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Ewon · Mar 04, 2011, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Less than 2 hours and my war is now Leg Survivor, 5 years after creation.

I kinda like the new leg. Survivor title as it gives you the chance to challenge yourself. I got the title on my war farming raptors in less than 2 hours. I think I'll try getting it from DoA on my paragon. Not having to restart your character is great for challenging yourself a bit more with the title. I love it.

Time to check out the rest of the update!

**cosyfiep** · Mar 04, 2011, 02:24 AM // 02:24

minion panel AAA+++!!!

new order for heroes...A- I had finally gotten used to the other way, and now they change it.

pre searing quests--nice, but now I have to GET to level 10 first, oh well.
cant wait for them to implement costumes in pre--that would be sweet.

now can we get them to change the character screen to a different one????

Arieon Ito · Mar 04, 2011, 02:31 AM // 02:31

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

minion panel AAA+++!!!

new order for heroes...A- I had finally gotten used to the other way, and now they change it.

pre searing quests--nice, but now I have to GET to level 10 first, oh well.
cant wait for them to implement costumes in pre--that would be sweet.

now can we get them to change the character screen to a different one????

The only thing about having costumes in pre would be the entire lore behind it.

If you never left experienced Post-Searing, you wouldn't have met the White Mantle/Shining Blade, ascended to be worthy of the gods (The 4 god costumes), faced the Lich, met the Mad King or see Gwen grown up and attended her wedding.

Let me know if I've missed any other costumes. LOL

Imaginos · Mar 04, 2011, 02:48 AM // 02:48

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

Minimum price for it to be worthwhile for a credit card transaction. Other cash shops get around this by making you buy points that you can spend on items worth less than $10.

DC-ing like crazy too.

This is a line fed to you by ncsoft. If it were true they would never have 50% sales where you can, if you want, only buy 1 of any said item for less then 10 bucks. CC charges online are not that costly, nor does paypal, an option to pay for stuff, cost any online merchant fees like that from what I remember. They sell the costumes for 7 bucks and make a profit on them so the whole 10 bucks thing is pure bullcrap.

ChrisCo · Mar 04, 2011, 03:18 AM // 03:18

Just did fow with 7 heros, was great fun.

Good job anet, best update in a looooong time =D

dawnmist · Mar 04, 2011, 04:03 AM // 04:03

So, uh...I checked the wiki and found the listing for today's presearing quest, but it doesn't seem to list what today's vanquish quest is yet.

I'm stuck at work, and heading out tonight, so it'll probably be 10-12 hours before I can check whether it's a quest I want to grab to do over the weekend. Suspense = killing me.

Del · Mar 04, 2011, 04:46 AM // 04:46

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Originally Posted by dawnmist

So, uh...I checked the wiki and found the listing for today's presearing quest, but it doesn't seem to list what today's vanquish quest is yet.

I'm stuck at work, and heading out tonight, so it'll probably be 10-12 hours before I can check whether it's a quest I want to grab to do over the weekend. Suspense = killing me.

Jaya bluffs.

Arieon Ito · Mar 04, 2011, 04:59 AM // 04:59

Can't wait for the wiki experts to get up detailed explanations on all the new features with the Feature Build.

Verene · Mar 04, 2011, 05:21 AM // 05:21

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Originally Posted by Del

Jaya bluffs.

Which I found to be a great start since Cantha's what I'm working on at the moment and I haven't done any of Shing Jea yet.

I love this update. I did shell out for the Mercenary Hero 3-pack, so I have my monk, mesmer, and necromancer running around with me. All-girl party = win.

Horace Slughorn · Mar 04, 2011, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Pretty good update all in all. I won't get much use out of it because I pretty much just log in to doa with my guild, but I think a large part of the player base will find it useful. All of the updates were designed to make the game a bit more enjoyable, convenient, interactive and less frustrating

Basically considering I spent so little money on this game, I'm amazed and grateful for any content update, especially one of this calibre.

X Dr Pepper X · Mar 04, 2011, 05:34 AM // 05:34

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

now can we get them to change the character screen to a different one????

And music on character screen as well. I nostalgia hard for NF.

I have only one qualm with this update:

If I am correct, mercs basically allow you to add a hero into your party expanding say 3 Necros available to 4 or more.

I think this is utter shit. GW was never meant to be about paying to get an advantage in gameplay. That stuff belongs in other MMOs, but not GW. Keep it cosmetic and harmless. Now I have to run around knowing my playstyle is inferior because I didn't shell money out for another Necro or Rit hero.

If I am wrong, disregard this.

Arieon Ito · Mar 04, 2011, 05:34 AM // 05:34

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Originally Posted by Linksys

It must be trippy at first seeing one or more of your actual characters running around on the screen off center.

I like the check mark feature on the party list. I can still imagine people going afk, intentionally or neglectfully, with the check mark still on. But I still like it and I hope the game benefits from it a lot.

I wonder if anyone's had sudden tunnel vision with their merc and scream 'Why am I not healing my heroes when I'm supposed to?!' when the toon they're actually on is something else, lol.

Plus we've all screamed profanities at our heroes for mucking up. With mercs, it's even more apparent all you're doing now is screaming at yourself. Sneaky Anet.

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I have only one qualm with this update:

If I am correct, mercs basically allow you to add a hero into your party expanding say 3 Necros available to 4 or more.

I think this is utter shit. GW was never meant to be about paying to get an advantage in gameplay. That stuff belongs in other MMOs, but not GW. Keep it cosmetic and harmless. Now I have to run around knowing my playstyle is inferior because I didn't shell money out for another Necro or Rit hero.

If I am wrong, disregard this.

