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Bezerker · Jun 09, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by Dirkiess

Read what your write before you print or you open yourself to more abuse.

As i said In My Opinion, simply because the ATI card i have runs better then my Nvidia, this does not mean ATI = Better then Nvidia. It just runs better in my Pc.

I did not compare them, if i would then prob my Nvidia card would win, but in this computer its a Blue-Screen creator

Dirkiess · Jun 09, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by Bezerker

As i said In My Opinion, simply because the ATI card i have runs better then my Nvidia, this does not mean ATI = Better then Nvidia. It just runs better in my Pc.

I did not compare them, if i would then prob my Nvidia card would win, but in this computer its a Blue-Screen creator

I knew what you meant, but you have to remember, people are quick to jump on the band wagon and start pointing fingers, and mine is better than yours etc etc, and before we know it, whole posts turn into slanging matches and the original posters question gets all forgotten about.

I was just pointing out, read what you write before you send, as people don't always read what you are thinking in how you say it. If you get my meaning.

Bezerker · Jun 09, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

I do, quite funny actually these kind of topics you find everywhere on the net

Just thought about it, what if ATI & Nvidia had a discussion about this? ROFL would be World War 3 :P

Dirkiess · Jun 09, 2005, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by Bezerker

I do, quite funny actually these kind of topics you find everywhere on the net

Just thought about it, what if ATI & Nvidia had a discussion about this? ROFL would be World War 3 :P

The really funny thing is, go with what you know as you can't change the opinion of someone else against there will, as everyone in there own mind is always right.

If you make a balls up in your decision, you can only blame yourself, but if someone else gives you there opinion and you take it and then hate it, you'll be cussing them.

seekg · Jun 09, 2005, 04:07 PM // 16:07

I use a E-VGA 6800GT 256 MB PCI-Express card

1600x1200 on all max settings

It works great, I am very happy.

Diplo · Jun 09, 2005, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia

Just curious, but you do know that's the "This week only" page, right?

And? It's for sale at that price which is what counts. I've seen them even cheaper. Most vendors are trying to get rid of their stock at the moment which is why they are currently so cheap and hence why I said you can get a bargain if you keep your eyes peeled.

(PS. I own a 6600GT myself so know full well what they are like. I just also realise that people on a tight budget could run GW on a 9800pro fine.)

Principa Discordia · Jun 09, 2005, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by Diplo

And? It's for sale at that price which is what counts. I've seen them even cheaper. Most vendors are trying to get rid of their stock at the moment which is why they are currently so cheap and hence why I said you can get a bargain if you keep your eyes peeled.

(PS. I own a 6600GT myself so know full well what they are like. I just also realise that people on a tight budget could run GW on a 9800pro fine.)

And? It's for this week only. That means that it's only so cheap on that site and only for this week. Come sunday it'll be back to £93 and then we'll talk.

Maybe I should start some dishonest debating too, and start comparing the prices of second-hand cards!

As for tight budgets, you're still missing the 9600. The 9600, particularly the XT, is the #1 best budget graphics card, hands down. The 9800 is too close to the price of a 6600GT, and too lesser in performance, to call it in the slightest bit value. It was king once, not anymore.

The_difference · Jun 09, 2005, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Last week I just got a BFG 6800GT O.C. and that pretty much should exlain everything.

Tyil Thunder Arrow · Jun 09, 2005, 04:40 PM // 16:40

*put's gun to own head*
"Alright let's play nice or the geek gets it."

"I DON'T THINK HE'S JOKING!"

MaglorD · Jun 10, 2005, 03:13 AM // 03:13

[QUOTE=Tyil Thunder Arrow][quote]Originally Posted by Seron
ATI x800xl - retail for $300
asus 6600gt oc - $200

is the ati x800xl worth the extra $100?
and will it work on the asus a8n delux SLI motherboard? this is gonna be my first time making a comp, heh.

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don't you think that the x800xl should be compared with the 6800 gt around $300. since they are in the same price range

Yes, the X800XL is to be compared with the 6800GT. The 6600GT is not in the same league as the X800XL. Just do a seach for reviews with benchmarks and you will see. Don't take my word or anyone's here. Check it out for yourself.

The ATI equivalent for the 6600GT is probably a plain X800. The X800XL gives similar performance to a 6800GT but is cheaper.

Principa Discordia · Jun 10, 2005, 06:11 AM // 06:11

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Originally Posted by MaglorD

The ATI equivalent for the 6600GT is probably a plain X800. The X800XL gives similar performance to a 6800GT but is cheaper.

Wrong, the ATI equivalent to the 6600GT is the X700Pro. That is flat out, hands down, fact. Sorry.

Anyone who compares a 6600GT to an X800 is either mistaken or making excuses for the crap performance of X700 models (or great performance of 6600 models). I sincerely hope you're simply one of the mistaken ones.

cannonfodder · Jun 10, 2005, 07:40 AM // 07:40

I say shoot the geek, hehehe (Cue, gunshot, Tyil Thunder Arrow is no more

)

Listen guys hardly anyone has answered the original question, the guy probably wished ne never asked now....

