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Josh · Jun 30, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

Overheating due to the graphics in GW is the only thing I can see happen, but it would fry the CPU not the motherboard.

Mm, no..it wouldn't...

Anything fried in your Case can chain-react to fry other things.

Vecte · Jun 30, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by quanzong

If you dont know how to fix computers, or no one you know, knows how to fix them, I would hire a computer technician to do it so they can put a new power supply it, because adding power supplies in the wrong way can be VERY EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

....it is virtually impossible for anyone to screw up on a power supply install. the way they are made now-a-days makes it idiot proof. it also only takes two seconds to look inside your computer, see how the psu is already installed, and put the new one in. i had never put one in before, and i installed mine in about 5 minutes. don't waste your money on a tech, unless for some reason you feel you just cannot do it.

lord_shar · Jun 30, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52

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Originally Posted by Vecte

....it is virtually impossible for anyone to screw up on a power supply install. the way they are made now-a-days makes it idiot proof. it also only takes two seconds to look inside your computer, see how the psu is already installed, and put the new one in. i had never put one in before, and i installed mine in about 5 minutes. don't waste your money on a tech, unless for some reason you feel you just cannot do it.

Older PSU connectors had 2 multi-pin leads -- all you had to do was connect them with the black wires facing each other at the center. Modern ATX PSU's have a single connector with a retaining clip and keyed holes to make sure you can't connect it the wrong way. There's also usually a separate 4-pin molex connector that attaches to another spot on the motherboard, at least on some of the P4 MB's I've worked with. Just have your system board manual (or google) available for reference if you're not certain where things go.

Meols Green · Jun 30, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by Vecte

....it is virtually impossible for anyone to screw up on a power supply install. the way they are made now-a-days makes it idiot proof. it also only takes two seconds to look inside your computer, see how the psu is already installed, and put the new one in. i had never put one in before, and i installed mine in about 5 minutes. don't waste your money on a tech, unless for some reason you feel you just cannot do it.

Quoted for truth.

Power supplys are failsafe..

c'ept for one thing.. if theres a voltage switch on the back (usualy red) DONT flick it.. this will cause it to become a dead unit (dont it once..)

Just look inside your computer at how everything is connected now... draw a diagram of whats where if you dont know your molars from each others..

Also make sure you get the right one (ATX/AT/BabyAT etc)

Anyways

A virus would in no way make your motherboard fry... (also, a power supply that is a high voltage supply wouldnt either, just incase people said / were thinking it, the computer only takes what it needs)

Most likely cause for a fry is overclocking without enough cooling (done that too.. hole on motherboard from cpu lol), or raising voltages..

But like many have said, The only way guild wars would cause a fry is if you have NO cooling in your computer and its working its arse off... and thats not even a possibility because theres always cooling in the psu / graphics card (now-a-days), and ALWAYS on the cpu.

Gaile Gray · Jul 01, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

Allright. First of all, my computer has gotten its motherboard fried twice, and sent into hp for repaires. My dad is convinced it is from a vrius from guild wars. My antivirus was up-to-date, and i have heard you cant get a virus from mmo's. To put my dad to rest, i want knowlegable people to say that you are sure you cant. when i have enough responses i want to show this thread to my dad and put him to rest. Please just say one thing- you cant get a virus from guild wars. please no idiots, profanity, or other random stuff.

Hand on heart: You can't get a virus from Guild Wars. I work for ArenaNet and I am absolutely sure of this. If your father has concerns about this, please ask him to write to Support via the official website. (I agree, the problems described are not at all virus sounding to me, either.)

Anyway, to go on: As regrettable as it is to say this, you can get a virus from using third-party programs.

So let's make this clear:
The game cannot give you a virus.
Unofficial programs, no matter what they are called -- bots, hacks, exploit program, even such a friend term as "utility" -- can and often do contain viruses. There are some good utilities out there, but darned if you can be sure which are good and which have that "added ingredient" of a virus, trojan, or other nasty thing.

Moral of the story: Play Guild Wars with complete peace of mind. Don't download any programs outside of Guild Wars that claim to be, or even are, related to Guild Wars. If it doesn't come from ArenaNet, we cannot support it, cannot vouch for it, and cannot provide support if it causes any problems.

Vecte · Jul 01, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Hand on heart: You can't get a virus from Guild Wars. I work for ArenaNet and I am absolutely sure of this. If your father has concerns about this, please ask him to write to Support via the official website. (I agree, the problems described are not at all virus sounding to me, either.)

Anyway, to go on: As regrettable as it is to say this, you can get a virus from using third-party programs.

So let's make this clear:
The game cannot give you a virus.
Unofficial programs, no matter what they are called -- bots, hacks, exploit program, even such a friend term as "utility" -- can and often do contain viruses. There are some good utilities out there, but darned if you can be sure which are good and which have that "added ingredient" of a virus, trojan, or other nasty thing.

