Curse

infi · Mar 24, 2011, 07:44 AM // 07:44

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Originally Posted by ShaJiexi

I also know how much harder it is to build up that flist (more importantly, to have other people put you on their flist). And the rewards (beyond the fun of owning people in tournaments) isn't worth that effort, in general. I've been obbing to get a feel for the meta, and it seems like the top GvG guilds have full tournament rosters anyway, and it doesn't seem like there's much competition the next tier down. If anyone is trying to create/train up a new GvG squad that wants to compete in the tourneys, I'd be down. But it just doesn't seem like anyone thinks the rewards match the effort involved. Unless you are the winner of the AT, at least.

Looks like you just don't have enough motivation to build this friend list. It is not an offense but a man who wants to play will find a way how to make this real.

ShaJiexi · Mar 24, 2011, 09:27 AM // 09:27

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Originally Posted by infi

Looks like you just don't have enough motivation to build this friend list. It is not an offense but a man who wants to play will find a way how to make this real.

And an emotional attachment to my old friends list. How could I justify deleting old friends, even if they quit? ^^ It's full!

Still Number One · Mar 24, 2011, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by ShaJiexi

And an emotional attachment to my old friends list. How could I justify deleting old friends, even if they quit? ^^ It's full!

If you really wanted to play you would have no problem removing people from your friends list who no longer logged on. They are wasted space and removing them from your flist won't remove the memories you have of playing with them in the past.

Realistically it sounds like you are in the same position I am in, and would like to start playing again, but don't want to start over. You want your old team to come back and start playing again like you never quit in the first place. Trust me, it won't happen. Either move on and still play, or do what I do and log on maybe once a week and talk to the 2 or 3 people you recognize who are still playing this dead game.

Shway · Apr 13, 2011, 12:44 AM // 00:44

Been off and on in this game for ~5 years and pvp was always what I had the most fun doing! When it came to pve I'm more of a down content and be done kinda guy, even when it comes to farming. I'd spend a bunch of time getting all the gear, learning how and finding people to do it with. Run it a few times and then get bored. AB was usually fun, RA is randomly fun and the tiny bit of GvG was for sure the most fun I had playing this game.

Of course it's been hard to stay in a guild when you're off and on but I'm really excited for gw2 now and have been wanting to play pvp again! I'll be trying to find a guild to stick with and learn in. I really hope that the die hards are ready for and have the patience for a flood of scrubs, other wise they arn't going to want to stay.

chowmein69 · Apr 13, 2011, 03:46 AM // 03:46

I would like to have a champion title for my hom

Aba · Apr 13, 2011, 04:22 AM // 04:22

Sadly there is a huge majority of PvE players that will never touch PvP.
theres tons of reasons......just like there are tons of reasons why some PvP players wont touch Pve.
My reason is simple......No patience with people.
So playing PvP with players who are under the impression that there poo smells of flowers

is not for me. I get enough of that Selling items in Kamadan, listening to PvP hall players stroke there e-peen dissing on anyone who plays PvE. Which I can say is also a large problem with why a lareg amount of PvE players wont get into PvP. The PvP player base does not allow the casual player to pick up and play. The Hate, ridiculing and flat out Elitism with some PvP players is gross. Dont get me wrong PvE players do it too

Swingline · Apr 13, 2011, 05:22 AM // 05:22

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Originally Posted by Aba

Sadly there is a huge majority of PvE players that will never touch PvP.
theres tons of reasons......just like there are tons of reasons why some PvP players wont touch Pve.
My reason is simple......No patience with people.
So playing PvP with players who are under the impression that there poo smells of flowers

is not for me. I get enough of that Selling items in Kamadan, listening to PvP hall players stroke there e-peen dissing on anyone who plays PvE. Which I can say is also a large problem with why a lareg amount of PvE players wont get into PvP. The PvP player base does not allow the casual player to pick up and play. The Hate, ridiculing and flat out Elitism with some PvP players is gross. Dont get me wrong PvE players do it too

Another reason is pvp such as HA is a world within a world(microcosm). It takes 3 years to max hero title alone, thats if you have a good pvp guild to start, which is a huge flaw in a game. So people camp this place for years and not only for title but for pve rewards as well which is something that never should have been. Maxing hero title seriously is nothing but a burn out. The people that have r15 aren't even playing anymore because of the amount of time they put in to max this one title. It's not like this title is the whole game, once you max it theres Champion, glad and tons of pve titles if you want to get into pve. People that play other games I have played that are well balanced in pve/pvp don't play one or the other, they play them both.

GvG is a a lot better than HA but is still dwindling due to the fact the title is out of most players reach. It takes a lot of hard work just to start on this title which is another huge game flaw. Champion title should start at 800 rank or so.

