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Mss Drizzt · Mar 26, 2005, 01:53 AM // 01:53

I would love it if they used an AMD 2400+ for the GPU. Then we would have one kick ass Graphic card.

vas moon · Mar 26, 2005, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbie

you sure you didnt had any problems with geforce 6800gt(256mb ddr3) in guildwars?

i also have geforce 6800gt and gig of ram, but i have 2 problems which i posted in previous thread....which i reported to AreanNet.

what is manufacturer of your card? and what driver were you using?
mine is from bfg, and my driver was forceware 71.84

if driver was different, it makes sense(that it is driver problem)...but if we were using same driver....

and yes...i notice that image with nvidia card(6800gt) looks more luxurious.

im using the 6.6.9.3 10/29/2004 driver from Nvidia and the card is also from BFG. Did you get the 'new' driver to work?

Kirbie · Mar 26, 2005, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by vas moon

im using the 6.6.9.3 10/29/2004 driver from Nvidia and the card is also from BFG. Did you get the 'new' driver to work?

hmm...it must be a driver problem
yes, my new driver works well on desktop....except 1 visible problem
temperature display displays the temperature around 20% higher than what it should.

until next beta event....i dont know the graphics problem im having is fixed or not.
but i know for sure now that it is a driver problem since 66.93 worked well...and 71.84 doesnt
thanks vas moon

LordFu · Mar 26, 2005, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbie

hmm...it must be a driver problem

The newest drivers have a confirmed bug that causes certain cards to run signifigantly hotter, along with several unconfirmed ones. I suggest rolling back your drivers until the next version. Newer is not always better.

Kirbie · Mar 26, 2005, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordFu

The newest drivers have a confirmed bug that causes certain cards to run signifigantly hotter, along with several unconfirmed ones. I suggest rolling back your drivers until the next version. Newer is not always better.

you sure about this?
because according to drivers manual
it doesnt say driver will "make" your card to run hotter.
but
it does say it will "report" 20% higher than what actual temperature is.
which means...technically if my card is running at 50 celcius, the temperature display will report that as my card is running at 60 celcius. so my card is not really running at 60 celcius, but running at 50.

where was your source of information?
i got my information from offcial nvidia drivers manual....and that was a reason i kept the driver. if they say it will "make" my graphics card to run hotter...then i obviously would have roll back to previous ones.
after all...no one wants to run things hotter(technical term-wisely) right?

so which one is the correct information? please help me with this...so that i can make my decision according to correct information.

Loviatar · Mar 26, 2005, 05:56 PM // 17:56

nvidia has shaded the truth a bit at times in the past

have you taken a temp probe and checked actual temp?

it might be reporting what it accually sees

if it is simply reporting high then that is something very easty to fix

AS FOR VALUE

i am waiting for the results of a 6600GT SLI test which should be very interesting if it blows off a 500 dollar 6800 ULTRA

LordFu · Mar 26, 2005, 07:22 PM // 19:22

Your right, the temps just display incorrectly according to Nvidia. There are some issues with the drivers though. Check this out, and see if any of these confirmed and open issues are effecting you.

http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/7...Notes_7184.pdf

Mss Drizzt · Mar 26, 2005, 07:42 PM // 19:42

The problem that the Nvidia cards have is with temp. If the card is running hot then you will not see the performance that you should. Same goes for the ram on the card.

I second the sugestion to take an outside temp prob. and see what is what.

Kirbie · Mar 26, 2005, 11:29 PM // 23:29

thanks all
just in case...i rolled back my driver to previous one
better to prevent it rather than feel sorry later..so i decided to take safe side.
current driver has few problems(like two i mentioned previously) with guildwars anyways
again..thanks

oh..SLi will perform well...geforce 6600 is pretty good card too.
i hear it will double the performance as each card displays half of the screen each.
it may raise the framerates...but im not sure about improving graphic effects.
thanks

Loviatar · Mar 26, 2005, 11:45 PM // 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbie

oh..SLi will perform well...geforce 6600 is pretty good card too.
i hear it will double the performance as each card displays half of the screen each.
it may raise the framerates...but im not sure about improving graphic effects.
thanks

i know

the only question is whether a pair of sub 200 $ 6600GT cards will beat a 500-550 $ 6800 ULTRA single card solution

the detail will be the same but in this case the FPS is the variable

Lews · Mar 26, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55

No they will not.