Moral of the story: Play Guild Wars with complete peace of mind. Don't download any programs outside of Guild Wars that claim to be, or even are, related to Guild Wars. If it doesn't come from ArenaNet, we cannot support it, cannot vouch for it, and cannot provide support if it causes any problems.

/cheer
/clap

chaale · Jul 01, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

GW will not send you viruses.

Most times, when you have an AV and you get infected even if it's up to date, it is because the virus treat hasn't been done yet buy your AV provider. When it happens, most viruses can hide themselves within the computer files and blocks your AV from finding them.

What I suggest is: have a good reputated AV as Trend Micro PC Cillin' or such. Most free AV are not good at all and I've had many problems with the most known company like Norton and McAfee (also big memory leechers). Also schedule many scans per week on your AV. It will simply launch the scans all by it self and only bug you if it finds something wrong on your computer.

Use Spybot S&D and Ad-Aware frequently to scan your computer and to clean it of malwares. A registry cleaner can also improve greatly your computer's performances.

Use your AV firewall (disable Windows SP2 firewall if so. AV firewalls are normally much better than Win ones). Make sure the configuration is all set right.

Get a good router and use the firewall that is incorporated in it. If you know nothing about networking, call someone who knows how to configure your home network and also router settings. Some are very hard to configure and they have not good readme or troubleshoot documentation.

Finally, if you do not have any popups, script, etc. blockers provided by your AV, Windows, etc. I know the one from google.com works greatly and avoid using P2P programs, surfing on hack/serial/warez sites and also downloading programs or anything you're not sure the content is safe.

Keep in mind that computer security is not only a question of Firewalls or AV, but also the way you will use your computer. Most of time, you are responsible of any malware installed on your computer.

Regards,
Chaale

B§x¿44¶»1@$ · Jul 01, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Saying Guild Wars would give you a virus is the same thing as saying the AOL Corporation uses its clients to give you a virus. If they did, they'd be seriously screwed, and although AOL is crap- it still wouldn't be possible.

Its next to impossible for a 3rd party to get ahold of the packets being sent between ANet+your home compy while they are being sent. Its like catching a bullet in the middle of the air, and then with your fist changing the caliber of it, and then letting it go without anyone noticing.

Ghozer · Jul 01, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

a virus cant fry a mobo period.

GW is a closed system and is kept virus free so look elsewhere

thats where your wrong, there are SEVERAL (and theyer still coming out) Viruses that clutch onto your motherboards CMOS (that stores the BIOS info) - and infects the CMOS, they can also corrupt the CMOS data if you attempt to remove them, hence rendering your motherboard totally un-useable...

Meols Green · Jul 02, 2006, 12:04 AM // 00:04

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Originally Posted by Ghozer

thats where your wrong, there are SEVERAL (and theyer still coming out) Viruses that clutch onto your motherboards CMOS (that stores the BIOS info) - and infects the CMOS, they can also corrupt the CMOS data if you attempt to remove them, hence rendering your motherboard totally un-useable...

Pop out the CMOS battery and put it back in? Usualy resets the whole mobo bios system

milan · Jul 02, 2006, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Hardcat, please stop that. Hacking your account, keep in mind it's not really hacking, it's generally password theft does not give anyone access to your pc, if you download supposed 'cheat' progs then it's a good way to get your account stolen.

Secondly in a district with a hacker? Go back to spamming boards and stop trying to panic people.

Across The Battle · Jul 02, 2006, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by MelechRic

If your system is experiencing issues then you should do the following:

1. Run a reputable virus checker and verify you're not infected.
2. Run a reputable spy-ware/ad-ware remover and follow it's recommendations.
3. Clean the inside of your system. Get some dust-off and blow out all the fans, heatsinks, ports etc. (Do this outside of course.) Remove any fan filters and wash them thoroughly.
4. Remove all cheats/hacks for games like GW. You realize they are full of malware right?
5. Remove all "free" screensavers, download accelerators and other utilities. Most are harmless, some are malware and others just clog your registry.
6. If your motherboard supports it then download and install a temperature monitor software. (Usually modern motherboards ship with their own version of this.) When you play a high CPU demand game like GW check and see if your CPU's core and case temperatures climb dramatically. If so then you need better internal cooling for your case and probably a heatsink upgrade.
7. Check your memory with a utility like Memtest86. Bad memory can cause system instability and hard crashes. What appears to be a mobo problem can often be a bad memory module that prevents booting.

If you don't find any of these problems then you may want to do a clean install of Windows.

Thats the best advice Ive seen, although only reading up to that post will do that to me.

There is no way for you to get a virus from Guild Wars itself.

Helll is for Heroes · Jul 02, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44

You wont be able to get viruses from Guild Wars.

To get a virus from Guild Wars, the server will have to be hacked so that they can edit the packets that the Guild Wars server sends to you. The chances of that, are very slim to impossible.

Its probably some other things, such as browsing suspect websites.