*lemming* · Apr 13, 2011, 05:48 AM // 05:48

Why are the title tracks being brought up at all?

Swingline · Apr 13, 2011, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by lemming

Why are the title tracks being brought up at all?

Most people play for titles only, especially in pvp. It is an integral part of the game now and wouldn't you agree that making champion title achievable at a lower rating would bring people to gvg? Maybe with a few other changes it could breathe life into gvg again.

Reverend Dr · Apr 13, 2011, 06:53 AM // 06:53

A title change will breath life into title farming and nothing else. Which is very bad for the health of the actual arena.

cantalus · Apr 13, 2011, 07:41 AM // 07:41

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Originally Posted by Swingline

Most people play for titles only, especially in pvp. It is an integral part of the game now and wouldn't you agree that making champion title achievable at a lower rating would bring people to gvg? Maybe with a few other changes it could breathe life into gvg again.

no they don't, they play because it's more fun, more interesting, much harder and they want the challenge, sure some like their titles, and they're the sort of people that frequent bb/iway/sway guilds, but for most, titles are a by-product of the enjoyment, however since you also claim that it takes 3 years solid play to get r15....

fowlero · Apr 13, 2011, 07:43 AM // 07:43

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Originally Posted by Swingline

Most people play for titles only, especially in pvp. It is an integral part of the game now and wouldn't you agree that making champion title achievable at a lower rating would bring people to gvg? Maybe with a few other changes it could breathe life into gvg again.

That could make GvG as hostile an environment as HA, so while it would bring people it's not necessarily a good thing.

Also no, surprisingly a lot of people don't play for titles only in PvP. Why would the countless non c-range guilds play? Ohhhh fun.

Missing HB · Apr 13, 2011, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by fowlero

Also no, surprisingly a lot of people don't play for titles only in PvP. Why would the countless non c-range guilds play? Ohhhh fun.

Why are people syncing in Codex? Why are people forming r11+ balanced in HA when there is noone in halls and 6 players in the district ?

And there isn't a countless non c-range guilds playing GvG , most players left are MAT players that don't care of laddering , losing , etc.... Players there don't play for " fun " but for the competition , something which is close to , if not , inexistant upon all rest of PvP...

*lemming* · Apr 13, 2011, 08:40 AM // 08:40

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Originally Posted by Swingline

Most people play for titles only, especially in pvp. It is an integral part of the game now and wouldn't you agree that making champion title achievable at a lower rating would bring people to gvg? Maybe with a few other changes it could breathe life into gvg again.

Honestly, I doubt it. Look at the problems in RA - syncing, anger management issues, prima donnas who don't like even trying if the party composition isn't great. I assure you, RA was a far less hostile place back when there weren't glad points at stake.

urania · Apr 13, 2011, 09:27 AM // 09:27

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Originally Posted by lemming

Honestly, I doubt it. Look at the problems in RA - syncing, anger management issues, prima donnas who don't like even trying if the party composition isn't great. I assure you, RA was a far less hostile place back when there weren't glad points at stake.

correction: RA was far less hostile before they merged the districts and removed TA.

following spirit · Apr 13, 2011, 09:40 AM // 09:40

as a newbie to pvp ( only played a few times witha very competitive guild about 5 yrs ago) im hoping to get a team uptogether to have ago at it, yes we'll get our butts handed to us alot i think. But hey its all about enjoying the game

so if u do see us competing be gentle

DoopDoop · Apr 13, 2011, 10:25 AM // 10:25

Hostile is good. Hate is better. Show the younguns every strike must be precise, every blow counts and ONLY THE WEAK INCUR DEATH PENALTIES!

fowlero · Apr 13, 2011, 10:35 AM // 10:35

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Originally Posted by Missing HB

Why are people syncing in Codex? Why are people forming r11+ balanced in HA when there is noone in halls and 6 players in the district ?

And there isn't a countless non c-range guilds playing GvG , most players left are MAT players that don't care of laddering , losing , etc.... Players there don't play for " fun " but for the competition , something which is close to , if not , inexistant upon all rest of PvP...

I meant to say GvG rather than generic PvP. And there definitely are plenty of guilds left that dont mAT at all, above or below r500 are just as active (euro speaking at least).

Playing for the competition is part of the fun.

Reverend Dr · Apr 13, 2011, 04:21 PM // 16:21

RA is played for title farm and the arena is now shit

Codex is played for title farm and the arena is now shit

HA is played for title farm and the arena is now shit

GvG is not played for title farm and the arena is pretty good.

Clearly we should make the GvG title more accessible for everyone to farm.

shinyglove · Apr 13, 2011, 04:49 PM // 16:49

I haven't played 1 serious GvG because there is no non-professional guild that does it.
(played it since factions)