Curse

shadows of hob · Feb 06, 2011, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Dudes, the bot problem has been known for years now and ANET won't do anything against it. So the botters keep botting and enjoy their free mini's.

I do really, really enjoy the obvious botters in this thread that are defending botting or saying 'it is pure skill that i am going to win 10+ mini's'. How much IQ do you think the people on this forum have?

Ewon · Feb 06, 2011, 02:05 AM // 02:05

wow, gotta say there are some really nasty players in rbr now. I finally got a good run going with 2 supers. the run was going well though there was another guy who has a super behind me. at the end he wait at the circle bridge and kded me right at the end. I asked why he would bother doing that and he laughed at me and called me a noob.

The players in this game amaze me at times...

Killed u man · Feb 06, 2011, 02:18 AM // 02:18

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Originally Posted by Ewon

wow, gotta say there are some really nasty players in rbr now. I finally got a good run going with 2 supers. the run was going well though there was another guy who has a super behind me. at the end he wait at the circle bridge and kded me right at the end. I asked why he would bother doing that and he laughed at me and called me a noob.

The players in this game amaze me at times...

Nah man, you suck for getting KD'd, haven't you heard? /Endsarcasm.

I'm convinced the top 100 would look completely different if you couldn't block/KD other runners, and syncing wasn't allowed...

novawhiz · Feb 06, 2011, 04:23 AM // 04:23

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

Any proof maybe?

proof lol? proof? what do you want me to do? track down a botter, tie him up and make him confess?

Im thinking (hoping) you realize that there are bots out there for GW. Have been for years. What makes you think a person can make a bot to farm snowball dominance but not rollerbeetle race?

And if you are so very interested you can google to your hearts content and find out what all the cheats out there are doing

Hobbs · Feb 06, 2011, 04:47 AM // 04:47

It's a race, not a time trial. The people screwing you guys up are attempting to get first place. i.e. win the race. This is not behaviour to be criticised, mocked enraged by, it is the normal way of playing the game, why you think everyone else should subscribe to your niche way of playing RBR is beyond me.

Missing HB · Feb 06, 2011, 09:02 AM // 09:02

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Originally Posted by Hobbs

It's a race, not a time trial. The people screwing you guys up are attempting to get first place. i.e. win the race. This is not behaviour to be criticised, mocked enraged by, it is the normal way of playing the game, why you think everyone else should subscribe to your niche way of playing RBR is beyond me.

That's all the problem. It should have been a time trial so that everyone can compete with bots. In actual RBR , every bots + sec accs steal rewards , whereas normal players don't ( almost ) . With a time trial , there would still be bots , but players would be able to do it by themselves...
BAsically that's the same problem than in RA . People got to deal with random players whereas syncers are getting 20+ consec every run.

Multi accounts can't be banned. Guys on ladder just aren't smart to be called all same name , but let's assume Ewok Guy got his accs called " josh the barbarian " , " lea der monk " and whatever , how would you know it's him ??? That's an other point , there are much more sec accs in actual ladder but many just don't know because the name is changed....

But , let's be honest... Main problem comes from the 500e reward too....Maybe it would have been smarter to make the miniature customized to x player. Overall , getting a rare miniature for yourself is already a good reward...

*lemming* · Feb 06, 2011, 10:00 AM // 10:00

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Originally Posted by Missing HB

Multi accounts can't be banned. Guys on ladder just aren't smart to be called all same name , but let's assume Ewok Guy got his accs called " josh the barbarian " , " lea der monk " and whatever , how would you know it's him ???

IP address? I doubt people actually bother proxying or refreshing their IP every time they switch accounts.

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Originally Posted by Missing HB

But , let's be honest... Main problem comes from the 500e reward too....Maybe it would have been smarter to make the miniature customized to x player. Overall , getting a rare miniature for yourself is already a good reward...

Definitely.

Artisan Archer · Feb 06, 2011, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Also, they need to fix the range of Rollerbeetle Lunge, cause it's bugged and if you target someone before he goes out of radar range and use the skill, it will still affect him, making it's range practically infinite. People seem to be abusing this to mess up top 100 attempts.

syronj · Feb 06, 2011, 02:33 PM // 14:33

I realized something about the races and updated the GW Wiki. The announcer Spikesan is probably based on the 1940s bandleader/comedian Spike Jones. Years ago, I heard one of his musical parodies on an LP with him as the track announcer; the winning horse was Beetlebomb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Jones

Missing HB · Feb 06, 2011, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Btw , i noticed the ladder isn't the same in american and japan districts. So , easy question : who wins the pet at the end ??

The Baphomet · Feb 06, 2011, 11:07 PM // 23:07

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Originally Posted by Hobbs

It's a race, not a time trial. The people screwing you guys up are attempting to get first place. i.e. win the race. This is not behaviour to be criticised, mocked enraged by, it is the normal way of playing the game, why you think everyone else should subscribe to your niche way of playing RBR is beyond me.

If they want to win, they shouldn't stop me from record setting, because they will lose 20 seconds from my KD harass. I have actually managed to body block some people for the entire duration of the game.

shodannet · Feb 06, 2011, 11:51 PM // 23:51

As far as I can tell, many people are out for short-term personal wins rather than the long-term win. By that, I mean instead of focusing on preventing anyone from gaining a significant lead (in first place) and keeping the race tight and the lead position always changing, they all focus on targetting the person behind them. Whilst this is the only strategy for someone in first place, it's an ultimately pointless strategy if youre in second place because first place is left to just to boost his way to the finish unharassed.

