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Pluisje · Mar 28, 2011, 07:43 AM // 07:43

I'm gonna go with the introduction of templates.

EPO Bot · Mar 28, 2011, 07:50 AM // 07:50

I can't really think of any update that made the game worse. If you want to play old school, you still can.

Oh yeah, the best is probably the extra storage. I completely forgot we once had only one panel!

Draak Calinca · Mar 28, 2011, 07:51 AM // 07:51

Best: Sorrows Furnace
Worst: Codex Arena is a big #1, srsly, bring back TA and HB damnit...
2nd worst: Loot Scaling

EPO Bot · Mar 28, 2011, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Codex is easy to fix: Just make it randomly joinable.

HB should be erased from my memories for being just plain infuriating.

Black Metal · Mar 28, 2011, 10:20 AM // 10:20

non-content: reconnects

content: sf

garethporlest18 · Mar 28, 2011, 11:02 AM // 11:02

Oh man, good updates.

Sorrow's Furnace
Skill Templates
The whole attribute thing
Hard Mode + titles that came with it
Reconnect like that dude mentioned above
7 heroes

I'm probably missing some in there.

Worst?
That update in the late winter of 2005 that made Warrior's damage reduction go poof, destroyed some of my boring, long ass farms that I liked doing.

Inscribable weapons. I like them and I don't, destroyed a market for a time. It kind of came back slowly though.

Oh yeah I forgot about how they reduced it down to 10 minions, I mean I know it was for balance but how fun would it be to run around with 7 necro heroes and every dead body being a minion ahahaha.

The only two that really irked me. OH wait...THE WORST THING EVER. Removing grotto slide, why the hell did they do that!

Then there were 2 things that happened because of updates, that Anet let float around for a day or a week.

1st was..after they did the AOE nerf to NM back in 2005 to make it impossible to do Balth's Aura 55 monking on trolls, they did an update that brought it back for 1 day. I didn't make much money (50k or so, just off trolls) but boy that was a fun day..16 trolls dead in 10 seconds.

2nd was in 2006 sometime, they did an update that caused a bug that made enemies who killed other enemies drop things when those enemies died. So you could go to certain areas in the Jade Sea and just sit there and collect your drops. Made 50k off that too..good ol days!

Silmar Alech · Mar 28, 2011, 12:30 PM // 12:30

I play GW since the the release of EOTN, and in the time since then I think the best updates were:
- upgraded storage & zaishen-quests
- 7 heroes
- buffs to mesmer and ritualist
- the title point update on Nov 2008
- the buff to several elites on Dec 2008

I don't know yet if Embark Beach is a best update as well. It is not yet adopted as the central group finding and trading hub by the community. I don't know if it is ignorance or if the place is not suitable enough. It has its downsides, for example the distant spawning points. A killer function would be a "Leave" button to get back to the previous outpost like there is in the guild hall.

Kelfer · Mar 28, 2011, 01:03 PM // 13:03

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Anet's biggest failure, Codex Arena.

No, I reckon it was the farcical Embark update, and that by quite a long way.
They could have spent the time and effort on better things, like missing armour sets or GW:B. Ever since that was introduced, big lag spikes keep appearing outta nowhere.

Codex is just strange and a waste of space imho.
Removing the title that went w. its predecessor was a doozy too.

Also fiddling around w. Derv, to the extent it was done, was defo not a sound move.

However, bright side: The massive drop in the price of Sup Vigor rune was great! Cost 100K and more when I first started......

vader · Mar 28, 2011, 01:17 PM // 13:17

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Worst update, by far, the worst idea Anet ever had, is still the inscriptions. They screwed over the entire weapon market, made every green weapon redundant and causes retards in kama that call me a noob when I ask if they happen to have any uninscr shields, because, of course, inscr shields are far more valuable.. Ffs..

Inscriptions were probably one of the best updates. Complaining they "screwed over the entire weapon market" is just ridiculous. Now if you want a certain sword skin with 15^50 on it, you don't have to sit in town spamming for days looking for the one person that has one to sell and then having to pay a small fortune for it.