My opinion and most of the poster's on this thread say "save you cash, get the 6600gt....", its cheaper and it'll last a while yet...

Principa Discordia · Jun 10, 2005, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Amen, brother cannonfodder. It'll last until the new Nvidia Geforce7 series and ATI equivalents drop in price, it's a logical money-saving option.

MaglorD · Jun 10, 2005, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia

Wrong, the ATI equivalent to the 6600GT is the X700Pro. That is flat out, hands down, fact. Sorry.

Anyone who compares a 6600GT to an X800 is either mistaken or making excuses for the crap performance of X700 models (or great performance of 6600 models). I sincerely hope you're simply one of the mistaken ones.

Depends. The 6600GT 128 MB generally costs more than the X700 128MB and 256MB models so obviously they should perform better. 6600GT comes in 128MB and 256MB models. The 256MB models are about the same price as the plain X800, so I don't see why they cannot be compared as such.

cannonfodder · Jun 10, 2005, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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Originally Posted by MaglorD

Depends. The 6600GT 128 MB generally costs more than the X700 128MB and 256MB models so obviously they should perform better. 6600GT comes in 128MB and 256MB models. The 256MB models are about the same price as the plain X800, so I don't see why they cannot be compared as such.

Oh dear, the debate goes on.................

MaglorD · Jun 10, 2005, 09:11 AM // 09:11

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Originally Posted by cannonfodder

Oh dear, the debate goes on.................

Doncha love debates

It's a wonderful way to exchange information.

Principa Discordia · Jun 10, 2005, 09:14 AM // 09:14

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Originally Posted by MaglorD

Depends. The 6600GT 128 MB generally costs more than the X700 128MB and 256MB models so obviously they should perform better. 6600GT comes in 128MB and 256MB models. The 256MB models are about the same price as the plain X800, so I don't see why they cannot be compared as such.

Firstly; I hope you did not just compare a 6600 GT to a vanilla X700. That's an incorrect comparison. The vanilla X700's Nvidia counterpart is the vanilla 6600, and the 6600 GT's ATI counterpart is the X700 Pro.

Secondly; Here in the UK, and elsewhere I presume, a 6600 GT 128mB does not cost more than an X700 Pro 256mB, and still performs better than it.

Thirdly and finally; Just because the 6600 GT performs as well as a vanilla X800 or 6800 does not mean they're comparable. They're entirely different tier-levels of graphics card.

If anything, all we can say about the X700 series is that it's a piece of crap. Period. In that pricerange the 6600 GT is purely unbeatable. The 6600 GT cannot be directly compared to an X800/6800 series graphics card, but it has proven itself more than capable of being a high-performance and low-cost alternative for any gamer.

MaglorD · Jun 10, 2005, 09:24 AM // 09:24

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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia

Firstly; I hope you did not just compare a 6600 GT to a vanilla X700. That's an incorrect comparison. The vanilla X700's Nvidia counterpart is the vanilla 6600, and the 6600 GT's ATI counterpart is the X700 Pro.

Secondly; Here in the UK, and elsewhere I presume, a 6600 GT 128mB does not cost more than an X700 Pro 256mB, and still performs better than it.

Thirdly and finally; Just because the 6600 GT performs as well as a vanilla X800 or 6800 does not mean they're comparable. They're entirely different tier-levels of graphics card.

If anything, all we can say about the X700 series is that it's a piece of crap. Period. In that pricerange the 6600 GT is purely unbeatable. The 6600 GT cannot be directly compared to an X800/6800 series graphics card, but it has proven itself more than capable of being a high-performance and low-cost alternative for any gamer.

I got the prices from www.pricewatch.com.

Tier does not matter, price does. If they are comparable in price, they can be compared. And the X800 Pci Express is in the same price range as the 6600GT 256 MB Pci Express for instance.

I agree X700 Pro or no is certainly not as good as the 6600GT but it is cheaper than the 6600GT even if only a small amount. I wouldn't recommend it over the 6600GT of course.

cannonfodder · Jun 10, 2005, 10:00 AM // 10:00

Group hug guys

The debate will go on forever, some love ATI others love NVIDIA, me personally I coudln't care less, just as long as it does what it say's on the tin, I've had in the past ATI and Nvidia, now have to Nvida cards and an ATI one, they kind of all do the same thing....let me play games well...

Edit - it all boils down to, what you can afford and whats readily available

Principa Discordia · Jun 10, 2005, 11:37 AM // 11:37

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Originally Posted by MaglorD

Tier does not matter, price does. If they are comparable in price, they can be compared. And the X800 Pci Express is in the same price range as the 6600GT 256 MB Pci Express for instance.

And who said anything about the 256mB 6600GT? The 128mB 6600GT is on-par with the X800 and 6800 seeing as you're so fond of comparing cross-tier cards, so why even bring up the 256mB model?

Oh yeah, because people like to suggest the one with less value for money.