Curse

Elnino · Jul 12, 2011, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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Originally Posted by Yol

You can only enter the opposite quarter if you have someone else in the party doing the quest that leads them to that quarter. My rit ran through undercity doing the cleanse undercity quest with a player running a prophecies warrior, and the entrance to local quarter was blocked to us (both of us have completed Factions). We shouldn't have to rely on finding another player with the relevant quest to get access to these outposts. It would also be nice to be able to enter Viz Square as an explorable unhindered for cartography purposes, such as Divinity Coast for example in WiK.

Nahpui Quarter explorable is different to Nahpui Quarter mission. Doing the WoC quest for Nahpui Quarter opens access to the mission part, via the explorable part.

Yea, that's what I meant when I said we could still access both quarters. I thought you meant a complete block always (sorry, bad interpretation on my part).

NerfHerder · Jul 12, 2011, 05:32 PM // 17:32

I read a few comments back about the lack of pugs for WoC content. I am on my third go around for WoC, and I have seen pugs asking to group in every outpost. Try the American English districts. It's full of pugs.

Aqrab · Jul 12, 2011, 07:44 PM // 19:44

So it seems like were going to be fighting against the ministry in the second and third sets. So I'm guessing that we might not be getting anymore ministerial commendations since we won't be doing quests for them, just a though.

Xx_Sorin_xX · Jul 12, 2011, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by Iuris

Really, the WoC quests aren't bad. But there is less dialogue than in WiK. Also, WiK was released in stages, while WoC got released at once. As a player's reflex is to instantly do everything, people bite off more than they can chew, and that's why people find the quests monotonous - they do too many at the same time.

This is the number one complaint I've seen about WoC, that all the content was boring (meaning that WoC is over, did you even complete it? It's obviously not over).

To restate it one more time, this is part one of three. There is more to come, and that will probably have a lot more story driven parts to it.

Swingline · Jul 12, 2011, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Theres a good chance we will fight the ministry in the next part and maybe the third. I hope we get to see the foe fire but I doubt this.

shoyon456 · Jul 12, 2011, 08:42 PM // 20:42

HM Falken gives a lot of gold drops. Other than that the quests are pretty standard, not too creative imo.

NerfHerder · Jul 12, 2011, 09:42 PM // 21:42

It seems that the major complaint about WoC was a fix to the major complant about WiK. WiK was released in small bits, although it was painful to wait for each one, we had a sense of anticipation that lead to a false sense of gratification when completed just because we had to wait so long. Now that WoC is released in larger chapters we don't have that. Personally, I feel WoC is doing much better than the WiK structure was as a whole.

That being said, I would have been just as happy starting from the cleansing Rheas Crater quest onward. Plot wise, they could have just said we(the ministry of purity) have cleansed the greater KC/Shing Jea areas but are spread to thin for the outer lying areas, so we need your help.

Plus WoC is telling the origin story, and that can be boring. Now that the stage is set I expect the story and content to get better in later chapters.

makosi · Jul 12, 2011, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by shoyon456

HM Falken gives a lot of gold drops. Other than that the quests are pretty standard, not too creative imo.

It does indeed. It also gives a heck of a lot of XP.

I think that, even though health and energy are all the same for everyone who does the quest, armour is not. Warriors have it easiest in this quest.

Saxxon Askanius · Jul 13, 2011, 08:39 AM // 08:39

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Originally Posted by Kunder

A betterer tip would be 'bring multiple MMs and pull everything at once'! At least, in NM that is. In HM more then 2 groups is probably a bad idea. Which is only a better reason to do it!

Dragon's Throat is epic battle fun!

Bring condition/ hex remove, MM of course, maybe less necro or mesmer but 1 artillery ele.

@ Apok -> Shōwa era

Brian the Gladiator · Jul 13, 2011, 12:23 PM // 12:23

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Originally Posted by tummlykins

Just because people don't pay a subscription fee doesn't mean their feedback and opinions are not valuable. Everyone has standards and things they like more than others. Arguing anything over a subscription fee is ignorant and plain insulting to the developers who made this content. They didn't create inferior work simply because there is no subscription fee. If people don't enjoy the cleansing quests (and a lot of people, myself not included, didn't) that's valuable feedback for the developers when planning the kinds of content to implement in the future.

