time when building my zoo of max-evolved pets

MithranArkanere · Dec 17, 2010, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Well... I never got one... I'm the kind of guy that gives the advices.

My two favorite ones for newbies are:
- Pick and sell everything, and identify anything dropped my monsters over level 16 before selling it.
- READ what the NPCs say.

LifeInfusion · Dec 17, 2010, 04:33 AM // 04:33

Ensign's Treatise on Combat Mechanics. (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...nics-id674.php)

As far as making money: IDing whites too.

moldmaker · Dec 17, 2010, 06:07 AM // 06:07

learn to run through with mini map only.

try diffrent team h/h (hero/henchmen) set ups on you're own, rather than the typical h/h (shocking how well mezmers and paragons help

)

take any build , study it, and think how you want to mod it. its a great way of coming up with you're own style. if you get a build from another person you would be shocked at attribute placement (or they are missing the last 30 attribute points)

color of an item does not matter,, its the stats.

find a good player that teaches.

if you're guild does not help......

Rites · Dec 17, 2010, 07:41 AM // 07:41

"while learning the game, use PUGS. Once you have outgrown them use your H/H's"

" H/H's are only as good as the player controlling them"

" Your pet is NOT a henchman, it needs YOU to tell it what to do"

oh yeah, and one from 3 weeks ago when I came back

" Lets show them pet barragers can still own

"

Dzjudz · Dec 17, 2010, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Play windowed and keep your browser open with wiki.

Jenn · Dec 17, 2010, 07:59 PM // 19:59

1. It's just a game.

2. I've received lots of tactical advice, or even just had the opportunity to watch others and learn from them. Probably one of the more useful bits is positioning - for offensive and defensive strategies - in PvP and PvE

Perkunas · Dec 17, 2010, 09:17 PM // 21:17

The first 3 or 4 weeks, I was constantly rerolling, to get the best secondary.

Finally, someone told me, "You can change secondary later in the game."

"Don't worry about looking for "builds" until after ascension."

The Baphomet · Dec 19, 2010, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

H/H are smarter than 99.9% of actual players.

^this

Also, when you kite in circles, use your brain. Atleast 100 times a day I bulls someone kiting away from me with an IMS because they just run in a circle. This makes it easy to cut directly through the circle to where they would move and hit them with bulls.

Sundering weapon modifiers usually aren't ideal in terms of DPS. Vampiric is far superior on daggers, spear, sword, axe, arguably hammer and scythe, and bow(when not using a condition modifier).

Unless you're fighting extreme amounts of hexes/degen, armor bonuses are preferrable to health bonuses. You should have a spear with defensive mod, and shields for all damage types (as well as anti cripple/blind if necessary) even if you don't* meet the shield requirement.

If you play a physical damage class CUSTOMIZE YOUR WEAPONS. 20% damage is a HUGE bonus and only at the cost of not being able to trade the item. If you can't afford to customize that eternal blade you shouldn't be fighting with it.

Search google for a guide on Qstepping/qknocking. Qknocking often pushes kills in pvp. Qstepping allows you to swap weapons faster from, say, your 40/40 heal to your shield set.

Do not bring interrupts if you cannot properly use them. Wait until an important one second cast time skill is being activated and press the key for rupt. You will have a HUGE gap between acknowledgement of the skill and the end of its cast.

If you're interested in pvp, watch the observer mode commentary GWguru does. I don't know anything about it, but if you're bad you will learn a lot more from having an experienced person explain the match.

Last but not least, shock is NOT a substitute for bulls strike.

For the pvers out there, there only advice you need is add heroes to party, press C, press spacebar, rinse, repeat MANY TIMES until desired wealth/titles are met.

Kashrlyyk · Dec 19, 2010, 05:36 PM // 17:36

It costs 4g to identify an item. As long as the price on average increases by more than that, you make money out of identifying items. Even low level items often increase by more than 4g.

_Aphotic_ · Dec 19, 2010, 05:48 PM // 17:48

If you play as an Imbagon (and are good at it) feel free to be stupid and mob everything, after all +100 armor basically makes you invincible. oh my biggest piece of advice is when people complain you are wasting their time in game, you should always note this game IS a WASTE of TIME.

Shadowmere · Dec 19, 2010, 09:58 PM // 21:58

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Originally Posted by placebo overdose

ID white items... so many people don't.

This single piece of advice has helped me avoid countless hours of farming to fund my armor addictions (well that and the "pick up everything" bit, but that just seemed like common sense to me). Also, for the record my "when to ID" mark is when the mobs are level 20 or higher, max and near max whites gain a lot of value.

dawnmist · Dec 20, 2010, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Gold runes are never worthless...after salvaging them, id them again. The base value of all gold runes appears to be between 100g and 200g. I've never seen one worth less than 100g identified...and getting 196g for a rune that the rune trader valued as worth 25g unid'ed is nice

.

Never accept the default 25g for a "common/unwanted" rune/insignia from the rune trader. Or for a weapon mod/inscription. All those items id higher - blues at 26-60g, purples at 26-90g. This makes those early 2g-4g blues in Nightfall worth a min of 26g for their inscription...with salvage = 16g + id = 4g, you're still guaranteed to be better off salvaging and id'ing even if you get the min price for the id'ed inscrip/mod, and a LOT better off if you get a better id'ed value.

Anon-e-mouse · Dec 20, 2010, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by Ka Tet

Only whites over 50g, but yeah, I was shocked when I learned how much extra money you could make like that.

WRONG, Whites ~20gp will often ID to 30+gp.. That 50gp mark is way out.