I just don't see how that's a bad thing.

garethporlest18 · Mar 28, 2011, 02:36 PM // 14:36

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Originally Posted by vader

Inscriptions were probably one of the best updates. Complaining they "screwed over the entire weapon market" is just ridiculous. Now if you want a certain sword skin with 15^50 on it, you don't have to sit in town spamming for days looking for the one person that has one to sell and then having to pay a small fortune for it.

I just don't see how that's a bad thing.

For most people it's great. For people like myself and those who used to trade weapons back in the day it kind of was a double edged blade. Sure we don't have to go searching for that one weapon anymore but it also killed our market, sure some things went back to selling big, because non insc collectors came, but for the most part..between over abundance and inscriptions the market died on a lot of things that used to be a semi-easy sell.

Which was really good for chest runners and the like, we could support our habit and title with the items we got from the chests..you can do that now but the chances of getting something that's worth something dropped drastically.

Right now it's kind of a moot point cause it's been so long, but that's how I'd say those who don't like it because of that reason, view it.

Painbringer · Mar 28, 2011, 03:13 PM // 15:13

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Sorrow's Furnace perhaps. Lots of good memories.

Ditto to this

Bright Star Shine · Mar 28, 2011, 05:07 PM // 17:07

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Originally Posted by vader

Inscriptions were probably one of the best updates. Complaining they "screwed over the entire weapon market" is just ridiculous. Now if you want a certain sword skin with 15^50 on it, you don't have to sit in town spamming for days looking for the one person that has one to sell and then having to pay a small fortune for it.

I just don't see how that's a bad thing.

Most weapons, of most skins are available of collectors, with most mods on them, so if you really wanted a skin with a certain mod, you could find one. On the other hand, finding your q9 15^50 weapon wasn't that hard, trust me. What I hated about it, was that they created a nice system of collectors and green items, which covered a large chunk of the weapon spectrum, and then all of a sudden, they destroyed it completely. Who uses green weapons? Who uses stuff to get weapons from collectors? No one, because every perfect weapon is now within reach, and it will only cost you about 5-10k to make it.

vader · Mar 28, 2011, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Who uses green weapons?

Many of my characters still use green weapons:

Necro - Staff of the Heirophant
Mesmer - Rose Focus
Elementalist - Ilsundur's Staff
Ritualist - Bogroot Staff

Other than that, green weapons are pretty much standard fare for 90% of my heroes.

mrmango · Mar 28, 2011, 07:08 PM // 19:08

I don't remember anything I didn't like at first except the PVE PVP split, but now I like that too.
I think 7 heroes is my fav.

Skyy High · Mar 28, 2011, 07:26 PM // 19:26

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Originally Posted by Masmar

They also killed gw as an mmo

I henched Prophecies and Factions. Stop crying already.

To the topic at hand: tough call, but I'm gonna say reconnects, followed by inscriptions and insignias (separating armor looks from armor stats? yes please), followed by heroes.

Lanier · Mar 28, 2011, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Who uses green weapons?

A lot of people use green weapons (myself included). Any that I dont use go to my heroes.

BrokenSymmetry · Mar 28, 2011, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Best: Removal of attribute point refunds.
Worst: Codex Arena. The only really big miscalculation by ArenaNet on what their players want.

azur3 · Mar 28, 2011, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Best: 7H, Sorrows Furnace, Ursan nerf
Worst: chain of SF nerfs, Codex instead of TA

Voodoo Rage · Mar 28, 2011, 10:58 PM // 22:58

No mention of the ritualist update? That drastically changed the game for me.

7 heroes is right up there too. Never set foot in FoW before than, now I feel like I'm a pro.

The Ursan nerf was actually pretty great me for me. I came to GW right around the time EotN came out, so I used to run around doing nothing but Ursan on my single ranger. The nerf was devastating to me at the time but it did force me to learn to finally play the game and most importantly to roll a bunch of new professions on my account.

MisterB · Mar 28, 2011, 11:30 PM // 23:30

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Game_updates/20050907