Curse

Ellix Cantero · Apr 29, 2011, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

Flux is one of the worst updates to PvP since I started playing.

I'm long retired from serious PvP, but I imagined after reading a little bit about flux that it would be the source of much facepalming.

PvPers like change even less than PvEers. There'll be much QQing over random nerfing of meta builds.

Kc Quipor Ultra · Apr 29, 2011, 12:45 PM // 12:45

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Originally Posted by BuD

Seems like we are getting a lot of the stuff we have asked for in the past...ability to change back to the old log in screens in the works?

this...... this is something i realy want for like years already

urania · Apr 29, 2011, 01:46 PM // 13:46

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Originally Posted by Ellix Cantero

I'm long retired from serious PvP, but I imagined after reading a little bit about flux that it would be the source of much facepalming.

PvPers like change even less than PvEers. There'll be much QQing over random nerfing of meta builds.

you have little clue what you're on about.

the following quote form the flux effect thread may explain why you have little clue what you're on about.

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Originally Posted by lemming

"The introduction of Flux is a compelling tool to help us keep our competitive formats dynamic"

An example of some other updates that were introduced to "keep our competitive formats dynamic":

http://www.guildwiki.org/Game_updates/20080807
http://www.guildwiki.org/Game_updates/20081211

Change can be good. Blind change for the sake of change is bad.

mind my emphasis.

Malice Black · Apr 29, 2011, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Game changes are only bad for those too inept to adept. A great change it may not be, but it's still better then allowing a stale game to continue plodding along.

MithranArkanere · Apr 29, 2011, 02:37 PM // 14:37

For me the best parts are the visual (high-res textures in other players in outposts and costumes in pre-Searing) and Razah's 'fix'.

The Flux sounds nice... but I would have been more... extreme with the effects. For example, with Lone Wolf: Instead 10% for being alone... 15%!
I barely feel any changes. Silly warriors and assassins that take my elementalist on alone are still dying before they her health under 50%.

Hyaon · Apr 29, 2011, 02:39 PM // 14:39

Lone Wolf...encourage them with a big damage boost and slightly lower damage taking....50%/30%

ErrantVenture · Apr 29, 2011, 02:42 PM // 14:42

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

For me the best parts are the visual (high-res textures in other players in outposts and costumes in pre-Searing) and Razah's 'fix'.

The Flux sounds nice... but I would have been more... extreme with the effects. For example, with Lone Wolf: Instead 10% for being alone... 15%!
I barely feel any changes. Silly warriors and assassins that take my elementalist on alone are still dying before they her health under 50%.

Are you dumb? a 20% damage boost (the effect change for a 1v1 fight) is already a stupidly dumb mechanic that does nothing but promote instagib assassins (characters which have ALWAYS been bad for the game and targeted with nerfs)

AngelWJedi · Apr 29, 2011, 02:45 PM // 14:45

really that low? wow maybe i can some day afford a gwen/jora/thackery/kunny tonic. *dreams* so for these hm quest how do they work? as in you can always do the quest and they add in more each day? or does it rotate like the zaishen stuff?

Xiaquin · Apr 29, 2011, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Love the update overall. I didn't notice the hi-res textures change after enabling and rezoning. I'll try it again and restart the client. The rest of the changes are pretty neat; happy anniversary to GW.

So, Villainy of Galrath. I like challenge in PvE, but not when the challenge is just getting mobbed by a huge aggro using everything and the kitchen sink. Sorry guys but the reward isn't worth it. I honestly hope future quests are more thought-out, and that's my only complaint.

**cosyfiep** · Apr 29, 2011, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by Kc Quipor Ultra

this...... this is something i realy want for like years already

2nd.....would LOVE to see the old screens (which they have told us time and time again could NOT be done, yet we have some other stuff which we were told the same thing about).

tonics--would have rather seen ones like togo, elder rhea, danika, etc (or cynn, eve etc)....not heroes whom I change their armors almost as quickly as I can get them (I hate their starter armors--bleh)....

Carboplatin · Apr 29, 2011, 06:01 PM // 18:01

The new Vilany of Galrath was kinda meh.

No new drops, not repeatable. Just a one shot deal that took about 15min.

Stolen Souls · Apr 29, 2011, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Update was pretty good. HM quests are meh. Lot's of exp, but that isn't exactly something I need at this point. Some of the tonics are VERY cool (Margonite and Destroyer). Costume and hat makers in Pre was something I've wanted for a while..now people in pre will actually look a little more varied, rather than everyone wearing the same black-dyed starter armor. High res textures are nice. Razah update is meh...it might be neat to make him a Mes or Necro but other than that I'll be keeping him as a Rit anyway. Friend location seems a little redundant to me. Besides using it to find out who's been stalking me (add random person to list, if their location shows up it means I've been on their list all along...kinda creepy >.> ), I don't see much use for it. Overall a cool update though.

Reverend Dr · Apr 29, 2011, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Game changes are only bad for those too inept to adept. A great change it may not be, but it's still better then allowing a stale game to continue plodding along.

Its not about a lack of ability to adapt, its never been about the lack of ability to adapt; when whatever was currently overpowered, it was run and at the same time was being complained about. Its about it being a poorly thought out change for change's sake.

Hobbs · Apr 29, 2011, 07:27 PM // 19:27

So, if you switch Razah to primary Warrior he gets 80AL right?

cantalus · Apr 29, 2011, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Game changes are only bad for those too inept to adept. A great change it may not be, but it's still better then allowing a stale game to continue plodding along.

if we're going to discuss pvp we should have a thread in gladiators so we don't get inane platitudes like this

NewSin · Apr 29, 2011, 08:22 PM // 20:22

But its ok for you guys to sit and talk about all the PvErs in threads we start... As if we havent heard it from the other side.

Kc Quipor Ultra · Apr 29, 2011, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Update - Friday, April 29, 2011
Anniversary Updates

Elite Xunlai Bakery Agents have delivered supplies of Birthday Cupcakes to Zaishen Supply Masters for distribution.
Added localized text for various anniversary features.

accelerate · Apr 29, 2011, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Am I the only one who doesn't notice any difference with the high-res textures? I've been turning it off and on while in a town, and I can't see any improvement. Maybe my eyes are broken.

ChrisCo · Apr 29, 2011, 09:42 PM // 21:42

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Originally Posted by accelerate

Am I the only one who doesn't notice any difference with the high-res textures? I've been turning it off and on while in a town, and I can't see any improvement. Maybe my eyes are broken.

you have to turn it on then map somewhere new.

Ellix Cantero · Apr 29, 2011, 11:09 PM // 23:09

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Originally Posted by JONO51

Man, I hope the titan quests come up in hm. Loved doing them the first time around and wanna do them again in hm too.

Also, anyone know what type of margonite the el margonite tonic is? Thanks.

The Titan quests were pretty much HM before HM was around. It could be brutal with some of the pugs. 3,800 hours of playing and one of my proudest moments in GWs was being the only monk in my Krytan Titan quest party and no one died.