Look up the definition of the word 'ignorant' before you use it. You will look less 'ignorant' if you actually use words in the correct context. Also, your entire comment is a strawman. I never said people had invalid opinions because they don't pay a subscription fee. What an absurd notion that would be. The only point I made was that people couldn't justify a victim mentality since the update they received cost them absolutely nothing. Your ability to completely undermine everything I said is astonishing... to be quite frank about it.

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Originally Posted by QUOTE=tummlykins

Arguing anything over a subscription fee is ignorant and plain insulting to the developers who made this content.

I just wanted to single out this sentence because it doesn't even make sense at all. What are you even saying? You say this as if the fact that you paid NOTHING for a service that was given to you isn't relevant to the discussion. Nice joke.

They absolutely created inferior work due to lack of a subscription fee. Are you kidding? If people were paying hand over fist every month just to play this game, I'm sure they would have more than 5 people working on it. Again, nice joke.

Painbringer · Jul 13, 2011, 03:10 PM // 15:10

So I finished the initial quests in KC normal and hard... Initiate Zei Ri does not offer anything more? Do I need to wait or am I missing something? There are a bunch more to do?

I did do Cantha Courier Crisis (what a blast)

but i am not sure if this is the same storyline although wiki says it is part of the winds of change

Xenomortis · Jul 13, 2011, 03:12 PM // 15:12

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Originally Posted by Painbringer

So I finished the initial quests in KC normal and hard... Initiate Zei Ri does not offer anything more? Do I need to wait or am I missing something?

Talk to the Initiate in Seitung Harbor; as per Zei Ri's instructions after completing the Minister Cho's Estate quest.

Gli · Jul 13, 2011, 03:31 PM // 15:31

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Talk to the Initiate in Seitung Harbor; as per Zei Ri's instructions after completing the Minister Cho's Estate quest.

They might have handled that quest transition a bit more directly, like having Zei Ri give a quest but the reward being given by the Seitung initiate, who then takes over as quest starter.

Putting a clue in the reward dialogue made me miss it. While doing these new quests I kept catching myself accepting the rewards without reading, a reflex created by years of playing without new quests and not reading anything anymore because I'd seen it all many times before.

Painbringer · Jul 13, 2011, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by Gli

a reflex created by years of playing without new quests and not reading anything anymore because I'd seen it all many times before.

I be numb as well ~ Too much stimulation and I am giddy as a school girl

Yol · Jul 13, 2011, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Some players need to start reading the quest reward dialogue boxes instead of just clicking Accept straight away

It does tell you when you need to go to Seitung Harbour, or back to Kaineng Centre, or Skyway....

Swingline · Jul 13, 2011, 08:38 PM // 20:38

Just noticed this...

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Originally Posted by John Stumme

Also, for the Afflicted levels: they're the same between NM and HM.

level 26 in NM... level 26 with 28s in HM... hmmmmmmm.

Iuris · Jul 14, 2011, 06:55 AM // 06:55

Levels, maybe, but i could swear there were MORE of them in HM...

merciless_mike · Jul 14, 2011, 11:09 AM // 11:09

A lot of people seem to be missing certain things or having trouble with certain quests. Honestly, I didn't know where to post this but here seems as good a place as any:

WoC Video Walkthrough

I'm in the process of trying to sum up the more interesting quests and throw some tips in the mix, but I'm lacking views. It strikes me as odd because of the amount of people struggling, yet not finding the help they want.

Xenomortis · Jul 14, 2011, 11:21 AM // 11:21

Well you have only just linked people to it really and if you want to get people's attention then create a thread in the 'Explorer's League' section.

merciless_mike · Jul 14, 2011, 11:28 AM // 11:28

I don't really visit much, I threw one out in Nolani just now but I don't know if that's right. I'm not going to post another new thread now.

As for wondering why my views are low; that's because I assumed Youtube would be one of the first places to look for help, other than the wiki.