2 6600's are almost equal to a single 6800 GT, but not quite, sense the GT has 256 mb of ram, while the 6600's have only 128 each, which is not doubled.

Loviatar · Mar 27, 2005, 12:13 AM // 00:13

sometimes real life figures fly in the face of paper assumptions which is why i am waiting for the test results

what they benchmark at will be of interest

accademic of course as i could not afford either solution

Mss Drizzt · Mar 27, 2005, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Here you go check it out for yourselves.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/186/1/

Lews · Mar 27, 2005, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Or
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/20...i/index.x?pg=1

And that other article suppourts it saying "6600GT in SLI mode? You will pay the same price and performance wise the 6800 GT will be better in higher resolutions as it has 256-bit memory in an actual 256 MB configuration. From that point of view you can't beat the 6800 GT.

I'm throwing in yet another little something. Buy a 6800 GT and you will be able to upgrade to SLI in the future when you need it. If you buy 2 6600GT's now your PCI-Express graphics card slots are full.

So the only reason not to buy a 6800 GT would be your budget. If you can not afford a 6800GT, well then a 6600GT makes a lot more sense. With that in mind you can buy another 6600GT when you can afford it. So the logic behind this is a little bit complex. But if we forget the "cool" factor then buying a 6800 GT would make more sense."

Lansing Kai Don · Mar 27, 2005, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtuoso

The 9800Pro will blow you away if you find the FX5200 acceptable. And the 256MB of RAM on the FX5200? A marketing gimmick. That card will see minimal performance increase, if any, by bumping it up to 256MB RAM.

-Virt

I guess my audiophile nature took priority, because I feel like I lost value here. The 5200 did just as beautifully (if not more so... cuz now UT2004 lags like the dickens... on lower settings than the 5200). Sorry but I am NOT impressed AGAIN with ATI... my vote is for nVidia (you live and learn I guess)

Lansing Kai Don

Lews · Mar 27, 2005, 03:19 AM // 03:19

I have used both, I like both equally. But I am sorry, hthe FX series of nVIDIA was crap.

Kirbie · Mar 27, 2005, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lews

I have used both, I like both equally. But I am sorry, hthe FX series of nVIDIA was crap.

yes..i have used both and like them all equally too...each company has its own unique pros and cons.
so i go with performance for price to pick my card

this year...geforce 6800gt have been chosen

...hopefully it will last long though. technology is such a headache sometime.

Mss Drizzt · Mar 27, 2005, 05:46 AM // 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbie

yes..i have used both and like them all equally too...each company has its own unique pros and cons.
so i go with performance for price to pick my card

this year...geforce 6800gt have been chosen

...hopefully it will last long though. technology is such a headache sometime.

18 months. That is how fast things have been doubling since the beging. With a 3 year life span. Gee that just sucks now that I see it in writing.

William of Orange · Mar 27, 2005, 04:19 PM // 16:19

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....&ref=10&loc=01

The price has been chopped to $59.99, with an additional $20 rebate makes it $39.99. The card is better than the recommended card for the game, so do you think it'd be a decent card to buy just based on the price? It seems like a fairly good card, especially if it's only $40.

Edit: Ehh, but it needs an AGP interface, and last I knew my motherboard has a PCI interface...

Loviatar · Mar 27, 2005, 04:46 PM // 16:46

mosr recent motherboards (last 5 years or more and newer) have pci and an AGP SLOT

look in at the mb and see if there are 4-5 places to insert a card of one color and a different colored one offset maybe an inch from the others (4 in a row and 1 maybe an inch higher)

it is a 40 dollar card and in this case you WILL get only what you pay for

note that it is also ONLY a 64 bit pipeline while the others are 128 and 256 bit pipelines

CHOKE POINT for data transfer