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Loviatar · Apr 10, 2005, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by Lansing Kai Don

Sorry I was referring to his case. Your absolutely right about DDR. Although, when you say you were using 400Mhz RAM at the rated speed w/o using Dual Channel how?

Basically, can you be more elaborate, in the beginning you say using it in Dual channel mode will NOT allow it to reach an actjual clock of 333, it will still be 166. Then you say taht before you got another stick of 400Mhz RAM you was using a single stick at the rated speed of 400MHz?

Let me specify my impression on how DDR works.

Your FSB speed should only be 200Mhz (as mine is), I was under the impression that using both edges of the clock cycle to r/w data is where they come up with the 166/200 as it is, Dual channel is just the ability to r/w from two sticks in parallel(essientially doubling the bandwidth, i.e. 333/400Mhz). I may be wrong in this (and it is a dumbed down version), but lord I hope not.

Lansing Kai Don

you are right as i should have inserted the word effective speed instead of what i put

now if i use completely water proof my entire motherboard and stick it in the freezer with all due gasketing and the best ram possible i might have a chance at 400 real (or fry trying)

i am not sure on the actual mechanics of the dual channel

i do know i hate the mb manufacturer who gives you 3 slots and doe not tell you which the 2 sticks have to go into and neither does the site help give anything more than it is advisable but not necessary to start with slot 3

Lansing Kai Don · Apr 10, 2005, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

you are right as i should have inserted the word effective speed instead of what i put

now if i use completely water proof my entire motherboard and stick it in the freezer with all due gasketing and the best ram possible i might have a chance at 400 real (or fry trying)

i am not sure on the actual mechanics of the dual channel

i do know i hate the mb manufacturer who gives you 3 slots and doe not tell you which the 2 sticks have to go into and neither does the site help give anything more than it is advisable but not necessary to start with slot 3

Yes, it's a marketing thing (you don't really get what is shown, that's in almost everything). My biggest beef is with hard drives, 40GB hard drive does NOT mean 40,000MB, then 40,000,000KB, then 40,000,000,000 bytes. It's 1024 not 1000, now stop lying. And I agree with you on the motherboard not specifying, luckily my A7N8X-E actually lets you use all three sticks in Dual Channel if you specify things right at least the motherboard told me I could, (otherwise I believe I can place them in any two slots on the motherboard).

Lansing Kai Don

P.S. It's actually much closer to 400Mhz than some of the other higher memory frequency bandwidths like 800Mhz. Marketing gimmicks rule everything, that's why noone becomes diligent in computers (they have to read enormous amount of material just to get a piece of the truth). It's the same for where I work at.

Brett Kuntz · Apr 10, 2005, 06:07 PM // 18:07

DRAM should be set to 166mhz both on the actuall mobo (via jumper) and in the bios. ATM your mobo is set to 133mhz which is resulting in the 1463mhz clock speed.

Loviatar · Apr 10, 2005, 06:21 PM // 18:21

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Originally Posted by kunt0r

DRAM should be set to 166mhz both on the actuall mobo (via jumper) and in the bios. ATM your mobo is set to 133mhz which is resulting in the 1463mhz clock speed.

unless you are lucky enough to have a jumperless motherboard

what is better?

to have control of everything by jumper on the MB along with the chance of getting one wrong (especially those tiny dip switches)

or the joy of jumperless freedom with a chance of the bios setting things wrong for you

DarkWasp · Apr 11, 2005, 12:59 AM // 00:59

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Originally Posted by Lansing Kai Don

Are you using the Heatsink/Fan that came with the retail package?

No i got my CPU OEM, i had to use my other heatsink.

Brett Kuntz · Apr 11, 2005, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

unless you are lucky enough to have a jumperless motherboard

what is better?

to have control of everything by jumper on the MB along with the chance of getting one wrong (especially those tiny dip switches)

or the joy of jumperless freedom with a chance of the bios setting things wrong for you

In my experience, all mobo's I've had had both, a 'hard' setting on the mobo for the max, and a changeable setting in the cmos. In a lot of cases the cmos wont go higher then what the hard setting is set to.