Curse

glockjs · Jul 14, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

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Originally Posted by MadeInChina

It's not dramatic at all. A computer with an age of 5 years will decrease by 2 to 3 years. And for computers lasting over 10 years..that's if the user can keep it protected from viruses/spyware and the average person would not be able to do that so well.

And the average age of computers depends also on the manufacturer because many manufacturers develop poorly-constructed computers.

still dramatic. and dont buy a dell

lord_shar · Jul 14, 2005, 02:59 AM // 02:59

OC'ing is fine so long as you have adequate extra-cooling and don't go nuts with the settings. Just be ready to kiss the hardware warranty goodbye if you do so.

Algren Cole · Jul 14, 2005, 03:32 AM // 03:32

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Originally Posted by lord_shar

OC'ing is fine so long as you have adequate extra-cooling and don't go nuts with the settings. Just be ready to kiss the hardware warranty goodbye if you do so.

don't tell people OC'ing is fine...because it's not. It's EXTREMELY strenuous on your hardware. It can be done effectively and you can push some extra power out of your system...but it's by no means "fine"..

Just make sure you are buying OCers hardware. i.e. DFI Motherboard(BEST) Asus Motherboards(pretty good) or MSI MOtherboards(OK)....video cards BFG is where you want to go...YES they come pre-clocked....but they OC even more....Gainward cards are good OCers...Make sure you are getting XMS RAM or the equivelant...Corsair...Crucial...Samsung. NOT KINGSTON. Kingston RAM does NOT OC well....

Just read into what you are doing...and don't try to get too much...in the long run it'll cost you more to replace the system. A couple years back I had an AMD 1600+ AGOIA(OCers Core) running at 2.4ghz..I think they run at like 1.2 or 1.3 stock FSB....the chip was hauling ass....but it only lasted 6 months...So be careful with what you are doing and read as much as you can.

and I must stress again...incase you missed it. Don't OC that sparkle card....sparkle cards don't like extra heat at all.

lord_shar · Jul 14, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

don't tell people OC'ing is fine...because it's not. It's EXTREMELY strenuous on your hardware. It can be done effectively and you can push some extra power out of your system...but it's by no means "fine"..

Please re-read my original post, especially the part about "adequate extra-cooling and don't go nuts with the settings." My P4-2.5 OC'd to 2.75 has been running rock solid for over 3 years. However, it uses an Asus MB and a heat-piped CoolerMaster copper sink.

CPU's/GPU's/memory don't have any moving internal parts to wear out, so the only thing that can damage them is heat. The problem with overclocking is that it messes up component stability unless you increase voltage, which in turn increases heat. Safe overclocks can be done provided that you don't go beyond 10%-15% recommended factory specs. BFG Tech overclocks their Nvidia video cards out of the factory and still covers them with a lifetime warranty.

My point is that if someone chooses to overclock, they had better do their homework first. Overclocking doesn't have to put a strain on PC components if done in moderation.

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

Just make sure you are buying OCers hardware. i.e. DFI Motherboard(BEST) Asus Motherboards(pretty good) or MSI MOtherboards(OK)....video cards BFG is where you want to go...YES they come pre-clocked....but they OC even more....Gainward cards are good OCers...Make sure you are getting XMS RAM or the equivelant...Corsair...Crucial...Samsung. NOT KINGSTON. Kingston RAM does NOT OC well....

Just read into what you are doing...and don't try to get too much...in the long run it'll cost you more to replace the system. A couple years back I had an AMD 1600+ AGOIA(OCers Core) running at 2.4ghz..I think they run at like 1.2 or 1.3 stock FSB....the chip was hauling ass....but it only lasted 6 months...So be careful with what you are doing and read as much as you can.

and I must stress again...incase you missed it. Don't OC that sparkle card....sparkle cards don't like extra heat at all.

I agree with the rest of your post.

Quality hardware can OC safely, so choose your components well.

glockjs · Jul 14, 2005, 10:46 PM // 22:46

asus in my experience do not like to OC very well :/ abit or dfi yes thank you

of course components are going to fry if you crank them all the way up. but like lord pointed out there's nothing wrong with a moderate overclock. i think a big prob with half the people that OC have no clue what the word stability means :/