It's probably one of those things where if it didn't hurt you before, it won't hurt you now. Unless you specifically roam the pvx wiki to find builds. And your playstyle isn't inferior because it's your playstyle. Unless again all you're doing is following cookie cutter builds.

Plus if you party with someone, excluding Deep and Urgoz, the max heroes you should and will probably bring is still 3. Unless your friend is insistent that you have 3 Rits or 3 Mes or 3 Sins, I think you're still ok to go.

X Dr Pepper X · Mar 04, 2011, 05:41 AM // 05:41

I don't take issue with the game being easier or whatever with mercs.

I take issue with it being exclusive to an audience of people who pay for the content. Kinda like the BMP.

Its just a slap in the face to me if the only available way to get another hero is to buy one with real currency. The release of new heroes could have been managed in a fairer way like the MOX and Thackeray releases.

dawnmist · Mar 04, 2011, 05:47 AM // 05:47

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Originally Posted by X Dr Pepper X

If I am correct, mercs basically allow you to add a hero into your party expanding say 3 Necros available to 4 or more.

Yes, you can...but people were already running 6 necro heroes if they wanted by either running a second account, or pairing up with one other person. 6 Necro hero parties have been available since Eye of the North was released. A second account is actually cheaper, and gives extra storage/etc...but needs a little more co-ordination.

People have also been using heroes + hench...which means for a lot of classes, even soloing, they've had the ability to have 4-5 of a particular class - just that the last one or two chars had fixed skill bars.

Given that...it's not really all that much of a change. It allows people to run similar parties to the H/H setups or 2-man+hero setups they've already been running, without having to use the second account for the additional heroes or having locked skill bars due to using henchies. And they get to customise the appearance of the additional chars - so they can enjoy that cool elite armor they've bought for their HoM even when not directly playing the character that bought it.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 04, 2011, 05:50 AM // 05:50

and hey if you just happen to have multiple characters of say necro or rit...you can make a full necro party (or dwg group).....yes I can see peeps making multiples of one prof, merc-ing it, deleting it--make another with a new name, merc it repeat until you have full slots of mercs...then use the heroes of that prof to fill out the remainder....oh yeah, I can see it already (and am not the first to think of it today)

Verene · Mar 04, 2011, 05:50 AM // 05:50

I think a lot of people who buy the Mercenary Heroes will do so only for the cosmetic differences, also. I didn't buy it so I can have three Mesmers or four Necros or whatever; I did because I'd rather use and see my Mesmer, my Monk, my Necromancer, instead of Dunkoro or Norgu or Olias.

I would really argue that more than three Necros in a group is something of a waste, anyway, and that the other spots would be better used by other professions. Sab/Discord aren't the end-all-be-all, after all.

Kind of irritated that I just got disconnected halfway through Stygian Veil (just to see if I could do it with just heroes), though. Grrrar.

Improvavel · Mar 04, 2011, 05:51 AM // 05:51

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Originally Posted by X Dr Pepper X

I don't take issue with the game being easier or whatever with mercs.

I take issue with it being exclusive to an audience of people who pay for the content. Kinda like the BMP.

Its just a slap in the face to me if the only available way to get another hero is to buy one with real currency. The release of new heroes could have been managed in a fairer way like the MOX and Thackeray releases.

Actually you can have 7 of each profession it seems - you roll a PvP toon add it to the rooster of merc heroes, delete it, create a new one with different name and add it to the rooster of merc heroes, etc.

I recommend people to try 7 paragon parties - they are quite fun.

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Originally Posted by Verene

I would really argue that more than three Necros in a group is something of a waste, anyway, and that the other spots would be better used by other professions. Sab/Discord aren't the end-all-be-all, after all.

This is very true.

Triple necro is good when your other 4 dudes are crappy henchmen (and even then with the recent updates and pve/pvp skill splits they weren't the best all the time), otherwise you have other options that can be as fast or faster depending on the situation.

Arieon Ito · Mar 04, 2011, 05:55 AM // 05:55

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

and hey if you just happen to have multiple characters of say necro or rit...you can make a full necro party (or dwg group).....yes I can see peeps making multiples of one prof, merc-ing it, deleting it--make another with a new name, merc it repeat until you have full slots of mercs...then use the heroes of that prof to fill out the remainder....oh yeah, I can see it already (and am not the first to think of it today)

Which apparently is perfectly viable since you can Merc PvP chars. Which might entice me to buy a new character slot since I'm lacking a ranger and I don't want to delete my current PvP char because she's already 2+ years old. And after that, I'll just use the slot to make a ranger in Pre-searing, get LDoA and Legendary Survivor and breakdance all night in Ascalon City, lol.

Elnino · Mar 04, 2011, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Great Update! Thanks Anet.

Now . . . Why does my mission map[u] keep going back to it's default position and size whenever I close and re-open guild wars????

AngelWJedi · Mar 04, 2011, 06:14 AM // 06:14

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Originally Posted by Lord Dagon

yea the prices for those mercs are insane, for $45 i could buy a new game... or 2. Really i would buy it if it was like 8 for like $5~$10... but $45? i mean really thats insane. i relaly feel if they droped the price people like me would buy more b/c they arent that insanly high price.

ah well i guess at the current state i wont be getting any merc hero :/

i so agree. im sorry but even if i could afford this i wouldnt buy it. for this price i could buy more char slots or another game or 3. or buy lots of costumes. and since you cant use hero skills then its kind alike a hero. so its something i wont do. but otherwise the rest is wicked! if could bring myself to play my derv i would get her survivor. rofl@ people buy kath hammers for 1ecto ecto. ello people play the game or heck box both are cheaper. xD and wow 120-300g per booze point now. >< makes me wish i havent merched a lot last month.