I've been in races where I'm last and been watching the 3 people in front of me fight amongst themselves as second and first cruised off the radar unharassed (and even worse, only first and second got to finish). It makes me just go "WTFs the point?? "Yay I came third!

"?? Get first and second!!"

I like races where it comes down to the hilly stretch at checkpoint 6 (after the beach) and I have to fight it out with several other racers. It's even better when it comes to checkpoint 7 and see if you can get the edge on everyone else in speed as you race down the stairs. Sure I like the races where I've SRBed 3 times in a row to a clear lead, but its not so fun for everyone else (and Im more likely to rubberband when I'm in the lead for some reason :S)

Shayne Hawke · Feb 07, 2011, 12:33 AM // 00:33

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Originally Posted by shodannet

I like races where it comes down to the hilly stretch at checkpoint 6 (after the beach) and I have to fight it out with several other racers. It's even better when it comes to checkpoint 7 and see if you can get the edge on everyone else in speed as you race down the stairs.

This would only happen if

Nobody in the game is good enough to race ahead of everyone else.
Most players in the arena carry a "KD whenever I can" or "always KD first place" mentality.

Both situations are good indicators that either you or the people you are racing with are terrible. You should not be looking forward to these kinds of situations, unless there really is some pleasure that you pull from getting knocked by other racers.

Hobbs · Feb 07, 2011, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by The Baphomet

If they want to win, they shouldn't stop me from record setting, because they will lose 20 seconds from my KD harass. I have actually managed to body block some people for the entire duration of the game.

So because people are playing the game in the "correct" way, i.e. racing, you're griefing them? How mature.

The Baphomet · Feb 07, 2011, 12:56 AM // 00:56

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Originally Posted by Hobbs

So because people are playing the game in the "correct" way, i.e. racing, you're griefing them? How mature.

Implying there is a "correct" way to play a game.
Edit because I was on countdown for rbr: Also insulting maturity over my decision to play for record rather than title.
lollin

Hobbs · Feb 07, 2011, 01:04 AM // 01:04

It's called Rollerbeetle Racing non? It's a race. And the maturity comment is nothing to do with your intention to go for the record over the title, or just playing for fun. People do play RBR for reasons other than the record and the title, believe it or not. Griefing for any reason is immature, but KDing the leader, a potential record holder, isn't griefing it's just trying to win which in the end is the objective of a race.

If someone bodyblocks/harrasses you right out of the gate, that's a nasty move but doing the same to the leader? That's all part of a race.

The Baphomet · Feb 07, 2011, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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Originally Posted by Hobbs

It's called Rollerbeetle Racing non? It's a race. And the maturity comment is nothing to do with your intention to go for the record over the title, or just playing for fun. People do play RBR for reasons other than the record and the title, believe it or not. Griefing for any reason is immature, but KDing the leader, a potential record holder, isn't griefing it's just trying to win which in the end is the objective of a race.

If someone bodyblocks/harrasses you right out of the gate, that's a nasty move but doing the same to the leader? That's all part of a race.

It furthers my angle to punish people for preventing my from my goals, believe it or not. I am aiming for all of nothing in this "race" and this type of play is going to be rewarded by Anet. Maturity isn't an issue.

Shayne Hawke · Feb 07, 2011, 01:26 AM // 01:26

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Originally Posted by Hobbs

Griefing for any reason is immature, but KDing the leader, a potential record holder, isn't griefing it's just trying to win which in the end is the objective of a race.

If you KD the frontrunner and that doesn't result in you finishing before they do, you are not improving your winnings, and you may as well be griefing. This is the case more often than not, I feel.

Hobbs · Feb 07, 2011, 01:39 AM // 01:39

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Originally Posted by The Baphomet

It furthers my angle to punish people for preventing my from my goals, believe it or not. I am aiming for all of nothing in this "race" and this type of play is going to be rewarded by Anet. Maturity isn't an issue.

You don't gain anything from bodyblocking them. It makes your goal impossible that race and doesn't make it any more likely in subsequent races.

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

If you KD the frontrunner and that doesn't result in you finishing before they do, you are not improving your winnings, and you may as well be griefing. This is the case more often than not, I feel.

This is a fair point which I have no problem with, using KDs to remain competitive and give yourself a shot at a higher placing is fine. Using KDs to screw up other players with no benefit to yourself is griefing, incidentally, this is exactly what Baphomet described above, hindering others with no benefit to yourself.

The Baphomet · Feb 07, 2011, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by Hobbs

You don't gain anything from bodyblocking them. It makes your goal impossible that race and doesn't make it any more likely in subsequent races.

This is a fair point which I have no problem with, using KDs to remain competitive and give yourself a shot at a higher placing is fine. Using KDs to screw up other players with no benefit to yourself is griefing, incidentally, this is exactly what Baphomet described above, hindering others with no benefit to yourself.

If I'm rammed at the start, my goal is already impossible unless I get 3-4 srbs. If someone gets blocked and trolled every time they ram at the start, they aren't going to do it every race.

Ramming at the start and what Shayne was referring to is what I get angry about.